Sony Motion Controller

[TheSlyMoogle]

http://gdc.gamespot.com/story/625320...ntroller-qanda

Watch the video. Honestly looks like what I wanted the wii to be.

I'm going to stand corrected. If it works as well as it did in the video, then looks like this could actually be fun.

[BreakABone]

I had Moogle sent me the information while out, and got all excited, and I get home and find it is literally the PS3's version of the Wii.

Just for some examples, here is the line-up of games

B-Roll Footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W00x0C7JbIs

The Shoot™ (Working Title)


Move Party (Working Title)


Motion Fighter (Working Title)


Sports Champions


TV SuperStars


Now the Motion Fighter game looks pretty cool, but the rest of it right now, just looks like experiences we had when the Wii launch. Now, I'm a huge fan of motion controllers, but this really isn't tapping any new grounds right now. Just doing it prettier.

And just because Sony is always one step ahead....





That said, I hear that the next SOCOM supports it so wonder how that works out

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

That said, I hear that the next SOCOM supports it so wonder how that works out

Looks a lot better than the wii, sorry earl.

DIE WII DIE!

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

Looks a lot better than the wii, sorry earl.

DIE WII DIE!

I said as much in my post. :P

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

*picture deleted*

Ahem. WTF is going on in this picture???

Originally Posted by Carnage17

also, anyone else think that light bulb on the top of the "main" Move controller just looks absolutely retarded?

Yeah I kind of agree, but at the same time they look kinda good... I think overall I approve of them. Much better than what it looked like before.

[Xantar]

It's an add-on peripheral. It will die (at least this time). Next?

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by Xantar

It's an add-on peripheral. It will die (at least this time). Next?

It might, depending on the cost.

But I think odds are there are enough kids who got the wii 3 years ago who are old enough now to use the internet, find out about this, and bug the hell out of their parents for a PS3 and Motion thing. Probably sony will release a PS3/Motion bundle.

"BUT MOM IT'S THE NEW WII!"

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

It might, depending on the cost.

But I think odds are there are enough kids who got the wii 3 years ago who are old enough now to use the internet, find out about this, and bug the hell out of their parents for a PS3 and Motion thing. Probably sony will release a PS3/Motion bundle.

"BUT MOM IT'S THE NEW WII!"

I'm sorry. I don't think I made myself clear enough about my reasons for being absolutely sure that this thing will fail. So here's a link to a blog post I wrote in which I examine in more detail the past history of consoles and take into account all the prior successes of add-on peripherals: http://www.purevideogames.net/blog/?p=292

If you have any actual responses to my point instead of vague guesses about a fraction of the gaming audience, do let me know.

[Typhoid]

I think this is a great idea.
Maybe it will force Nintendo to make an actual system next time instead of another gimmick which can be made as an add-on for the other systems.

Sony just literally gave a big "fuck you" to Nintendo with this, and I think it's hilarious.

Not only with a PS3 do you get a blu ray player, and a PS3 itself, you also get the option for a Wii, with better graphics.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I think this is a great idea.
Maybe it will force Nintendo to make an actual system next time instead of another gimmick which can be made as an add-on for the other systems.

Sony just literally gave a big "fuck you" to Nintendo with this, and I think it's hilarious.

Not only with a PS3 do you get a blu ray player, and a PS3 itself, you also get the option for a Wii, with better graphics.

And worse games. Yeah, fuck you Nintendo! We don't need quality games, we got pretty lights and shiny things!

Originally Posted by Xantar

I'm sorry. I don't think I made myself clear enough about my reasons for being absolutely sure that this thing will fail. So here's a link to a blog post I wrote in which I examine in more detail the past history of consoles and take into account all the prior successes of add-on peripherals: http://www.purevideogames.net/blog/?p=292

If you have any actual responses to my point instead of vague guesses about a fraction of the gaming audience, do let me know.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Xantar

I'm sorry. I don't think I made myself clear enough about my reasons for being absolutely sure that this thing will fail. So here's a link to a blog post I wrote in which I examine in more detail the past history of consoles and take into account all the prior successes of add-on peripherals: http://www.purevideogames.net/blog/?p=292

If you have any actual responses to my point instead of vague guesses about a fraction of the gaming audience, do let me know.

It depends on if you consider it an add on, or a new type of controler.

I remember two generations ago, a certain company introduced the analog stick, and a certain other company adapted it late... and somehow it got popular enough with developers and users alike to the point that it became the "normal" controler.

Just saying..

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

It depends on if you consider it an add on, or a new type of controler.

I remember two generations ago, a certain company introduced the analog stick, and a certain other company adapted it late... and somehow it got popular enough with developers and users alike to the point that it became the "normal" controler.

Just saying..

This is slight revisionist history, the dual shock was popular, but really became the industry standard with the PS2 and not the PSX.

Very few games required its use on the PSX.

And this is an add-on, no if, ands or buts about it.
a)One it may take up to 3 controllers for you to play all Move games (some use two Move controllers, some use a Move and a subcontroller)
b)You need ANOTHER add-on to get it to work with the system (the PSEye)
c)Unlike the Dualshock, this is coming 4 years into the console lifespan
d) After showing their games, Sony doesn't look to be serious about it. I'm sure e3 will offer up more support, but right now looks like they are strandling the line between putting this as an option in their normal games, and that worked out so well for the SixAxis.
e)Price as a barrier to entry. Yes, if you want a full Wii-Mote these days it costs you 80 bucks, or if you are smart enough you can get two games, and a full controller for 120 bucks. The Move as stated before has 3 different setups so you need 3 controllers plus a camera, plus the console, and unlike the Wii none of that comes standard.

Will the Move fail? Probably not
Is it a threat to Nintendo? If these early games are any indiction, no.
People seem to think that Nintendo lucked out with all their games, but as Sony is showing and as 3rd parties have shown for the last 3 years, putting motion controls in a game is easy, balancing it so that it is both enjoyable and doesn't hinder the experience is tough.

[manasecret]

Oooh shiny.

[Carnage17]

i'm suprised it's coming out for $100 when the arguably technologically more advanced (at the very least more innovative/intriguing) Natal was rumored to go for $50, which is honestly the right price if you are trying to get it into as many current owners as possible

It's kind of funny to see Sony just so unabashedly rip off Wii, but on the flip side that speaks volumes for the success of Nintendo's huge risk when they went in the whole waggle direction. Who knows, maybe a more core-centric company like Sony will be able to promote more waggle games that are actually, you know, deep and worthwhile and use motion controller in legitimately engaging ways.

Still way more stoked to see the lid get blown off Natal at E3 though. Now that Move is ousted, can we start guessing the real name for Natal? I can't think of anything clever, I'll leave that up to you guys

[Carnage17]

also, anyone else think that light bulb on the top of the "main" Move controller just looks absolutely retarded?