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Bond
04-28-2002, 09:48 PM
Talk everything and anything about Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones. It opens May 16th. Have fun.

GameMaster
04-28-2002, 10:34 PM
Can't wait to see Yoda duke it out with a light saber! :D

Isn't it a wee bit early for this thread?

DeathsHand
04-28-2002, 10:44 PM
No, may 16th is like 18 days from now................ the only thing is, according to my little computer calender, may 16th is a thursday... and I believe movies only come out on fridays and, every now and then, wednsdays...

I think Episode 1 came out on a wednsday.... y'sure it's not May 15th? :p

Oh yeah uhhh the movie... it looks good... yep...

I'monna see it the first time I get the chance... as in when it's not sold out...

*checks rottentomatoes*... hmm that's weird... it is the 16th... Opening on a thursday? :hmm:

GameMaster
04-28-2002, 11:36 PM
StarWars Fun Fact #1: For the first time ever in StarWars history, Yoda will not be controlled by puppetry but rather will be completley computer generated and animated.

ghettodude
04-29-2002, 12:06 AM
hmm.. i wonder if that means i get to see the screening for it on wednesday...

cuz... the night before a new movie comes out... at the theatre i work at... all the employees get to watch it...

heh :D

GameMaster
04-29-2002, 12:18 AM
You lucky son of b... :mad:

Uhh, I mean you give all us here a good early review, ok? :D

TheGrimReaper
04-29-2002, 02:55 AM
I've already got my ticket for May 17th.

Man I can't wait.

Crash
04-29-2002, 12:49 PM
i'm not a star wars fanatic, but i like the movies, and i'm going to see the new one, just as soon as it comes out.


And i like doing star wars art. check out yoda... (jango fett coming soon, along with amidala)

Perfect Stu
04-29-2002, 03:10 PM
that's some sweet artwork Crash...dayum

Joeiss
04-29-2002, 03:22 PM
That is a sweet picture, Crash! Are you going to finish it? Or is that a style of art?


Oh, and Episode II is going to be amazing! I am so pumped up for it. I didn't get any toys yet, but that is okay. That means more money for my discman! Lol.

The scene where all of the Trade Federation (I think it is them...) tanks are big things (which look like pre-evolved AT AT Walkers) are attacking the 8 or 10 Jedi. That looks amazing!

And yeah, you can tell that Yoda is computer generated. When he is floating on that pillow when he is walking with Mace Windu and Obi Wan (I think), he looks pretty fake... Well, not fake, but not fuzzy like in the old ones.

Hmm... What else... I don't know... Apparently there is going to be some AMAZING lightsabre fight sequences, but I don't know if it will be able to top the Vader/Obi Wan fight from the original. :lol: All joking aside, I cannot see a new lightsabre fight being better than the Maul/Ben/Qui Gon fight in Episode I. That was so great. It was good acting by Ewan McGregor. I feel he showed alot of passion and he looked really sad/angry (even though Jedi should not use those emotions) when Qui Gon died.

Well, that is enough Star Wars for now. :D

Xantar
04-29-2002, 03:51 PM
If they get rid of Jar Jar Binks, the film will already be 50% better than Episode I (in my opinion). If they get rid of all the Gungans in general, the movie will be 100% better. And if George Lucas learns how to use his special effects to tell a story instead just showing off, the movie will be the must- see that Episode I should have been.

Crash
04-29-2002, 04:15 PM
yeah, i'll finish it.

and jar jar is in episode II, but amidala tells him to shut up. and we're supposed to enjoy that part. so... yeah, i guess.

Ginkasa
04-29-2002, 04:16 PM
Jar Jar is only in one small scene in the beginning. I don't know about Gungans as a whole though :unsure:


I don't care if Gungans are completely gone or not, just as long as they are not in the movie as much.





George Lucas also said at some point that he was dissappointed in Episode I also... I think so anyway....



In any case I believe that Episode II will be awesome.

Joeiss
04-29-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Xantar
If they get rid of Jar Jar Binks, the film will already be 50% better than Episode I (in my opinion). If they get rid of all the Gungans in general, the movie will be 100% better. And if George Lucas learns how to use his special effects to tell a story instead just showing off, the movie will be the must- see that Episode I should have been.

I believe that Jar Jar has a small role in the beginning of the film. He is a diplmat of the Gungans in the Republic. I am absolutely 100% positive that he will not have over 1.3 minutes of talking. So that is good.

Oh, and I also like how on the preview, it shows how the the Storm Troopers came about. Palpatine wanted to make an army of the republic, and he did. I also like how the masks are a pre-evolution of the storm troopers featured in Episodes 1, 2 and 3.

