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Professor S 06-30-2004 04:10 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid
Strangler have you seen the movie?

Nope. Not yet anyways. I'm still trying to find a source that I can download in a codec I can use. I have read much of the transcript, though.

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Because im pretty sure i remember you saying you didn't, yet your saying things how Moore edited the congressmans response, first, if you havent seen it, how would you know. And second, if you have how would you know what his actual response was? Obviously they didnt show the response, so how do you know he didnt give just what he said.
I read the transcript. I watch the news. I follow current events.

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And let me ask you this Strangler, If you have 3 kids, would you send them willingly to war? I doubt it. If oyu have kids, the last thing you want to do is send them into war, yet you would have no remorse for sending anyone elses children to war, now would you?
I would not send them to war, as no parent actually sends their child to war, but I would not stop them from going. This is a country where we have the freedom of choice. If my children choose to go into the military, I would not stop them from going to Iraq. The military is not the boy scouts. Its not summer camp. The military is a public service where you know when you go in there is a chance you may see fighting and you may be killed. It always makes me laugh when people act surprised that military personnel are asked to fight in defense of our nation and other free peoples. Thats what they're there for.

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( You're probably in favour of the draft, arn't you?)
And no, I'm not for the draft unless absolutely 100% necessary. I don't believe this is one of those times and the only time I feel it was necessary was during WW2.

Professor S 06-30-2004 04:14 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
What do you think seriously has been going on that Moore needs people to change in the past 3 years? If he's a registered democrat in NY, that doesn't mean he has to vote democrat. Name something in NY or elsewhere in the past 3 years that needed Moore to go across country and spread his O P I N I O N. Absolutely NOTHING basically. This year's presidential election is something he will most likely vote. It's something major alot of people do. In the 3 and a half years between presidential elections, there isnt much else to vote for. There are local elections, but turnout to them is absurdly low anyways.

I'm not trying to say no one votes in between elections, its just that people don't care much about local elections.

Michael Moore is more than just the average person. He is an opinion maker and wields great influence in politics. He is opinions and actions need to coincide if he is to be taken seriously and he has a responsiblility to do as he tells you to do. Not doing so makes him a hypocrit.

You can't tell everyone to go out and change the world, and then only follow through on your own words when you feel like it.

Well thats my opinion, anyway. And for the record, I vote on every election.

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 07:37 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
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Originally Posted by Bond
Would you please demonstrate your magical ability to seperate facts and lies in the movie Fahrenheit 9/11?

Its called reading. I use the internet, google is a very good site.

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Originally Posted by The Strangler
That statement is utterly BRILLIANT:rolleyes:

yes good one, take one error in my post and use it against the rest of what I say, thats what I call Brilliant, hey why don't you make fun of the fact I capitalized brilliant and you can forget that you're a failure

I'm going to try and sum this up, if you argue against Micheal Moore for good reasons then I can respect that, if you argue against him for not citing Stupid White Men, I can respect that, If you argue against his movie you havn't seen your a moron. Watch the movie or start a new thread titled "Micheal Moore is a moron up until Farinheit 9/11"

Professor S 06-30-2004 07:47 PM

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Oh yes, I'm a failure because you know me so well considering you've been here about a week.:rolleyes:

Try again. This is fun.:D

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Its called reading. I use the internet, google is a very good site.
I agree. Then maybe you'd like to read any of the numerous sites I've posted on here about the subject. I found them all on Google too by just typing in "Michael Moore". You know, the ones that expose Moore as a liar and a hypocrit in basically every facet of his life.

If you'd like to compare sources, I'm more than up for it.

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
read what I added onto my last post regarding your stupidity, now as for your sources, I personally dwell on what is fact, unless it is someone like bush that clearly lies so much that there is no point in even bothering. If you want to read something that you know isn't going to be a lie, read Dude wheres my country, he cites everything in that book.

