Remembrance Day.

Vampyr · 11-10-2003, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OWA

I knew that, but they didn't know what side effects it gave to people rather than blowing them to bits.

Maybe not, but it got us a victory, and thats all that matters.

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Originally Posted by SlyMoogle

It may have gotten us victory, but it was on the horizon already. We didn't need to drop those bombs. Victory in Japan was almost ours and instead we drop bombs and kill around 150,000. Not to mention all of those who died from radiation later, or all the problems the radiation caused for the next 45 years. Nuclear weapons should never be used. How horrid.

Oh and the pilot who flew and dropped the bombs went crazy a few weeks after. You would too.

Thats war. You have casualities, thats what its all about. And I support nuclear weapons, as long as we're the ones using them. And I think we went to easy on the Japanese, we should have went for Tokyo. They got off lucky, we could have done a lot more.

When your in a war, or in any fight for that matter, you dont slap the other guy and walk away. You beat his freaking brains out until he's bleeding out of every hole in his body and he doesnt have enough strength left to blink. Thats how you win and keep a victory. If you just slap them until they're down, it will just leave them angry and pissed at you, and they will come back. You have to show the bastards that if they even look at you the wrong way, you'll kill them. That the next time they even imagine attacking you, that you'll make their little archipilago non-existant.

The guy who went crazy...he wasnt a very good soldier. I would go crazy, but Im not claiming to be a soldier, now am I?

PureEvil · 11-10-2003, 07:53 PM

I think it's fairly clear that the nukes were a retaliation for what the Japanese did at Pearl Harbour. The US probably could have finished the whole thing off with just regular forces, but the nukes did a good job of that, and did so without costing the US military any more lives. Moreover, they acted as sort of saying "This is what happens when you f*ck with us" for the 'States, which is always a nice way of assuring you won't be victim to too much more aggression.

Same with 9-11. As I'm sure you've noticed, the 'States went somewhat buck wild and started attacking everything they could think of that had anything to do with the attacks against them.

The United States is a powerful country and wants the world to know that, and so acts against them (especially on their own soil) are completely untolerated, and it seems they will always be returned with fierce vengeance.

The nuclear bombs in Japan probably weren't completely necessary, but they served their function, put a finite end to the war, and boosted the military standing of the United States in the eyes of the world.

Welcome to politics.

Crono · 11-10-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

When your in a war, or in any fight for that matter, you dont slap the other guy and walk away. You beat his freaking brains out until he's bleeding out of every hole in his body and he doesnt have enough strength left to blink. Thats how you win and keep a victory. If you just slap them until they're down, it will just leave them angry and pissed at you, and they will come back. You have to show the bastards that if they even look at you the wrong way, you'll kill them. That the next time they even imagine attacking you, that you'll make their little archipilago non-existant.

It's too bad that the Entente didn't realize that. But nooo... France had to get revenge on Germany. Stupid Versailles. WWII wouldn't have happened (well, in Europe anyway) if they had realized that.

TheSlyMoogle · 11-10-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

The guy who went crazy...he wasnt a very good soldier. I would go crazy, but Im not claiming to be a soldier, now am I?

How can you say that? Most of these people were drafted. I'm sure he probably wasn't because he was a pilot, but seeing what that did, knowing you caused all that death. Yeah that would make anyone insane. How could you think that someone is a good or bad soldier because they go insane after they killed 70000 people instantly. Instantly! I can't believe some of the things our country would do. It's atrocious.

Rndm_Perfection · 11-10-2003, 09:34 PM

I'd have to agree with the Moogle on that point. One man can only have so many balls...

Err, that is... you can talk all you want and feel immortal, but when it comes down to it, killing 100K+ civilians will drive you mad. A soldier is not supposed to kill civilians, and any sane human is not supposed to kill anywhere near that number, whether liscenced to do so or not. Millions returned home from wars with nightmares. Are you saying none of them are good soldiers, Vampyr?

Show a little respect, please. I know what honor and duty-bound fearlessness makes a soldier in Animé, samurai teachings, or on paper... but in reality, killing is so much different.