Ginkasa
04-29-2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss
storm troopers featured in Episodes 1, 2 and 3.





That should be the stormtroopers feature din Episodes IV, V, and VI.



:D

Joeiss
04-29-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Link1130






That should be the stormtroopers feature din Episodes IV, V, and VI.



:D

Haha.. My bad.


Stupid George Lucas and his time period - switching ways!

:wave:

Bond
04-29-2002, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Crash
i'm not a star wars fanatic, but i like the movies, and i'm going to see the new one, just as soon as it comes out.


And i like doing star wars art. check out yoda... (jango fett coming soon, along with amidala)
Wow... that looks awesome.

Jar Jar will be in Episode II, but for not very long I think. The current one is pretty good, but I'll post the better one soon.

Also, I'm going to put a different trailer in my signature every couple of days.

ghettodude
04-29-2002, 08:29 PM
alright.. considering the screening starts after the theatre is closed.. i will probably be at home around 3am EST ( 12 if ur on the west coast..) and hopefully i will have something nice to say about it.. heh.

Joeiss
04-29-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by ghettodude
alright.. considering the screening starts after the theatre is closed.. i will probably be at home around 3am EST ( 12 if ur on the west coast..) and hopefully i will have something nice to say about it.. heh.

And I will not be reading.

:p

I do not want to ruin my episode II experience!!!

Happydude
04-29-2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by ghettodude
hmm.. i wonder if that means i get to see the screening for it on wednesday...

cuz... the night before a new movie comes out... at the theatre i work at... all the employees get to watch it...

heh :D

what theatre you work at???



and just for the sake of being on the topic...i fell asleep in the theatre while watching Episode 1:D

GameMaster
04-29-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Link1130
George Lucas also said at some point that he was dissappointed in Episode I also... I think so anyway....

Well, it's not like there was nothing he couldn't of done about that, after all, it's his story. :rolleyes:

Or it was, I believe Coca Cola and Taco Bell own the franchise now ;)

fingersman
04-29-2002, 10:44 PM
I bet the whole movie sucks. :mad: I mean Episode 1 sucked so this one will suck as well. :mad:















Just kidding :p I honestly hope it's rocks, I plan on watching it....once it's good :p

C.H
04-30-2002, 04:40 PM
I can't wait to see Episode 2 either, at my local cinema they've been taking pre-orders for tickets for ages now. I'm not going to pre-order my tickets, i'll go and see the film a few days after it's out.

I can't believe they were even considering to have NSYC have a cameo in the film. Because of the uproar on the internet they didn't, but to even consider it :eek:.

I don't see why everyone hated Episode 1, i liked it.

Joeiss
04-30-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by C.H
I don't see why everyone hated Episode 1, i liked it.

Same here. It was all good except for : Anakins acting and some of Jar Jar Binks.

Mushlafa
04-30-2002, 05:26 PM
STAR WARS IS GAY. IT SUCKS ****E.





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No im just playin its not that bad.... i just never really got into it. I kinda tried but before i could finish watching episode 4 5 and 6 i had to give it back to my friend.

Il probably end up seeing it but it will prolly be on DVD.

gekko
04-30-2002, 05:53 PM
Episode I r0x0rs! http://209.120.142.48/forum/images/smilies/banana.gif

/me can't wait for more Padme :) I mean, EPII.

DeathsHand
04-30-2002, 06:06 PM
I liked Episode 1 also... I don't see what everyone was complainin' aboot :unsure:

It might not have been as good as 4, 5, and 6, but I don't think it was BAD :unsure: :unsure:

Oh and uhhh Episode 2 looks good... but wait I think maybe I said that already... :sneaky:

bobcat
04-30-2002, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by GameMaster
StarWars Fun Fact #1: For the first time ever in StarWars history, Yoda will not be controlled by puppetry but rather will be completley computer generated and animated.

I h8 computer generated things in movies. They really piss me off.

Why can't they just do it properly ?? Like in the good old days!

It's way more believable. Except maybe Godzilla :unsure:

That was pretty bodged

Crash
05-01-2002, 02:52 AM
update on the yoda picture, i guess he's almost done. a day or two more I suppose.

Crash
05-01-2002, 02:10 PM
and check out the starwars web site, there are new commercials that show jango fett killing jedi :D

Joeiss
05-01-2002, 06:06 PM
Way to double post.

:rolleyes:



:D


That drawing looks sweet, Crash! I wish I could draw like that.



