I hate to say it, N5 will be backwards compatible

[gekko]

From EGM:

"Holy hot tamales - have you seen the new Legend of Zelda for GameCube yet? This baby looks good enough for the next wave of consoles. I can assure you it ain't but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't play the game on Nintendo's future system. That's right, dudes and dudettes; I've gotten wind that the company's next console will also run GameCube software. Remember that you read it here first..."

Bad choice. Very bad choice. Here's why:

Storage medium
The mini-discs are cool and all, but it's about time they take a dump. Sure you can make a disc that size with a larger storage medium, but you can also take an already existing storage medium (like HD-DVDs) and it'll be cheaper, since it's massed produced. On top of that, no DVD playback again? Fine with me, it's not DVDs I think they should add, but HD-DVD support. High licensing costs for a technology that hasn't been adopted, I agree. If I were Nintendo, I'd include a HD-DVD lens that's backwards compatible, allowing developers to put games on regular DVDs, but they don't hesitate to use more room and put it on an HD-DVD. More importantly, it allows Nintendo to include DVD playback, and in a few years, when HD-DVD begins to start popping out, you can sell an upgrade which include the licensing costs (like Xbox's DVD kit). Now your 2-3 year old system is playing the latest and greatest technology has to offer. Plus, some people love custom soundtracks. The option is always nice.

Saved games
I'd rather not see the same memory cards used, not because of the cards themselves, but because I hate the way the games are saved. I like what Microsoft did, where all the files for the game were grouped together. This way I don't see 30 different files for the same game. I have a memory card full of Monkey Ball replays, and it makes up a million files. I have a ****load of Crazy Taxi 3 replays too, and it's all one file and nicely organized. As for the storage, I'd like to see an easily removable HD, like one where you can slide it in from the back. That way when your system breaks, you can keep the saved games. I am also praying for small memory card slots, like SD cards. Something hidden and out of the way.

Universal Settings
Anyone who plays games on a widescreen HDTV with 5.1 setup can come to love Xbox's universal settings. With Gamecube, I need to go into each game and select 16:9, select progressive scan, and select Dolby. With Xbox, it knows I use 16:9, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and I have Dolby Digital and DTS. I just turn on the game and go. And on a side note, I'm against forcing developers to do things, but if next generation someone like Microsoft forced developers to have 16:9 support, I would be all for it.

[Blix]

Hmmm! Don't know. I really don't hope they choose the same format either. It was fairly good for this generation but next generation it will be outdated. How fast can those HD DVD read? I don't supose they'll even be behind on speed when compared to the ODs. But for all we know it could be that their next drive may also be able to read them or something. And even though EGM may have a good reputation on the rumors dept. I like to keep them as that until they are confirmed. Just my two cents

[gekko]

I'd have to check, but I believe HD-DVDs can read faster than DVDs. But then again, HD-DVDs are generally going to be transferring larger amounts of data. But look at Xbox, the load times for that aren't bad at all.

[GameMaster]

Sweet! Now I can play all the games I've invested my money in for years to come!

[Null]

have to wait and see on this one. Nintendo has a lot of things that need to change and we'll see how they can do it.

They can still change memory type and have SOMEWHAT of a differnt format for the games. maybe full size optical discs where the drive can still read the old small ones.

but we'll see what they can pull out. the controller needs a pretty decent change to it and that might be the spot that hurts them the most. PS2's controller i doubt will change. but nintendo's really needs to a bit. no so much the feel but the button layout needs to be altered.


have to see what nintendo can pull out. Either way i wont be getting it, but it'll be interesting to see what they can do. IMO, they can change things that need to be and still keep backwards compatable.

[Jason1]

They can still change memory type and have SOMEWHAT of a differnt format for the games. maybe full size optical discs where the drive can still read the old small ones.

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Exactly what I was thinking. I mean, my CD rom drive can read mini CD roms. I wouldnt see why N5 couldnt work in the same way.

[Jonbo298]

Exactly what I was thinking. Nearly every CD/DVD Rom drive has that smaller notch for miniature versions of the discs. Who says Nintendo is staying mini. I think they are gonna go with a format that is about the same size as blu ray discs because they need to keep up with size comparisons otherwise companies will stay away or make little video clips in games look crap compared to other consoles.

And they don't have to go with the same memory card format. They can have some kind of converter and could put your saves on another format that Nintendo will probably support (something like SD cards, etc...) and then just copy files to it and play Gamecube games on it.

