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Re: NFL 2011-2012

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 278952)

On a lighter note, it was a ton of fun to watch the Eagle's explosive offense during the 4th quarter. If they tighten up the offense and find some consistency they might just have the most destructive offense in the NFL.

The Bills also gave up a fuckton of offensive yards. Granted, they created a bunch of turnovers...I still think come crunch time the Bills are going to fall short.

The Packers are a force. That's a fact. I can't wait for the Packers vs. Lions offense showdown.

And it looks like all the Teboners will be blessed with the grace of the holy Tebow. Praise Tebow.

It's a blessing that you think so highly of the Eagles. We're having a tough time, especially after that Phillies loss. I agree with both the Bills and Eagles at the current time, but still...The Eagles really have to overcome a lot to even make the playoffs.

I think their main hope is that the NFC East is just terrible... It would take 9-2 for the Eagles to go 10-6, but if they could somehow sneak the division with a 9-7, maybe they have a chance.

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Yeah, I get the frustration. Believe me. Chicago has had to deal with the Cub's shit forever, and the Bears have an awful GM and coaching has been shitty for a long time now. Even when we saw proactive Lovie Smith and good defense, we had the sex cannon at QB. Remember good Rex, bad Rex? I try not to. Now we have a good[?] quarterback, but our defense is sagging, and Mike fucking Martz is deploying a pretty goofy offensive scheme. When Jay Cutler is like, "fuck this! I'd rather give the ball to the running back than throw it," you know something is messed up.

My point is the Eagles have some huuuuuge weapons. Dallas is choke-tastic. The Giants are pretty iffy. And I'm pretty sure the Redskins are the most volatile team in first place right now.

I've watched enough bits and pieces of Eagles games this season to think that it comes down to: better game management and not making dumb mistakes (like being offsides on defense during a 4th down).

I'm not familiar enough with the organization to say whether or not letting go of Andy Reid will improve the situation. You certainly can trace a lot of management issues back to the coach. But I can say that your team is flippin' stacked. You have an explosive offense, and the defense played pretty solid today.

Just my 2 cents. Wish you the best. I like the Eagles, I think they're my preferred NFC East team. I was always a McNabb fan.

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I think the NFC East will be very competitive into the last weeks of the season, especially with so many divisional games left to be played.

On an unrelated note -- GO BEARS!

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I really like the Bears, but it's cool to see the Lions doing well. I'm looking forward to a not-horrible Thanksgiving football game. :)

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Jesus Christ our offensive line is horrible. I feel sorry for Cutler.

Cutler not tough? Cutler not dedicated? Holy fuck I think he could be a top-10 Quarterback if he actually had a line. As a Bears fan, this is what I have been watching/putting up with all this season and all last season. I just am happy that we have a national audience to confirm that Cutler is actually tough, and that our O-Line is literally the worst thing I have ever seen in professional football.

I know the Bears are plagued with injuries, but that's not an excuse. Our second and third string players shouldn't suck so bad. Jerry Angelo, you are the worst GM ever; I have never seen such a stretch of poor draft choices. Lovie Smith, you suck too. What the fuck was that horrible game management during the first drive? What was with that horrible challenge? Where is your emotion, you emotionless bag of dicks.

It sucks watching our team come unhinged, especially when Cutler is a good QB and is likely going to peace out of Chicago and go win games somewhere else. It's going to be a long rebuilding process for Chicago. Bleh.

On a lighter note, congrats to the Lions. You still have some work to do, like finding a run game early on. But the Lions vs. Packers rivalry will be very exciting over the next 5-10 years. (and sorry, Bond, I know you wanted the Bears to win. The Packers aren't walking off as division champs without a fight :p ).

Edit: Forte too. In case you guys didn't know, the Bear's manager Jerry Angelo didn't want to negotiate contracts with Matt Forte. Just pay the guy, right? I hope that Forte and Cutler escape this crappy mess and go have successful careers because there is mad talent between the two. Greg Olsen is lucky he got out.

