Sadaam Captured Alive

[Canyarion]

I was wondering, with what do they compare his DNA? They have a bank of all villain's DNA or something?
I'm happy that they caught a bad guy... but I'm not happy for Bush. Sorry...

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

I was wondering, with what do they compare his DNA?

Me too.

[Blackmane]

Yay, they finally got him....


...or one of his hundreds of doubles.

[thatmariolover]

Yeah. I mean, I'm excited and appreciative of what was done in Iraq. To me though, our presence in Iraq is really starting to parallel what happened in Vietnam. Many of our troops are getting picked off like flies; and while I really think that the goal was good, I think that there are a lot of soldiers over there that really don't appreciate the way things are being done, and I really can't blame them. It's a great accomplishment, no doubt about it. But for some reason, it just feels like something much bigger is about to begin.

At any rate, yay. I guess I've never felt any surge of patriotism (call me un-American if you like). At any rate, I'm not going to argue the politics of it. Everybody's got an opinion. I respect what was done, and I think that's all I'm going to be responsible for in terms of this.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

I was wondering, with what do they compare his DNA? They have a bank of all villain's DNA or something?
I'm happy that they caught a bad guy... but I'm not happy for Bush. Sorry...

They have some type of sample of his DNA. I forget what it is from though...

And Jonbo, you did state the obvious there, can't blame gekko for saying that. Your beloved far left Howard Dean would do the same. He might explode before that though.

Originally Posted by Dark-Samurai

NICE!!!!

anyway for sure bush is going to use this in his next campaign

but i think we all know that america will not vote for him

(well at least i wont)

remember he KILLS any economy that he touches i.e. U.s. and iraq (i think)

Rev. Al Sharpton for Prez 2004!!!

You think he kills any economy that he touches? OK...

If you have looked at the market lately it is doing quite well and it will do even better with Saddam captured.

[Jason1]

Its good that we finally got him, but im not going any further than that. Most of you know where I stand.

[GameMaster]

This is big, joyous news.

We should have a virtual party.

[bobcat]

*passes round the virtual scotch shots*

mmm virually satisfying

[Dark Samurai]

Wow, we have a ****ing political expert on our hands, amazing (i think). Maybe you should try research before you try to act like you actually know what you're talking about (i think).

Hey maybe i did. and guess what? its right here

http://query.nytimes.com/search/arti...5AC0A9679C8B63

go ahead and read it. and guess who was pres. then? and now?

You think he kills any economy that he touches? OK...

If you have looked at the market lately it is doing quite well and it will do even better with Saddam captured.

Yes you are right. the u.s. economy is going up because of the capture but the iraqi economy is not. take a look at this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3181248.stm

and this was just about 2 months ago

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Dark-Samurai

Hey maybe i did. and guess what? its right here

http://query.nytimes.com/search/arti...5AC0A9679C8B63

go ahead and read it. and guess who was pres. then? and now?



Yes you are right. the u.s. economy is going up because of the capture but the iraqi economy is not. take a look at this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3181248.stm

and this was just about 2 months ago

Here we go again...

I'm not even going to bother to register at the NY Times website. But I can assure you they are one of the most liberal newspapers in the country.

And for Iraq's economy, months after taking over a country you can't exactly expect them to have a booming economy. Iraq will have a booming economy in a few years though, just wait.

Democracy + Iraq's Resources = Lots of Money

[Dylflon]

I think it's stupid that America is saying that Canada can't help rebuild Iraq.

The Iraqis should be more important than contracts.

I remember hearing from my dad that last month some representative from the Middle East formally requested for Canada to rebuild Iraq. Not their buildings. Their country. That made me proud to be a Canadian.

[Professor S]

Ok, let me address a couple of ideas expressed here:

1) The US Economy - Its back up over 10,000 and all signs point to it being even better after Christmas. Also, if you know ANYTHING about the economy, you know that it was the inflated tech stocks and corporate scandals that killed it. All of the damage was done during Clinton's presidency. Bush has had to deal with someone else's screw up. The unemployment rate is starting to go down as well (finally).