Right now I don't feel like browsing the web searching for sites that prove me right, because I think its very well summed up in Farinheit 9/11 as I said before watch it or start a new thread.

Professor S 06-30-2004 08:10 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Dear Zaglar Ninja

As for books, you should check out Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Guy by David T. Hardy. It basically takes apart pretty much all of Moore's worked, including Dude, Where's My Country that you seem to treat with such high esteem. I haven't gotten my copy yet, but I've been following the works of Hardy for a while now and he pretty much owns Moore.

Here's a source for you:
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

and another:
http://bowlingfortruth.com

and another:
http://www.moorelies.com

and another:
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20020403.html

and another:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

That one's by Christopher Hitchins, who is one of the more brilliant debunkers in the world, who has gone after Reagan, Clinton and even Mother Theresa (and made some really good points against her, suprisingly enough!).

and another:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/...l?id=110003233

That one's from the Wallstreet Journal

So lets see... I challenge you to a fact finding mission about Michael Moore, and you insult me, blame everything on Bush and then cite a book by the very person I'm asking you to fact check. Grasping at straws are we?

Thanks, its been fun, now say goodnight and let the big kids talk.

Love,
The Strangler

PS - XOXOXO

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 08:16 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
unlike you I plan to read those, but after a quick skim through I saw nothing about Dude wheres my country. Dude wheres the flaws in dude wheres my country?

the second link has some stuff about dude wheres my country but their facts against it are pointless, "the Bin Ladens apparently chartered their own plane. They did not get a "free trip" as Moore tells us" Since when is that the point? they had to pay for it but the point is that they get to fly where others cant

Professor S 06-30-2004 08:17 PM

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Remember the book I asked you to check out in my last post? Its in there. And I did actually read all of those sites, thanks. Why else would I have cited them? :retard:

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 08:24 PM

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I'm not talking about you not reading those sites, im talking about you not reading/watching anything you critisize

Jonbo298 06-30-2004 08:31 PM

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Strangler, this site is right up your alley
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/

can I expect a guest appearance of you in the movie?

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 08:39 PM

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ok I can't read any more of that stupidity, these sites should really piss you off strangler because they abundently "miss the point" Well then again you havnt seen or read most of his works so when they mention his lies, you don't seem to get it. They are making the fact that he has all these little lies that no one pays attention to, the fact is they havnt caught him on one big lie yet so the facts that people actually listen to and talk about are the real ones. Watch the movie and see if you can spot any big lies. Until then please get out of this thread.

why dont you just accept the fact that you don't really know anything about farinheit 9/11 no one is agreeing with you yet you still make all these comments about a movie you havnt seen

Typhoid 06-30-2004 08:53 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
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Originally Posted by Zaglar Ninja
yet you still make all these comments about a movie you havnt seen


Sorry, but i kinda have to agree with him.

You said it yourself, you havent seen the movie, so don't just cite things trying to save your case on Moore. Wait until you see the movie, then do it.

Dont back your case on a guy that debunked Mother Teresa, the woman was technically a saint, how can you debunk a friggin' saint?!?! What are the debunkings against a saint?

" One time...she drank wine.."

The fact is they can debunk Moore all they want, but Moore is also debunking Bush.

I can understand you wanting to stand up for your beliefs, but i just think its kind of sad that you cant just even agree with other people and their opinions.

Bond 06-30-2004 09:05 PM

Re: Fahrenheit 9/11
 
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Originally Posted by Zaglar Ninja
Its called reading. I use the internet, google is a very good site.

I asked you to demonstrate your magical ability, not talk about it.

Zaglar Ninja 06-30-2004 09:08 PM

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thats amazing but I dont really know how to show you how to read over the internet.

but if you can read this I think you can pass

Bond 06-30-2004 09:18 PM

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Since you are incapable of demonstrating your magical ability, could you please cite a website that has helped you filter Moore's facts from lies? And if you are incapable of doing that could you please list which of Moore's claims you have researched?


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