:(

Blackmane
05-02-2002, 01:48 AM
Man, I'm hella excited for Episode II, especially seeing Yoda fight. I heard somewhere that he is a better martial artist than Mace Windu, despite his size. He also has greater control of the force, so he should be very formidable and entertaining to watch. :)

Crash
05-02-2002, 03:16 AM
Hey I finished the Yoda.... tell me what you think. Any requests? I think I'll do Amidala next, where can I find source material? (pictures)

GameMaster
05-02-2002, 03:29 AM
That looks great Crash! Whoa! :eek:

All it's a missing is an overpriced frame, jk. ;)

Seriously, though, looks great man. You strong points definatley ligh in texture.

Bond
05-02-2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Crash
Hey I finished the Yoda.... tell me what you think. Any requests? I think I'll do Amidala next, where can I find source material? (pictures)
That picture looks awesome Crash, nice drawing.

The Star Wars website (http://www.starwars.com) should have everything your looking for.

Joeiss
05-07-2002, 08:39 PM
*resurects topic*

here is an article from cnn.com. It is pretty good.

(CNN) -- It's an often-told tale that has taken on the aura of myth. No, not "Star Wars" -- the life of its creator.

Young George Lucas, fresh off the success of 1973's "American Graffiti," goes to work on his next film, a light Saturday-matinee confection called "Star Wars." Hollywood studios kick it around until it's finally picked up, reluctantly, by 20th Century Fox. A preview for executives, with the unfinished special effects replaced by footage of World War II dogfights, is a disaster.

And then, with the movie's release on May 25, 1977, a phenomenon is born.

Fast-forward 25 years. Lucas is now a filmmaking (and myth-making) icon. His empire includes the Skywalker Ranch, a vast home for his production company, Lucasfilm; a founding role with Industrial Light and Magic, one of Hollywood's leading special effects companies; and, of course, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Darth Vader, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, C-3PO, R2-D2 and all the rest of the characters who populate the "Star Wars" universe.

And that universe is about to grow: The fifth "Star Wars" film, "Star Wars -- Episode II: Attack of the Clones," is set for release May 16.

Lucas never imagined such success, he told CNN's Anderson Cooper -- nor did he imagine such a sprawling film chronicle. But his own creativity -- or the Force -- soon took matters out of his hands.

"When I started to write it, it got to be too big, it got to be 250, 300 pages," Lucas said. "I said, well, I can't do this. The studio will never allow this. I will take the first half, make a movie out of that, and then I was determined to come back and finish the other three, or other two stories."

'I had kids I was going to raise'
"Star Wars," of course, became the biggest-grossing film in history, and Lucas got his wish to complete the trilogy -- and complete control of it to boot. But after "Return of the Jedi" -- the final chapter of the original trio -- appeared in 1983, Lucas took a break, focusing on his producing endeavors and his businesses.

Lucas said he had no idea that he'd pursue a second trilogy, despite rumors in the early 1980s that he'd mapped out a total of nine films, three trilogies' worth.

"All I knew is, I was going to finish these three, and that was it," he told Cooper.

"And that's pretty much what I did. ... I had kids I was going to raise. I just had a different life planned out for me. But then, you know, I had that story sitting there. But that's what I had done [to prep for 'Star Wars' -- I hadn't really planned on turning it into a movie."

When he did decide to move ahead with the second group of films, beginning with 1999's "Star Wars -- Episode I: The Phantom Menace," the process took Lucas back through the "Star Wars" mythology and made him focus more tightly on character over plot.

"When I wrote 'Episode IV' [which we know as the original 'Star Wars'], I did figure out where everybody came from, how they got there and where everything went," he said.

"But what happens is when I told the first story, it was a feature film, which is primarily plot-oriented. But when you do a back story, it's pretty much character-driven."

Developing Darth

The entire series is based around the classic journey of the hero -- in the case of "Star Wars," Luke Skywalker -- but the first three films are focused on Luke's father, Anakin, who becomes the evil Darth Vader.

Lucas said "Star Wars" fans will learn a little more about what attracted Anakin Skywalker to the dark side in "Episode II."

"In this film, you begin to see that he has a fear of losing things, a fear of losing his mother, and as a result, he wants to begin to control things, he wants to become powerful, and these are not Jedi traits," he said. "And part of these are because he was starting to be trained so late in life, that he'd already formed these attachments. And for a Jedi, attachment is forbidden."

The new film was entirely shot on high-definition digital video, a first. Lucas said the technology has been a great boon to him.

"For a fantasy film, this kind of technology is almost a must in order to get your story told," he said.