And who knows what Nintendo is doing next gen with their console. They are gonna learn from the things the other companies did this gen. and fix what they didn't do. Since this is the first console that doesn't have Yamauchi, the man who doesn't think there isn't competition, Iwata will hopefully listen to the industry and not try and go too far in one direction but still keep that Nintendo look/feel.

[code]

yay! Now I wont have to plug up my GCN to play the games when the n5 comes out.

[GT News]

yay! Now I wont have to plug up my GCN to play the games when the n5 comes out.

I'm glad your impressed, .Why now? What will you do instead?

[gekko]

I'm glad your impressed, .Why now? What will you do instead?

Did anyone ask for your opinion, bitch?

[Storm Eagle]

Sweet! Now I can play all the games I've invested my money in for years to come!

Ditto. :)

But...what about my GBA games???

I wonder if the N5 will have the ability to play the Nintendo DS games.

[Jonbo298]

It will at least for GBA. Hell, Nintendo would release an add-on that allows you to play DS games on your TV...only problem would be how to incorporate it without having a touchscreen handy

[Crash]

It will at least for GBA. Hell, Nintendo would release an add-on that allows you to play DS games on your TV...only problem would be how to incorporate it without having a touchscreen handy


nintendo did say they were working on the new gamecube system, and depending on how the DS does, they would change the N5 to match it's revolutionary features. praise god for the backward compatibility. Best.Decision.Evar!

[Canyarion]

I don't think that the memory system has to be a problem. They could just euh... make a converter that converts your game data. Or transportation from the GCN to the N5, via the DS. :D

[fingersman]

Well I do hope they change to control to suit a larger variety of games. The GC controller is comfortable and all but it doesn't work that well for a number of games.

Oh maybe they can a screen ( similar to the DC) attached to or placed in the controller that allows you to view maps and select items something like the touch screen on the DS?
:D

[Blix]

Knowing Nintendo, they will definitely change the controller desing. Miyamoto will most likely have something new that he wants to add. I really would like them to go back to the N64 controller's concept. That controller was awesome.

[Jonbo298]

'64 controller was the best ever for console FPS's. Also was good for other genres but it shined well with FPS's. I doubt Nintendo will do N64 controller again unless they can incorporate a 2nd controller without throwing everything out of whack.

[Null]

'64 controller was the best ever for console FPS's. Also was good for other genres but it shined well with FPS's. I doubt Nintendo will do N64 controller again unless they can incorporate a 2nd controller without throwing everything out of whack.


if nintendo wants to be inventive. they should make the first ever customizable controller.

made outta pieces you can take apart and rearange. lol. dunno if it would work or be good. but hell, it'd be inventive.

[Typhoid]

if nintendo wants to be inventive. they should make the first ever customizable controller.

made outta pieces you can take apart and rearange. lol. dunno if it would work or be good. but hell, it'd be inventive.



Or a SLIGHTLY easier idea, where you have a choice of which type of controller you want to come with your system.

[Vampyr]

'64 controller was the best ever for console FPS's. Also was good for other genres but it shined well with FPS's. I doubt Nintendo will do N64 controller again unless they can incorporate a 2nd controller without throwing everything out of whack.

Yes, it was deffinatly a great FPS controller...the Z-trigger was just like holding a gun. I liked having the Z button on the bottom of the controller, I never got used to having two shoulder buttons. Hopefully the next design will have a set up similiar to the N64.

I think what null said is incredibly cool. It would deffinatly take some hard work to design something like that...but it would be extremely awesome.

[tarakan69]

N64 = Controller for people with 3 hands.

[Dyne]

I STILL remember seeing the ad for that two-handed N64 controller.. I don't remember the name but it looked almost similar to the Gamecube one, N64 style. Anyone else remember it?

[Canyarion]

Ah yes, it really looked like a GC controller, but then with all the N64 buttons... But it was never official, was it??

[Jonbo298]

I STILL remember seeing the ad for that two-handed N64 controller.. I don't remember the name but it looked almost similar to the Gamecube one, N64 style. Anyone else remember it?

I know what your talking about. I wanna say either the name starts with an M or its called Mako or something along those lines.

[Dyne]

I know what your talking about. I wanna say either the name starts with an M or its called Mako or something along those lines.

Yeah, Mako sounds right. I figure if they just used that controller the whole time that they'd get more sales.

