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Bond 01-25-2008 04:38 PM

Fox News on Mass Effect Sex Debate
 


Wow... just wow.

Jason1 01-25-2008 04:45 PM

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mmmm...SexBox....

Debbie Does Dallas Luke Skywalker

Typical Conservative Religious bullshit from Fox news.

Professor S 01-25-2008 04:52 PM

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I was amazed at how insane the misinformation about Mass Effect is. The "sex" in the game is literally a naked upper back and a fade-out. An episode of 90210 has more skin than Mass Effect.

Goddamn uninformed retards.

Swan 01-25-2008 05:29 PM

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I hate these arguments. Sure a kid comes home alone and can pop in a game but whose saying he couldn't pop in a movie with sex in it as well?


Quite stupid

KillerGremlin 01-26-2008 01:42 AM

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Fox "News" has always had trouble with video games. Ironic that they would focus on sex this time, since they basically are a porn network.

Dylflon 01-26-2008 04:17 AM

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I'm actually fucking disgusted with the general public who are more worried about their kids seeing fake movie sex than they are with them seeing incredibly gratuitous fake violence.

I get people like that in my work all the time. Some woman complained that Shoot Em Up wasn't appropriate for her kid. I asked, "Because of everyone being killed?"

And she said "No, it had too much sex in it".

That just pisses me off.

At least sex in NATURAL for god sake. Murdering people is horrible yet parents are okay with their kids seeing it portrayed in movie constantly.

Can anybody explain this mentality to me?

Typhoid 01-26-2008 05:48 AM

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To be fair, killing is as natural as sex is. Give and take. It's unethical because of laws and such - but it's still a natural part of survival...at times.


But I agree with the whole "Yadda yadda, I don't want my kid seeing a fake tit, but he can watch people mangled on TV yadda blather" thing is wrong.

gekko 01-26-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 216458)
Can anybody explain this mentality to me?

Because if the kid goes to jail, parents owe nothing.

If kid gets pregnant, or ends up with AIDS, family is still around to support forever.

I'm betting the parents would rather the kid just get life I prison so they can move on with their life. :p

Actually... my real guess would be sex is a bigger issue for parents than murder. Most parents will never have to live with a child murdering someone, but many have to deal with sex's variety of problems.

Bond 01-26-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko (Post 216466)
Actually... my real guess would be sex is a bigger issue for parents than murder. Most parents will never have to live with a child murdering someone, but many have to deal with sex's variety of problems.

Bingo.

Dylflon 01-26-2008 04:01 PM

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It still seems like such a strange skew of values to me though.

KillerGremlin 01-26-2008 04:50 PM

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Dylflon, I highly recommend the Documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated."

It's a highly enjoyable film that looks at the way the MPAA rates films with sex and nudity. America is the strangest country in the world, we have problems with 3 major things: alcohol, sex and guns. I don't understand it.

Professor S 01-27-2008 02:07 PM

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My biggest frustration isn't that people are upset about nuduty and sex in video games, its people knowing what the fuck they are talking about. The whole "hot coffee" outrage was justified. This was hardcore pornography secretly hidden in a game to avoid an unfavorable rating. If I was a parent, and I thought my kid could handle the violence, I at least can look at the rating and make those decisions.

In Mass Effect's case, people are outraged at the report of sex being in a game and giving absolutely no context to it. In the descriptions that these "pundits" give of the sex scene, it becomes quite obvious they've never seen it and are knee jerk reacting to the mere association of sexuality in a game that it obviously intended for a mature audience on every level.

They should be publicly exposed for the ignorant opportunists they are.

Professor S 01-28-2008 12:39 PM

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HO-

LY

SHIT

http://kotaku.com/349423/jack-thomps...ds-mass-effect


Jack Thompson says that the Mass Effect controversy is completely manufactured and rediculous. He has no issues with the game...

My brain just melted...

manasecret 01-28-2008 01:40 PM

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Oh he's just mad that he's not the one that contrived the controversy this time.

thatmariolover 01-28-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret (Post 216500)
Oh he's just mad that he's not the one that contrived the controversy this time.

Quoted for truth.

Honestly, if this shows anything, it's that video game companies should be spending money to educate the press about the steps they take to protect youth.

BreakABone 01-28-2008 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 216458)
I'm actually fucking disgusted with the general public who are more worried about their kids seeing fake movie sex than they are with them seeing incredibly gratuitous fake violence.

I get people like that in my work all the time. Some woman complained that Shoot Em Up wasn't appropriate for her kid. I asked, "Because of everyone being killed?"

And she said "No, it had too much sex in it".

That just pisses me off.

At least sex in NATURAL for god sake. Murdering people is horrible yet parents are okay with their kids seeing it portrayed in movie constantly.

Can anybody explain this mentality to me?

Just curious how old was her kid?
I really only remember one or two sex scenes in that movie.

Anyhow the "Expert" has apologized for criticizing the game without ever playing it. This is what happens when the Nerd Herd mobolizes and destroys your amazon reviews. ;)

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165633

Fox 6 01-28-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 216502)
Just curious how old was her kid?
I really only remember one or two sex scenes in that movie.

Anyhow the "Expert" has apologized for criticizing the game without ever playing it. This is what happens when the Nerd Herd mobolizes and destroys your amazon reviews. ;)

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165633

Thats just plain funny. Dont mess with Tech savvy people!!!!!

Professor S 01-28-2008 04:04 PM

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It really is sad that this happened in the first place. This made NATIONAL NEWS and yet NO ONE...

NO ONE

Checked a single fact for these rediculous stories. Not even the "experts" that argued against Cooper and others seemed to have actually seen the sexual content in question!! I just don't understand the mentality of being outraged over rumor and second hand heresay when common sense dictates you will make yourself to look like a fool.

thatmariolover 01-28-2008 04:11 PM

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Well, and it's easy to blame Fox news. But truth is that it happens all the time. Members of the press are woefully ignorant about the video game industry as a whole.

Bottom line is, Fox needs to issue an apology.

KillerGremlin 01-29-2008 10:42 AM

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Cooper Lawrence apologized in an attempt to regain credibility...that's like Bush apologizing for not finding WMDs in Iraq. She's still lacks credibility and will always be known as the idiot that went on Fox and made up lies about games.

manasecret 01-29-2008 11:38 AM

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Wait... Bush apologized for that?

KillerGremlin 01-29-2008 03:22 PM

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Now that I think about it...I don't think he did. Oh well, I guess he has more integrity than Cooper Lawrence :p

manasecret 01-29-2008 03:28 PM

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Nah I think it takes more integrity to own up to your mistakes than to never admit you were wrong.


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