2) DNA - There are any number of ways that you can get someone's DNA. A tooth brush, comb, coins, clothes, etc.

3) The Iraq Economy - As was mentioned, its a rebiulding nation that is trying to establish a democracy amid constant attacks by terrorists. Not exactly the environment that breeds confidence in the Dinar from foreign investors. It also doesn't help that our good friends the French, Russians and Germans still refuse to forgive the enormous debt that was accrued under Saddam.

4) Canadians and Others not Getting Contracts - It ain't the UN thats paying for this... its the Coalitions (mainly American too). So you should get OUR MONEY when you're government opposed the action to begin with? I believe the contracts should go to those who have stood by and bled with us in Iraq. Just call me crazy. The fact that you would even expect to get any large contracts from this is insulting and unbelieveably ignorant.

Besides, its all much ado about nothing. Canada, France Germany and Russia will still get contracts, they will just have to be sub-contracted by those who are in the coalition. Get over it.

5) Saddam's Capture - Great news, but I would have preferred they did him like his sons: Kill him and then send out pictures for confirmation. My worry is that if we try him in a court of law it will only serve to give him a soap box before he is found guilty and killed, or worse yet cause un-needed terrorist attacks or hostage situations. Anyway you shake it he's going to die, and everything else is just for show.

6) Iraq Another Vietnam - Oh do shut up. That statement just screams "I'm an idiot. Don't pay attention to me." The only similarity is that guerilla warfare is being employed. THATS IT. Believing that Iraq is another Vietnam is the same as saying the war is "blood for oil" or "conservatives are rascist/evil/baby rapists". It just frees you from the burden of having to think.

I'm very interested to see how the Democratic presidential candidates respond to this news. I think it will be pretty interesting (especially from Dean who has been so vehement in his opposition)

As for the election? If the economy continues to improve and Saddam's capture proves to be as much of a boon to the chances for success in Iraq as I believe it will be, Dean and company can pretty much pack it up. In the end I think that it will come down to how the turnover of Iraq to the native people will go. If it goes poorly, Bush is in trouble. If it goes well, he's sticking around.

But who knows? There's still a long time to come before the next election.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

4) Canadians and Others not Getting Contracts - It ain't the UN thats paying for this... its the Coalitions (mainly American too). So you should get OUR MONEY when you're government opposed the action to begin with? I believe the contracts should go to those who have stood by and bled with us in Iraq. Just call me crazy. The fact that you would even expect to get any large contracts from this is insulting and unbelieveably ignorant.

Besides, its all much ado about nothing. Canada, France Germany and Russia will still get contracts, they will just have to be sub-contracted by those who are in the coalition. Get over it.

We don't give a **** about contracts. We're more interested in helping Iraqis. That may be hard for you to understand but that's our take on things. People before profit. Sure there are some crooked politicians here too. But most Canadians would agree with me in saying that helping the people of Iraq is more important than making any sort of personal gain in the deal.

When, discussing politics, you don't look from other people's points of view. You just shoot what others believe down and insult them. That really makes you look like a prick. Try being just the tiniest bit polite.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

We don't give a **** about contracts. We're more interested in helping Iraqis. That may be hard for you to understand but that's our take on things. People before profit. Sure there are some crooked politicians here too. But most Canadians would agree with me in saying that helping the people of Iraq is more important than making any sort of personal gain in the deal.

When, discussing politics, you don't look from other people's points of view. You just shoot what others believe down and insult them. That really makes you look like a prick. Try being just the tiniest bit polite.

I believe Strangler made the point quite clear and simple. It is the United State's money and the United States can do what they want with their own money. It is only logical to not allow any countries that did not support the war to be able to profit from the rebuilding of that country. You also have to consider France and Germany were racking in billons of dollars from Saddam... illegally I might add. You may find it unfair to exclude Canada from bidding, but then it would be unfair to only allow one country that did not support the war to bid.

And a lot of times it is not about shooting people's points of view down, it's about shooting down their misinformed ideas.

[Dylflon]

Granted, but others may think you're misinformed.

*flees*