More incompetance from the Bush Admin

[Kitana85]

We now know they knew about it, knew they were there, and for all the work they have been doing, did nothing to guard it at all...

NYtimes Article (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/international/middleeast/25bomb.html?hp&ex=1098763200&en=fd35fdf4b6d46d61&ei=5094&partner=homepage)

[Bond]

A negative article about President Bush from the New York Times? Never!

[Jonbo298]

I read about the missing explosives and it's concerning because if looters sell these explosives to insurgents, its gonna be one helluva day if/when they are used.

Hopefully the US can find them because if not and they are used and demolish buildings in Baghdad, there is no way in hell the Government will live it down nor will the American people. Many questions will be asked that day but the gov't won't know what to say. They will probably just give the excuse of "Well, we tried but its not our fault they got stolen and used". Wait..it looks like Iran used it, lets go to war with them now. That sounds good. Let's divert our attention away from Iraq now.

[Crash]

A negative article about President Bush from the New York Times? Never!


lol...

i hate the liberal media... may they rot

[Kitana85]

wait.... ur calling the NY Times LIBERAL... what a hoot.... now the StarLedger maybe,but not the NYTimes

However, if it makes u feel better MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/)

[gekko]

Not the first time explosives have been stolen in Iraq, won't be the last. Definetly not our responsibility to gaurd every bunker containing explosives Only difference is this one can be blamed on Bush is spun correctly.

The real criminal here people, is not the people who stole the explosives and will use it to kill people, but rather Bush, because he single-handedly should be standing gaurd on that facility 24/7 so stuff like this doesn't happen. Now it's Bush's fault when they die, not the terrorists.

[Kitana85]

When we've proudly singlehandedly taken it into our hands to Police the entire world, had previous knowledge of this and did nothing, I concour with you gekko.

[Xantar]

It's called not having a plan to win the peace, gekko. Being as President Bush is the Commander in Chief, I would say that yes, it is his responsibility to make sure things like this don't happen. Note that this thread title doesn't call Bush a criminal. Merely incompetent. I think you're doing a little spinning of your own.

Now call me crazy, but I like my presidents to have control of things. Considering that many military advisors told the Bush adminstration and Secretary Rumsfeld that more troops would be needed to invade and hold Iraq and that they were ignored, my confidence in Bush is not at an all time high.

[Blackmane]

But, the point is that you are still blaiming Bush specifically for this, when in face a whole multitude of things could have happened. Perhaps the person in charge of the facility had enough troops, but misjudged how to use them, or was inept. We don't know. This is what is irritating about this whole election, Democrats specifically are finding every single problem in our lives and abroad, and somehow making it Bush's fault. (I'm not taking Republicans off the hook, they do some too, but not as much)

Not enough flu shots? Must be Bush's fault! He is a big business supporter and is helping drive up profits for big pharmecutical companies, even though they lose profits when they don't have enough. Oil and gas prices rising? Bush's fault! He should have called his Saudi buddies he's conspiring with to give us more! But he's not because hes a screw-up! Draft call in Congress? Bush's conspiring against us even though it was 2 anti-war Democrats who constructed the bill.

Enough is enough. Not everything can be blaimed on that man. The problem is, most Democrats won't let go of these accusations because it is the only thing that makes their candidate viable.

[Neo]

New report says weapons were gone before U.S. troops arrived -

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html

[Blackmane]

So, maybe Bush didn't just leave all these weapons sitting on the corner for resistance cells to take. Fancy that...

[Bond]

New report says weapons were gone before U.S. troops arrived -

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html
Well, that puts a little damper on your Bush bash fest.

[Neo]

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The IAEA confirmed the loss of these explosives a short while ago, and it must be remembered that Bush bears direct responsibility for this fiasco. Why? Because it was the Bush Administration that kept the IAEA from reentering Iraq after the invasion to inventory the stockpiles and resume looking for WMDs, preferring instead to handpick the leaders of the Iraq Survey Group, first led by David Kay, and then led by Charles Duelfer, so that a friendly face was in charge. Now it turns out that not only did their handpicked guys not find the WMD stockpiles, but Bush’s refusal to let the IAEA back into Iraq quickly to verify the disposition of these high explosives, something the IAEA was uniquely qualified to do due to their knowledge of where these explosives were, significantly contributed to the violence and deaths of our troops since the occupation began. Bush is not only responsible for these deaths, he is negligent as well.

[Blackmane]

it must be remembered that Bush bears direct responsibility for this fiasco.

Keep that in mind that this person is already throwing the entire blaim on Bush and not Bush's administration or anyone else besides Bush. This is a good indicator of bias right off the bat.

Because it was the Bush Administration that kept the IAEA from reentering Iraq after the invasion to inventory the stockpiles and resume looking for WMDs, preferring instead to handpick the leaders of the Iraq Survey Group, first led by David Kay, and then led by Charles Duelfer, so that a friendly face was in charge. Now it turns out that not only did their handpicked guys not find the WMD stockpiles, but Bush’s refusal to let the IAEA back into Iraq quickly to verify the disposition of these high explosives, something the IAEA was uniquely qualified to do due to their knowledge of where these explosives were, significantly contributed to the violence and deaths of our troops since the occupation began.

Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. They weren't allowing into Iraq because there was a war going on. Now, I'm not going to get too much into this but I will try to give a little more info on this to people.

The high explosives referred to as missing were missing before the US had toppled Saddam's regime in Baghdad. The day after was the beginnning of searches of the thousands of different stockpiles of weapons that were all over Iraq. I also believe that all these high explosives were sealed and marked so the IAEA could know where they were and what they were. Since the army was being responcible and trying to secure as much as possible (which I think they did), they were going through bunkers looking for all the high explosives. They knew they were missing right away, the story got published. Voila.

So, I would like someone to explain again how Bush was supposed to stop looting from occuring before he had control of Baghdad while the war was going on. Please, someone enlighten me.

What really cooks my noodle about this whole story is the fact that if you read the entire story from the NY Times, they never specifically mention a time frame from when this happened. In other words, they are trying to fabricate this 18 month old story into some brand new story of further chaos in Iraq and more incompetance on behalf of Bush. Obvious liberal bias on behalf of NY Times.

I don't know how you people can say that Fox is so much worse...

[Neo]

Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. They weren't allowing into Iraq because there was a war going on.

Exactly that's the part they leave out. I don't think anyone really believes it was Bush's fault and I really don't think it will change anyone's vote.

[dropCGCF]

I think it's funny that a thread about "incompetance" spelled "incompetence" wrong.

Side note: I have a feeling Osama's popping up very soon. Just calling it before it happens.