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Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers
Old 11-06-2003, 08:15 AM   #1
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I hated hated hated hated hated hated hated hated hatd=ed hated hated hated hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Yes, the incredible special effects and the battle at the docks was great, but other than that it was total garbage, and I mean TOTAL garbage.

How even the Wachowski brothers could watch this movie and feel it was worth putting in theaters blows my mind. It is self-important melodrama in its most ugly form. And the worst part is you get the idea that the brothers actually think that they are making an important film with some sort of meaning while you watch this crap. You want examples? See below:





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1) Trinity Dies - Her death scene is so drawn out and tedious that someone screamed "JUST DIE ALREADY!" in the movie theater and whole theater CLAPPED when she finally died. I mean, we knew nothing about her character, so why should we care?

2) Neo is blinded and scarred, Trinity asks if he is ok, and he says YES... He was just BLINDED and MAULED, but he's just peachy I guess, and then he cracks a joke about Trinity having to drive. This drew some groans from the audience as well.

3) Keanu Reeves - His performance reminded me of an oak tree in the back yard. This man is completely incapable of showing any kind of emotion and yet he is a huge star in Hollywood. Amazing.

4) Nonsense masking as meaning - The Wachowski brothers have become so full of their own s**t that they think that all the tired, overblown crap that they have the Architect and The Oracle spew is actually some of of cryptic geniuos. Its not. Its babbling to make it sound that way. Also, the Oracles whole "when you know it you'll know it" lines got old during the first movie.


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This is one of the worst movies I've seen in a very long time. Please do not encourage Hollywood to spend their money on this absolute crap and DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.
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Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers
Old 11-06-2003, 09:11 AM   #2
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Default Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers

After thinking about it more, I've drawn a new conclusion about the series...




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It is near perfection.

It started as a traditional sci-fi series, introducing new ideas, new effects, and an excellent cast of characters. As it progressed, the end became foggy, and many questions arose. However, in the end, a certain purpose to the series is reveiled, eliminating questions. I think one reason why so many people hate the final film, is because it proved that they didn't know jack **** as to what was going to happen... that is, they didn't foresee it, it's out of expectation compared to their conclusions drawn from the original "feel" of the movie.

The movie is religion. That is, every part of the film has a purpose, it is based on some form of religion. Neo being most likely Jesus, the messiah.

Err, I gotta jet, school... talk more about this later O_o.
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Old 11-06-2003, 10:45 AM   #3
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Default Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers

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The movie is religion. That is, every part of the film has a purpose, it is based on some form of religion. Neo being most likely Jesus, the messiah.

Err, I gotta jet, school... talk more about this later O_o.
After the first movie, I was almost thinking the same thing, along with that same old crap about computers controlling us.
I haven't seen any sequels because I thought the first was so crappy, but you may have a point with Neo being the Messiah.
Neo gets betrayed by one of his guys, like a Judas Iscariot, he's supposed to be a savior, in the first movie he has to be 'reborn' (baptism or being born again), Zion is such an important city. Plus I hear there's the Mark III No. 11 written on their ship. It says, "Whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell down before him and said, 'You are the son of God!'"

I could probably say more if I saw the latter films...
I hear there's also some Buddhist stuff, but I dunno..................
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Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers
Old 11-06-2003, 11:57 AM   #4
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The Wachowski brothers were never subtle about using Neo as a Chirst figure. That was obvious from the first movie. Just because they beat you over the head with metaphor does not make this a good movie series.

Also saying that people did not like it simply because they didn't know what was going to happen is silly. A good movie SHOULDN'T let you know what was going to happen. I didn't like the movie because after the second installment I no longer CARED what was going to happen, for the following reason:

1) Poor character development. We're told that Neo and Trinity love one another, yet there was about as much heat between them as there is in the center of a snowball. Also, what do we even know about Trinity?

2) Poor acting. Keanu Reeves is completely incapable of showing any kind of emotion. Thank God for Hugo Weaving's wonderfully over the top Agent Smith. He carries Keanu to s few tolerable scenes.

3) Horrendous Dialogue. Too many examples to show here. A main reason for the poor character devlopment. It was all plot with no story, and there is a difference.

4) Redundancy - They LOVE columns in rooms, and love blowing them up even more. It got old in the first one.

and the biigest flaw...

5) Pseudo Intellectualism. I found the exposition to be more tedious than enlightening. This was an excercise the Wachowski brother's intellectual ego's, and not actually intellectual.

The plot was good, but the execution of that plot was beyond bad.
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:20 PM   #5
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the movie and the series for that matter is FAR FAR FAR from perfection.
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:05 PM   #6
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Can someone explain to me why the hell all the smiths exploded? other than that i though the movie was good, except for it started a bit slow.
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Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers
Old 11-06-2003, 09:13 PM   #7
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when he took over neo's body, which was connected to the machines, the machines rewrote/deleted his program, and all the humans were unplugged, but the machines survived (a.k.a. the oracle, seraph, and the girl)
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Re: I saw the matrix-spoilers
Old 11-06-2003, 09:15 PM   #8
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You people just don't get it. (except The Game and Random)

I loved it. I loved reloaded. And I loved The Matrix

The whole is perfect like random said. I couldn't give a **** what you people think.

Go watch Charlie's Angels or something.
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