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Perfect Stu 05-11-2006 10:01 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
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Originally Posted by Dyne
The PS2 is almost extraneous in this situation, disregarding brand loyalty and games. If MGS4 moves to 360 like Microsoft is heavily pointing to right now, and the price does not drop, this could very well be bad news.


good news for GameTavern, though :)

Jonbo298 05-11-2006 11:01 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
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Originally Posted by Null
jonbo... thoes arent measured in the same way... the #X is just the speed at which the disc is spinning. DVD's take in a lot more data in 1 spin then a CD can... so it doesnt need to spin as fast as a CD. thats like saying a 16X DVD is way way slower then a 56X CD. its just totally different.

granted a 2x does sound slow, but bluray reads much much faster. so the disc doesnt need to spin as fast and the system doesnt need to work to keep it spinning at that speed. it helps everything. i think a 2x bluray is pretty much equal to a 16xDVD. i had read something on it being faster.

now no doubt they'll prolly make a 4x Bluray drive eventually... but i dont see it going that much higher. wouldnt do it any good to spin that fast.
Yes and I do know that the read rates are higher with Bluray because its a larger format.

I'm not that idioitic to not realize that a 2x cd-rom drive doesnt read at the same speed as a 2x dvd drive.

Canyarion 05-12-2006 04:35 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
I think Sony had expected Bluray fully up and running at this time, but development took longer. So they had a problem: they already promised Bluray so they didn't want to take it out.....
They had to solve it by giving people a Bluray player for an idiotic price.

manasecret 05-12-2006 05:24 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
I don't understand why anyone wants either one of the new movie formats. The switch from analog to digital was what was so nice about DVDs. Spending $600-$1000 and $30 for each movie for somewhat better visuals (if you have the right TV)? Who cares?

To me, even if all of the companies had decided on one standard and their wasn't a looming format war, I still don't think anyone would care. I think this new format is useless and a huge waste of money. My opinion of course.

BlueFire 05-12-2006 09:13 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
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Originally Posted by manasecret
I don't understand why anyone wants either one of the new movie formats. The switch from analog to digital was what was so nice about DVDs. Spending $600-$1000 and $30 for each movie for somewhat better visuals (if you have the right TV)? Who cares?

To me, even if all of the companies had decided on one standard and their wasn't a looming format war, I still don't think anyone would care. I think this new format is useless and a huge waste of money. My opinion of course.
I agree. :-o

Null 05-12-2006 09:47 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
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Originally Posted by manasecret
I don't understand why anyone wants either one of the new movie formats. The switch from analog to digital was what was so nice about DVDs. Spending $600-$1000 and $30 for each movie for somewhat better visuals (if you have the right TV)? Who cares?

To me, even if all of the companies had decided on one standard and their wasn't a looming format war, I still don't think anyone would care. I think this new format is useless and a huge waste of money. My opinion of course.

i agree to a certain point. But these arent 'somewhat better visuals' the difference with a true 1080p picture is huge. i mean it looks NICE.


but i dont care at all if they're $30 each. as i said in another post, if both hddvd, and bluray are going to cost that, then screw em both. i wont even pay a full normal price for current dvd's. ($20) i'll either buy em right away at $15 or wait till they're $10

Dyne 05-12-2006 02:07 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
Wait, has anyone considered the cost of Bluray PS3 games?

If DVDs are going to be $30 instead of $20, how much are games going to be?

Would they be $60/$70 or what.

Null 05-12-2006 02:12 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
i'd highly doubt it, games are already marked up a lot more then dvd movies. seems like Xbox360 has tried marking some games up to 60, and it doesnt look like its catching on.

marking the games up in price would hurt sony a lot more then an expensive system price. Howver that said, i also dont think we'll be seeing games at 39.99 anymore like sony was trying to do with ps2 games.

Dyne 05-12-2006 02:16 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
If you think about it, GAMES is where they're going to be making their money. If $600 is cutting back for them, and then they go and release $49 games, they're going to need fantastic sales to turn a profit.

But I can see them trying to hold out until the big-name games come.

Null 05-12-2006 02:45 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
its no different then gen then any other, they always lose money on the consoles. they are turning a very big profit on games.
when i say hurting sony for raising game prices i dont mean money wise, i mean it would hurt them in the console war.

Perfect Stu 05-12-2006 03:56 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
PS3 game prices will most likely be US$59.99...that's just speculation on my part but I would bet it's either that or very close to it

manasecret 05-12-2006 04:00 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
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Originally Posted by Null
i agree to a certain point. But these arent 'somewhat better visuals' the difference with a true 1080p picture is huge. i mean it looks NICE.
It's really that big of a difference, huh? Well, I guess if I had an HDTV (especially a big one) I'd definitely be excited about the new format. Even if they were $30 I'd just start it slow, get a couple high-action movies to show it off. Now I see why people want this.

Canyarion 05-12-2006 05:59 PM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
Lucky bastards, games are €60 here, that's around $70. Or maybe more? :(

GameMaster 05-13-2006 02:09 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
I think games can never be more than $50

Dyne 05-13-2006 03:28 AM
Re: Microsoft sides with Nintendo in fight vs Sony
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
I think games can never be more than $50
But they were for N64.


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