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Old 11-16-2003, 03:09 PM   #1
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Im just wondering who you guys think is the greatest conqueror to ever in the history of the world.

Im going to have to say Genghis Kahn, leader of the Mongols. This guy was just plain ruthless, and conquered virtually all of the known world. (Being Eastern Asia...). I firmly believe that the Mongolian Empire was one of the strongest Empires to ever exist. Im not making a poll, so you guys can pick whoever you want, but here are some suggestions:

Hitler
Napoleon (another one of my favorite)
Atilla the Hun
Hornando de Cortes
Juan Ponce de Leon
Alexander the Great
Hannibal of Carthage
Julius Ceaser
Peter the Great

And the list could go on...

So, who do you people think is the greatest of them all, and please back it up with reasons.
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Old 11-16-2003, 03:26 PM   #2
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I tend to lean toward Hitler in this instance.

The way he took broke little Germany and turned it into a power biding for control of the world was nothing short of absolutely amazing.

That's not to say Hitler was cool or anything -- he was obviously a bad person, but huge level of conquest he pulled off starting from something so worthless was awsome.

In a... Strategically-take-over-the-world kinda way.

I'd also like to shout out to my homies Kahn and Caesar. They did some pretty amazing stuff too. Hitler still takes the cake in my eyes, though.

Conquest rules.

(And even today we still see endless thwarts of conquest, it's just been translated into business. Look at Microsoft, for example.)
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Old 11-16-2003, 04:17 PM   #3
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Hannibal... he was a genius.
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Old 11-16-2003, 05:15 PM   #4
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Hitler doesn't cut it just for the fact that he only held his conquered lands for a very short time and completely mismanaged the domestic part of his empire.

My vote is for Alexander the Great. He conquered so much and incorparated those that he conquered into his culture. Just look at all the cities name Alexandria around the world. No one could conquer him and it took an assassin to kill him to end his empire.
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:06 PM   #5
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Alexander got too greedy when creating his empire. He captured almost all of the known world and still wanted more. crazy if you asked me.
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:17 PM   #6
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Yes, but crazy is often necessary to be productive...

Napolean actually had less land after power than before... hmmm I still have to think about who I think is the greatest... possibly Alexander the Great... but not sure..
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Old 11-16-2003, 10:03 PM   #7
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My vote is for Alexander the Great. He conquered so much and incorparated those that he conquered into his culture. Just look at all the cities name Alexandria around the world. No one could conquer him and it took an assassin to kill him to end his empire.


Alexander was killed by malaria, not an assasin....

Anyway...

I'd have to go with Alexander, as well. Just...because....


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Old 11-16-2003, 10:55 PM   #8
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I had thought he was poisoned. I'll have to go check it out. Goota love the internet...

EDIT: Checked it out, and yes Alexander was sick, but there are also accounts that he may have been poisoned by his physician or an attendant of his. So I guess we're both right since the only people who really know are dead.
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:00 AM   #9
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I have never heard of any good intentions from Hitler.
His good intentions was to get Germany back on her feet. After the Treaty of Versailles was signed, Germany was in a TERRIBLE situation. They had hardly no military, and they were like 60 billion dollars in debt.

He promised to make Germany powerful again. And he did.
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Old 11-17-2003, 03:38 PM   #10
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Hitler was also stupid when it came to certain subjects. He rarely listened to his miltary advisors (read: Dunkirk and Stalingrad), which costed him big time as the war went on. Although, he did turn a poor Germany into a powerful war machine, which, like people said, was pretty amazing. I don't know much of the Mongol Empire, all I know is that they conquered Russia and much of Asia.

Two weeks or so ago, I watched a great show about Hannibal on the history channel, and he seemed pretty damn amazing to face up to the Roman Empire like that. He won battles even when the Romans had double the amount of troops.

I don't know who to pick though, there have been so many great conquerors...
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Old 11-17-2003, 05:17 PM   #11
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His good intentions was to get Germany back on her feet.
Well, yes, by unjustly using the Jews as a scapegoat.
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:06 PM   #12
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Hitler wanted to get Germany back on its feet, by eliminating what he thought was keeping Germnay down... an entire race of people.

Good intentions? Only in his demented mind.
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:06 PM   #13
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from what I've read, Julius Ceaser was tremendous. If he hadn't been killed, who would've known what he could have done.
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Old 11-17-2003, 08:08 PM   #14
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Hmmm. There are some great conquerors out there you guys arent mentioning.

Cant believe no has said Napoleon. That guy was the second anti-christ, and he was brilliant. We could very well be speaking French right now if his ego hadnt gotten so large and he tried to take Russia.

And the Spaniards arent getting any credit. They were extremely large at one point. They owned all of central america, mexico, and a lot of South America. Very impressive in my opinion. And Hornando de Cortest (Spanish) canquered some of the greatest Indian Empires of all time.


Atilla the Hun was cool too...until he drown on his own blood...from a nose bleed.
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Old 11-17-2003, 08:20 PM   #15
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The Spaniards did have a large empire, but they also picked their fights very carefully. Its very easy to conquer the Americas when you have guns and your enemies basically have sticks.

Lets not forget about America either. The entire country is an Empire that seceded and ther pushed all the way to the Pacific ocean.
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