Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Would you take a look at his wife?



I sure wouldn't mind conquering that on top of the Oval Office desk!

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

I love how when Obama introduced him, he said, "here's the next President of the... I mean, Vice President of the United States!"

Writing is on the wall?

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Biden is what, 65 now? In a hypothetical sense, he'll be 73 if Obama manages to serve a full 8 years. That's bordering on too damn old to run a country.

Biden in general, while a decent pick, Obama could have done better. Obama wants to "change" the way politics are, then he goes and chooses someone who has been in for 30+ years not advocating any kind of change.

I still have lost all faith in the political system and I hope at some point the american public realizes this, and finds someone non-democrat/republican to run the white house and see how it goes.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

This is bad news for Obama:

"Sixty-six percent of Clinton supporters -- registered Democrats who want Clinton as the nominee -- are now backing Obama. That's down from 75 percent in the end of June. Twenty-seven percent of them now say they'll support McCain, up from 16 percent in late June."

That number should be going up, not down.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

With how media is handling the whole election, and how the older and younger people I know are reacting to it... I honestly can say this is the most clear cut election I've been old enough to care about. I think Obama will win hands down unless he makes some huge mistake.

And he didn't take Dave Chapelle's advice and get a mexican vice president as life insurance, but he sure did get a guy who I feel will grow to be hated soon enough. lol

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Funny that you say that, since according to all the experts, the people who care about politics in the race leading up to the election is a very small percentage of actual voters.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Doesn't change my vote. I guess the whole point of the VP choice from either party is to sway the voters still on the fence.

If that's the case, then according to the polls now, it doesn't look like Biden was a good choice for Obama. But there's still time left. Maybe some Clinton supporters are especially bitter now that Clinton is officially off the list and there's no "maybe..." anymore to hope for. And maybe after some time that bitterness will wear off and they will warm up to Biden.

Or not. Political forecasting seems like such a complete crapshoot.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Oh yes of course, Biden is an embarassment, nevermind Mcains absolutley rediculous adds attacking Obama...when you start to put Britney Spears and Paris Hilton in your campaign ads...

but of course the Democrats are doomed, because the Republicans OBVIOUSLY know how to run a country well, just look at the past 8 years...

and of course we cant elect Obama, because he dosent have enough experience (like the experienced people who led our country into the shithole its in now)

Oh, and as soon as Obama is elected the country will be totally unsafe to live in and terrorists will run free.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

The whole hillary vs Obama thing did bring out a record number of voters, but yes you're right, any way its sliced what we see now isn't the whole picture. Outside of state things, for actual presedent elections I've seen... which were bush vs gore and bush vs kerry, both times people were generally mixed on their opinions. I knew a lot of supporters for all of the above from the begining to the end (though the bush ones are real quiet these days).

Right now I hardly see anyone openly supporting Mccain. Maybe its just me though.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Look at Ronald Reagan's speech from 1964. He was right then, and he's right now:

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Ronald Regan is the most overrated president ever. He went to college in the hick-born again christian town of Eureka, IL which is about 8 miles from where I live...they act like its a big deal Regan went there or someting. In any event the college is really lame.

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Uh oh

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

What in the world are you talking about? We're discussing Biden's VP pick and you start reiterating MoveOn.org talking points. I'm starting to think you don't really support anyone, but instead simply run on hatred of Republicans.

As for the polls slipping for Obama, I think that has less to do with Biden's pick, and more to do with the Faith Forum they both participated in and each candidates response to Russia invading Georgia. Both of those were solid political wins for McCain after months of being dominated by Obama.

I still think Obama will win by a slim margin, but that margin is getting slimmer and slimmer. McCain came off much more decisive and leader-like in the forum, and it will interesting to see if that continues in the debates. Then there is also the "fear of being a racist" polling skew that has always existed for elections with black candidates. A certain percentage of voters who polled Obama will likely vote McCain, only polling Obama as not to appear racist.

In any event, I've already taken Nov. 2-5 off and will have a lot of popcorn and beer on hand for the show :D

Re: Obama Chooses Joe Biden as VP
 

I guess people just love it when we go to war with anyone. It boggles my mind how they don't see that the cost of war is astronomical and while there seems to be a "post-war" boom in the economy, the crap that is dealt with here in all areas is worse along the way. War should be a last resort, not the first option.

Unfortunately, we're so hopped up in "helping" the world spread "democracy", that we fail to care enough about the home issues. Hence why corporations are slowly running the US, because we're too damn busy "helping" other countries when they just have to learn to fix their own problems once in awhile.

If Hillary wants to get her supporters to stop supporting McCain, she needs to get frank and blunt with them on stage (I think its either tonight or tomorrow). Something along the lines of "What the fuck are you thinking?" but in slightly nicer words :D

Obama could've picked better overall then Biden, but we'll see how it pans out in November. He just doesn't have the appeal to alot there yet unless he can prove himself better over time.