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To all you angry Eagle fans:

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That’ll about do it.

Blocking isn’t good enough, tackling isn’t good enough, and it’s too bad that both matter so much.

Lovie Smith’s defensive philosophy works, when the front four generates consistent, gap-shooting pressure, and the safeties execute professional discipline in the half-field splits.

And when Brian Urlacher isn’t old and slower. Bend-but-not-break looks an awful lot like bend-and-then-break, and it’s broken by better players. This was all fun, before the arrival of Aaron Rodgers, Calvin Johnson, and any number of talented guys that were drafted by divisional opponents and can expose the house of cards.

Jerry Angelo has wasted valuable draft picks on bad players, covering his rear end by spending big globs of money on free agents, most of whom were also bad. Julius Peppers is an amazing talent, but he doesn’t matter, really, now.

The Jay Cutler trade made all the sense in the world – it made even those of us jaded by the general malaise of Bearsness joyful as we could be – but it seems shot. His abilities for which they dealt are now needed to keep plays alive after porous protection and short-armed receiving efforts.

What’s the endgame? Where is this heading?

Mike Martz is in the final year of his contract, and his offense can barely get a play called. His pigheaded vision has made a swaggering gunslinger look skittish and fearful. Nobody seems to know what anybody is doing. Cutler’s great feet, natural athleticism and rifle arm are called upon only to keep things barely afloat, when they were acquired to put them over the top.

Frank Omiyale sucks. Never mind that he was targeted as a need signing on the first day of his free-agency, by Angelo and his pro-personnel people, apparently from an opium den.

Nobody else on the line can really block, either. We waste so much time arguing about playcalling and run/pass balance, when the Bears can neither pass-protect nor plow forward. That makes us as dumb as everyone we’re criticizing.

The roster is littered with undrafted college scrubs, overtalked and overpromoted to fill holes. A few more injuries and you’ll see how bad it looks when really awful players have to fill important roles in the most Darwinistic sport there is.

Devin Hester is the best return man of all time. He’s also an incompetent receiver.

Roy Williams followed the advice of Muhsin Muhammad, and came to Chicago to die. Get the urn.

Brandon Merriweather is some kind of football sociopath. There’s something wrong with him, but he was deemed worthy of a contract extension because Craig Steltz can’t play.

Two teams in the NFC North are better, and will be for a while. Any week-to-week hopes of lucky turnovers, advantages in the return game or missed field goals are for fools. That’s not how the game is played by real teams, anymore.

Angelo, Smith and the Bears are on the wrong side of history.

Bad drafts, bad signings, desperate trades and hamstrung, stubborn coaches have the Bears staring at a dark road.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/10/...ing-of-the-end

The Bears are officially the ass clowns of the NFC. The NFL. We are now sharing a canoe with the Seahawks and the Dolphins.

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I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think it might not be that the Bears are that bad, but that the Lions are actually that good.

Also, c'mon, the Vikings are way worse than the Bears on all levels (players and management).

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 278973)

I honestly think (based on last night's performance) that the Lions still have a ways to go. Their pass game? The Megatron? Yeah. That is gold right there. There defensive line is A+ too. Their run game? Consistent pass game? Early scoring? We will see.

I agree that the Bears have potential to be better. But they are 4 games out behind the Lions and the Packers. They aren't gonna win the North or the Wild Card. I'd like to see a paradigm shift in the management.

If Martz changes the offense (did you see how good Cutler did outside the pocket?!?!) we might win games. I can't imagine Martz will do that.

I'm gonna get a really good beer. A really good piece of pie. A really big bowl of pretzels. And enjoy the hell out of the Thanksgiving game. Lions vs. Packers. That is going to be epic. Let's hope both teams stay undefeated until then. :D

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WTF Canada. Explain this:

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 278987)

And enjoy the hell out of the Thanksgiving game. Lions vs. Packers. That is going to be epic. Let's hope both teams stay undefeated until then. :D

That game is shaping up to potentially be one of the best regular match-ups this season.

