Mafia Round 3 – The Tide of Fate Turns - Page 3

jeepnut · 06-16-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrist

That's what we've been saying for 2 rounds now.

As I posted in the previous round, I don't think Dylflon is the guy to play it open. He's one to play it smart. Smart and mean.

!vote Dylflon

Also:

Seriously, if you were Mafia and you knew the special role of somebody, could you resist the temptation of killing him? Would you want him seering people every round, while you waited for the mob to turn on him sooner or later?

In his defense, if he were mafia, why would he reveal his role in the first round? But hey, it's his job to defend himself, not mine.

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

Bube · 06-16-2009, 07:33 AM

This is probably the best game of Mafia I've played. It all started so fast

I have my suspicions. I've got my eye on all of you!

And yes, Dyl looks bad right now, but it may have been played out like we said last round. Keep that in mind.

I want to see how far this goes - the not voting Dyl and him not getting killed thing

Angrist · 06-16-2009, 08:20 AM

Hm now I'm starting to doubt. We can always kill off Dylflon later, it's not like he's the last mafia.

But if he's right, we're killing off the Seer.

Does anyone feel like coming up with alternative theories and targets?

Bube · 06-16-2009, 09:18 AM

I agree with you Angrist. I'm going to go with the BaB theory this turn, but I've got a few other ideas as well. I'll see how this round turns out, and reveal a different theory on the next one. For now, !vote BaB

Fyacin · 06-16-2009, 09:35 AM

There is really no reason to vote Dylf, even if he is mafia. I mean, if he is mafia, then he has a few cohorts and killing him now will only make us feel better. However, if he's not, we should leave him alive beacuse he might just be our seer.
Break A Bone sounds suspicious.
!vote break a bone

BreakABone · 06-16-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

How am I leading the voting effort?
I haven't even voted yet?

Vampyr · 06-16-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

Wait a minute, what? They don't know who the people with special powers are...the idea that they didn't kill the seer in order to kill the guardian doesn't make any sense.

!retract Dylflon for now

Vampyr · 06-16-2009, 10:10 AM

After pondering for a few seconds, I have decided Jeepnut is trying to protect Dylflon with weird theories.

!vote Dylflon

jeepnut · 06-16-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr

Wait a minute, what? They don't know who the people with special powers are...the idea that they didn't kill the seer in order to kill the guardian doesn't make any sense.

!retract Dylflon for now

I never said that.

I said that they didn't kill Dylflon because he had publically asked the Guardian to protect him and thus knew that an attack on Dylflon would likely be a waste.

I doubt they knew who the guardian was unless they had someone in contact with him. My assumption is that killing the guardian was a lucky guess.

Vampyr · 06-16-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut

I never said that.

I said that they didn't kill Dylflon because he had publically asked the Guardian to protect him and thus knew that an attack on Dylflon would likely be a waste.

I doubt they knew who the guardian was unless they had someone in contact with him. My assumption is that killing the guardian was a lucky guess.

Plausible, but the seer is a pretty useless power anyway since we can't trust anything he says (especially now). We've already got one Mafia, we could kill Dylflon this time and BaB next if we are wrong.

The Germanator · 06-16-2009, 10:48 AM

!retract Dylflon

!vote BreakaBone

The right way to go, I think this is.

Nighthawk · 06-16-2009, 11:00 AM

this thing is getting pretty confusing...

BreakABone · 06-16-2009, 12:12 PM

I understand why Jeepnut doesn't trust me, but I don't get the rest of you.

Anyhow here's the story with Jeepnut as far as I could figure, I was speaking with him during round 1 because you always want to make friends or whatever. And I suggested it would make sense to vote for dylflon because the move was so out of the blue, he had to be messing with us.

But by the time I cast my vote, there was already a 3-4 vote island between manasecret and Dylflon. So I figured it made no sense to fight the tide.

And I can see how Jeepnut would feel wishy washy about that, my thing is
1) http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...3&postcount=84
The vote switch was made at the VERY last minute, and I don't see why it was needed as it wouldn't swing the victory one way or another.

And when I asked him about it, he got defensive and has yet to answer me.

Day 2:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...1&postcount=57
He was right about Combine, but the fact that he didn't feel there was some coordinated attack, probably even including some Mafia baffles me when Ric/Combine ended up with the same number of votes.

Day 3:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...7&postcount=31
And now the current day, which he votes for me because I am leading the votes even though I have yet to vote for anyone.
And actually won't vote for Dylflon unless it comes down to me and him, for the simple fact that I believe he is the Seer, and I have a 3rd party who agrees with us. He has promised us results that I hope bear fruit tomorrow.
And for someone who blames other for leading votes, I would like to point out that pretty much every vote has followed his lead since posting this.

My thoughts, I feel that Jeepnut screwed up round 1 with me, and is just looking for a way to amend his damage before I can get any associates for a rallying vote.

That's my case anyhow.

BlueFire · 06-16-2009, 12:22 PM

For the BaB vote, I need to see some evidence or reasoning before casting my vote for him right now. True, I voted for him last round, but as I read the posts this round, I'm finding the sudden collective movement to eliminate BaB very suspicious (especially due to the lack of actual reasoning).

Originally, I was going to vote for Angrist since he seems so convinced that Dylflon should be killed off this round (and I'm almost sure if we vote him, we're going to kick ourselves in the ass).

But then I saw jeepnut starting the BaB movement:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

Your theory sounds convincing, but nothing has led me to believe that BaB is evil. Not even Ric's rallying last round. I declare that BaB defends himself here and now before we go ahead and lose another valuable member to the mafia.

But before I end this post, I'm going to cast the vote for "the one leading this voting effort:"

!vote jeepnut

EDIT: BaB just posted his defense.. reading it now
EDIT 2: My vote stays.. for now.

thatmariolover · 06-16-2009, 01:02 PM

I'm also going to hold off on the Dylflon train. If we're going to burn for trusting him, we may as well go all the way. At least until trust can be established.

!retract Dylflon

I have to review all of the posts and I will vote again once I'm sure I haven't missed anything obvious.