[Teuthida]

Yes, I've read the comics. Closer doesn't always mean better...and wasn't even that close. Ra's Al Ghul had no part in the training of Batman. The two never met until Bats had Robin. And no Ubu? Pfft. Batman never had a fear of bats...he uses the symbol because criminals are a superstitious lot. And where is all the forensics training he is suppose to also have learned. Not rely on Fox to do all the dirty work. The only comics I have with Fox are the No Man Land ones and don't believe he ever has a clue.

I'm assuming by closer you're referring to Burton using Joker as a stand in for the murderer of Thomas and Martha Wayne. The Killing Joke came out a year before Burton's Batman was released. So at the time of the production of the movie Joker really didn't have a true past and thus was stuck into Batman's creation. And they were suppose to have been leaving a movie of Zorro, not some Opera. Zorro was a big influence on the costume of Batman. The best origin story is in Mask of the Phantasm. Bruce W. Timm really should of have a hand in the live-action movie.

Batman was no where near the detective he's suppose to have been which is also how Ra's Al Ghul always referred to him; "The Detective." Here he's just a real angry guy who screams a lot. Batman is suppose to have a cool and collected demeanor.

In the fall gonna have a prof. who worked on The Dark Knight Returns (which I really did care for either) with Frank Miller as well as a Batman editor. Wondering what their opinion is gonna be on this movie.

I hope the 2nd one is decent. Dunno if Nolan has it in him to really make Joker Joker.