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 279022)

Wow.

From ESPN's NFC North blog by Kevin Seifert:

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DETROIT -- I've already referred to Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz as a "sideline madman" this season. So what do we call him now following his stunning (over)reaction after Sunday's 25-19 loss to the San Francisco 49ers?

You've probably seen the video by now. If not, you'll soon see jubilant 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh bounding to midfield for the traditional coaches' handshake. Harbaugh wound up and gave Schwartz an excited handshake, followed by a hard slap to the back with his left hand.

Schwartz immediately turned around with a perturbed look on his face, chased Harbaugh down and bumped his right shoulder into Harbaugh's left shoulder. Schwartz then chased Harbaugh about 40 yards downfield to the players' tunnel and made a number of attempts to charge into a quickly growing mass of players, coaches and staffers to get at Harbaugh. Order was eventually restored, but afterward Schwartz neither apologized nor backed off his reaction.

"I went to congratulate Coach Harbaugh and got shoved out of the way," Schwartz said. "And then I didn't expect an obscenity at that point, so it was a surprise to me at the end of the game."

Asked for further details, Schwartz said: "I'll just leave it right there. I'm sure it's on video."

I'm wondering whether Schwartz will feel the same way after seeing the video. "Shoved out of the way" is a bit of an exaggeration. The exchange looked as though one of the coaches was having a hard time accepting his team's first loss of the season.

Schwartz said "there's a protocol in this league," implying that Harbaugh violated some unwritten rule of postgame sportsmanship. It's rich, to say the least, that Schwartz would be offended after a season of his exuberant fist pumps, cursing at officials and taunting opposing players. Those instances were fun and representative of the Lions' newfound passion, but this one violated protocol? Hmmmm.

Harbaugh might have been exuberant, but nothing that I saw him do was unsportsmanlike. If he directed an obscenity to Schwartz, it wasn't clear on video. And even if he had, it wouldn't be beyond the realm of an NFL coach to maintain his composure in that situation rather than charge after his counterpart.

Take a look at the photograph accompanying this post. There is a difference between being passionate and acting like a lunatic. Let's just say Schwartz approached the latter.

For his part, Harbaugh took the blame for shaking Schwartz's hand too hard.

"That is totally on me," Harbaugh said. "I shook his hand too hard. I really went in, and it was a strong, kind of a slap-grab handshake."

But to be clear: No handshake and no obscenity could merit Schwartz’s reaction. Either there is more to this story or Schwartz needs to take a few (dozen) deep breaths next time. If he had an issue with Harbaugh, he should have settled it on the phone Monday morning. To use a phrase I’ve heard him say a few times: Good grief.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...roaches-lunacy

I agree 100%. Harbaugh is a dick, but you never win by continuing to escalate an unnecessary situation...

Anyway, the Vikings are terrible this year! Jeeeez. Because the Bears are not that great. Roy Williams had a spurt of a good game. Devin Hester dropped some more passes. Robbie Gould kicked more field goals that should have been touchdowns. Cutler escaped one or two near-sacks. Matt Forte still hasn't worked out a contract agreement with Jerry Angelo. The Bears may have won, but the Vikings are clearly in bad shape. The Bear's house of cards is going to fall apart come crunch time.

Also sexy Rexy threw 4 INTs. Hahaha. Who didn't see that coming...

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Wow, there is a lot of hate out there for Tim Tebow.

Poor god fearin' guy.

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 279129)

Wow, there is a lot of hate out there for Tim Tebow.

Poor god fearin' guy.

Tebow annoys me. You know why? Because all I have been hearing about for the past 2 weeks is Tebow. On ESPN's The Blitz they asked why someone would not want Tebow to succeed. My response: so we can stop hearing about Tebow on the Blitz.

Otherwise, I wish Tebow the best.