Lucas has maintained his independence with the "Star Wars" films, doing things his way, on his schedule. He controls the "Star Wars" merchandising -- "I didn't want someone using the name 'Star Wars' on a piece of junk," he once said -- and also the many "Star Wars" characters and story lines, which live on in books and video games even when they're not appearing on the big screen.

"I'm able to tell the story the way it's meant to be told, and I don't have to listen to what [studio] market research does," he said.

"They would be listening to the fans -- 'and these people think you should be doing this, and these people think you should have that character in there.'

"These [stories] are not put together by a marketing department. They're purely sort of a creative act that was created to tell a great story."

Gamer
05-07-2002, 08:54 PM
Do you guys think that Episode 2 is going to beat Spiderman in tickey sales? or do you think thats not possible? Cause i think that so far Spiderman is the biggest selling movie, well at least in the first weekend. But i am for sre going to go see Episode 2, but do you guys think it will beat spidey for sales?

Bond
05-07-2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Gamer
Do you guys think that Episode 2 is going to beat Spiderman in tickey sales? or do you think thats not possible? Cause i think that so far Spiderman is the biggest selling movie, well at least in the first weekend. But i am for sre going to go see Episode 2, but do you guys think it will beat spidey for sales?
It's hard to say, I don't think it will beat Spider-Man though. :(

Joeiss
05-07-2002, 09:06 PM
Sar Wars will rape Spiderman....

Oh, and look at this. It is a little character thingy at cnn.com.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/coming.attractions/stories/star.wars/index.html


not complete, but it is alright!

gekko
05-07-2002, 09:08 PM
Episode 2 will kill Spider-Man. I mean, Spider-Man never even looked good if you ask me. Ebert didn't care much for it. Star Wars is a series with a huge group of followers, and a reputation for quality movies.

I don't recall people camping out 3 months ago for Spider-Man tickets, do you?

Joeiss
05-07-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by gekko
Episode 2 will kill Spider-Man. I mean, Spider-Man never even looked good if you ask me. Ebert didn't care much for it. Star Wars is a series with a huge group of followers, and a reputation for quality movies.

I don't recall people camping out 3 months ago for Spider-Man tickets, do you?

Yeye. And I know as a fact tha I will be seeing Epidose II at least 4 or 5 times.


Oh, and just something about Star Wars. it is funny how all the Jedi thought that the "chosen one" would be a great thing for the Jedi. But in reality, it killed all of the except for 2 (Yoda and ben). hehe... i just think that is funny.

Ginkasa
05-07-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss


Yeye. And I know as a fact tha I will be seeing Epidose II at least 4 or 5 times.


Oh, and just something about Star Wars. it is funny how all the Jedi thought that the "chosen one" would be a great thing for the Jedi. But in reality, it killed all of the except for 2 (Yoda and ben). hehe... i just think that is funny.


The Chosen One was a good thing. First he is the father to Luke Skywalker, of course, who becomes the first of the new Jedi. Vader also killed the Emperor and when he became Anakin again for that short amount of time at the end of RotJ he killed the Sith while the Jedi lived on. He did bring balance to the Force.... just after kind of tilting it a bit.... :unsure:


I think that Episode II will beat Spider-Man as well, though not by a whole lot. Just because you have people in line for three months doesn't mean there's going to be more people watching the movie, just more determined and patient.

Joeiss
05-08-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Link1130
The Chosen One was a good thing. First he is the father to Luke Skywalker, of course, who becomes the first of the new Jedi. Vader also killed the Emperor and when he became Anakin again for that short amount of time at the end of RotJ he killed the Sith while the Jedi lived on. He did bring balance to the Force.... just after kind of tilting it a bit.... :unsure:

Well, many argue that by killing the Emperer, he destroyed the balance of the force. You see, by having only two Sith and two Jedi in the whole universe, everything was balanced out. But, when Darth killed his master, and then he died, there are now only Jedi left, thus being unbalanced.

Ginkasa
05-08-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss


Well, many argue that by killing the Emperer, he destroyed the balance of the force. You see, by having only two Sith and two Jedi in the whole universe, everything was balanced out. But, when Darth killed his master, and then he died, there are now only Jedi left, thus being unbalanced.


Huh uh, the Sith created an imbalance with the Force because of the destruction and pain they created. So when the Sith were destroyed there was balance in the Force.

Joeiss
05-08-2002, 07:18 PM
Balance is an equal amount of two things. Not one thing stacked and the other nothing.

I understand what you are saying, I just like to make conversations about stuff like this.

I guess the main question is : Did Vader bring balance to the force by killing many Jedi, or by killing the Emperer?

I think that a good answer can be made from both views.