[Cyrax9]

While I rarely ever see eye to eye with Gekko, I now have a polar-opposite opinion with him! This is a new level of disagreement now! ;)

Gekko, your HD-DVD idea is great.... IN FIVE YEARS! Let's be realistic for a moment though; this N5/Project Revolution is already pretty far into development, and HD-DVD's have three big issues right now:

1. People just upgraded their VCR's to DVD Players/PVR's/DVD Writers, the average person isn't going to want to upgrade their A/V Equipment, AGAIN just a few years after the last upgrade, this is a major con for HD-DVD's -- early adopters may jump on but I see them as SACD's for Video, videophiles will buy them but the average consumer will ignore them at large until A) They're forced to upgrade or B) The HD Mandate actually goes through, right now it's set for 2009 and perpetually postponed as time goes on, translatyion: HD-DVD's future is unknown then we have Blu-Ray and EVD's and al other sorts of formats.

2. Who says you can't build a drive that plays GCN and larger DVD's!? My PC plays 3cm Disc's and 5.25" Disc's and there's no problem, my DVD Recorder can write DVD-RAM's -- in CARTRIDGES, Panasonic developed this so the tray design in the N5 will probably be similar, iif HD-DVD's are larger or in a cartridge the only differance will be price and that's like saying the Xbox or PS2 should loose CD Support for DVD-Only support. The price differance is small enough that it won't matter.

3. Can someone give me HD Specs? I thought not! They haven't been finalized yet!

So HD-DVD's would be a fiasco for awhile it looked like AOD was going to be the HD Standard EDV's looked good for awhie so did do Blu-Ray and HD-DVD what gets picked is up in the air though.

Right now though I'm GALD Nintendo is using abckwards compatibility. Every time I get a new Nintendo console I have to leave its' predeccessor conencted to play games from last-gen. I hate that it takes up space and wiring and looks bad in general. If the GBA wasn't abkcwards compatiible I'd ahveot have two GB's around all the time, three for GBC and GB and GBA games! This is the smartest thing Nintendo's done!

Microsoft, Sony, AND Nintendo's N5 are all abckwards compatible so I don't see a problem, it was a lack of backwards compatibility that killed the N64 and weakened the SNES which HAD originally planned for it but it cost too much with cartridges.

If the N64 could play all my SNES games I think the sales would've improved but Yamauchi was an idiot and killed his system, th GCN had to be without Backwards compatibility because of the Disc's being used! There is NO EXCUSE to have forwards-compatibility anymore with Optical Storage.

Ok, I'd like to see that controller re-designed, it's really not that different from the PS2 controller, just move the buttons arouund, size them normally etc., etc and you're fine the analog stick and D-Pad should swap places and the Z-Trigger should be doubled so it doesn't look "odd" in some places, the changes would just mean you need to memorize where new buttons are and if you can't do that you're probably the same person who can't use OS X and Windows 98. It's easy stuff, not rocket science here guys.

Also with Yamauchi out of the picture (I miss people asking when he's going to die, it used to be so much fun! Even the Japanese newspapers did it! ;)) the N5/Project Revolution is just that, a revolution in how we play Nintendo games, I hope they don't make another cube-shaped system but unique features that have been touted would be nice.

I want them to retool that controller, let you get a colored case a la the old GB's in multi-colors, have backwards compatiblity and a Built-in Game Boy Player for the next-Gen Gameboy system, if the DS does well they can sell an add on for that.

A goood idea would be three N5's though, "Lite," "Standard," and something like "The Iwata Edition."

The "Lite" version would just play games and could maybe block M-Rated games, it'd be the "Kids system" -- the same way kids get low-end PC's. The "Standard" edition would be a game system with some extra features and no ratings block or anything, a standard competitor for the XBX and PS3. The "Iwata Edition" would be produce in limited quantites anda vaiilable oonly throgh Nintendo online or large electronic's stores, it would have the built-in GB PLayer and be produced in limited quantites for die-hard ans individually numbered, as a Bonus, for the NES' 20th Anniversary if released in 2005 it could have a "Bonus Disc" of all NES Classics included, it wouldn't be as overpowered as the PSX but would be a high-end system.

Just some ideas....

Oh and gekko PLEASE tell me CamFu Bot is NOT the CamFu we all know as "that bald guy who's become the GT Figurehead" -- CamFu is like the GT Mascot, but CamFu Bot sounds like someone cloned "da 'Fu" and didn't program in intelligence, if he's a robot though... does he also need a lifetime supply of shampoo for his birthday? ;)

[Jonbo298]

Cyrax Lives! Welcome back :p

Good points and as usual, good reads by your posts.

[Null]

he's been away 3 months typing up that responce. hehehe

[Canyarion]

lol +rep. :D