THE NFL 2005-2006 Thread.

[Perfect Stu]

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4 days till kickoff!

Who else is psyched?



Prediction time!!!

AFC Offensive Player of the Year: LaDainian Tomlinson
AFC Defensive Player of the Year: Dwight Freeney
NFC Offensive Player of the Year: Daunte Culpepper
NFC Defensive Player of the Year: Julius Peppers
MVP: LaDainian Tomlinson

AFC East

1.Patriots
2.Bills*
3.Jets
4.Dolphins

AFC South

1.Colts (h)
2.Jaguars
3.Texans
4.Titans

AFC West

1.Chargers
2.Chiefs*
3.Broncos
4.Raiders

AFC North

1.Ravens
2.Bengals
3.Steelers
4.Browns

NFC North

1.Vikings
2.Lions
3.Packers
4.Bears

NFC South

1.Falcons
2.Panthers*
3.Buccaneers
4.Saints

NFC East

1.Eagles (h)
2.Cowboys
3.Redskins
4.Giants

NFC West

1.Seahawks
2.Rams*
3.Cardinals
4.49ers


*wildcard team
first round bye
(h) homefield advantage

AFC Wild Card Round:

Bills @ Chargers
Chiefs @ Ravens

NFC Wild Card Round:

Rams @ Vikings
Panthers @ Seahawks

AFC Divisionals

Bills @ Colts
Ravens @ Patriots

NFC Divisionals

Panthers @ Eagles
Vikings @ Falcons

AFC Championship

Ravens @ Colts

NFC Championship

Falcons @ Eagles

SUPERBOWL

Falcons @ Colts




Yep, I'm a Colts fan. But this IS our year. Top offense in the NFL, much improved defense.


ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!?!

[Jonbo298]

I dont get too deep with football :p But I'm mainly Chiefs or Raiders. Can't settle on one tea

<watches as trash is thrown at me>

:eyes:

[Perfect Stu]

Chiefs or Raiders? That's a damn rivalry, how can you be a fan of both?

[Typhoid]

Broncos, Titans, 49ers.





I'm ****ed.

[Acebot44]

I'm a 49ers, Chargers, and Raiders fan.....why doesnt LA have a team yet?

[Bond]

NFC North

1.Vikings
2.Lions
3.Packers
4.Bears
You bitch.

[Jonbo298]

Chiefs or Raiders? That's a damn rivalry, how can you be a fan of both?

I didnt say I was perfect :sneaky:

[Stonecutter]

I'll give you my picks on Thursday.

I'll tell you this right now. Corey Simon makes a BIG difference.

[Stonecutter]

NFC West

Seahawks 9-7
Rams 8-8
Cardinals 6-10
49ers 3-13

NFC East

Eagles 11-5 B
Cowboys 9-7 WC
Giants 5-11
Redskins 4-12

NFC South

Panthers 13-3 B HFA
Falcons 10-6 WC
Saints 7-9
Bucs 6-10

NFC North

Vikings 9-7
Bears 7-9
Lions 7-9
Packers 7-9

AFC West (Who the **** knows)

Chiefs 11-5
Chargers 10-6
Broncos 8-8
Raiders 7-9

AFC East

Patriots 14-2 B HFA
Bills 10-6 WC
Jets 9-7
Dolphins 2-14

AFC South

Colts 12-4 B
Texans 9-7
Jaguars 8-8
Titans 1-15

AFC North

Steelers 11-5
Bengals 10-6 WC
Ravens 9-7
Browns 4-12

Every team not named the Browns, Titans or Dolphins couls make the playoffs out of the AFC.

BTW, 16 (games) times 32 (teams) = 512 and the wins and losses add up to that.

NFC Offensive Player of the Year Jake Dellhome
NFC Defensive Player of the Year Adewale Ogunleye
AFC Offensive Player of the Year Willis McGahee
AFC Defensive Player of the Year Corey Simon

Offensive ROY Mark Clayton
Defensive ROY Derrick Johnson

I want to say Panthers over Pats in the superbowl but now everyone is on the Panthers bandwagon which is pretty much the kiss of death, so I’ll take the pats to win #4 and have them knocking off….

Oh who the hell cares, the NFC Blows.

[Professor S]

The Falcons will go nowhere with Vick. I actually think Schaub would get them farther. Panthers are a scary team for us Eagles fans, though.

Go Birds.

[Typhoid]

Panthers are a scary team for us Eagles fans, though.


Every team is a scary team for Eagles fans.

[Stonecutter]

The Falcons will go nowhere with Vick. I actually think Schaub would get them farther. Panthers are a scary team for us Eagles fans, though.

Go Birds.

If we've learned anything from the Pats run these past years, it should be that while scoring points is now more important than ever, defense still wins football. The Falcons D is very good.

You still seriously underrate Vick. He's nowhere near as good as the Eastern Seaboard Programing Network talking heads like to hype him up as, but he's nowhere as bad as the anti Vick backlash likes to paint him.

[Krypton]

GO LIONS!!!


they've won 1 game in their preseason :mad:


they SUCK

[Professor S]

You still seriously underrate Vick. He's nowhere near as good as the Eastern Seaboard Programing Network talking heads like to hype him up as, but he's nowhere as bad as the anti Vick backlash likes to paint him.

I underrate Vick because he is seriously overrated. He is a running QB who is completely ineffective when you keep him in the pocket. Look at what the Eagles did to him for the past two years. The formula for beating Vick is so startingly simple I'm suprised more teams haven't figured it out:

Do not rush Vick
+ Keep him in the pocket
---------------------------------
You win

The Eagles punished Vick in last years NFC championship game, including a hit by Hollis Thomas that I desacribed as "Thats what it looks like when human being is hit by a vending machine", by letting Vick come to them.

If you take away Vick's legs, his arm will do more harm than good.

[Professor S]

You still seriously underrate Vick. He's nowhere near as good as the Eastern Seaboard Programing Network talking heads like to hype him up as, but he's nowhere as bad as the anti Vick backlash likes to paint him.

I underrate Vick because he is seriously overrated. He is a running QB who is completely ineffective when you keep him in the pocket. Look at what the Eagles did to him for the past two years. The formula for beating Vick is so startingly simple I'm suprised more teams haven't figured it out:

Do not rush Vick
+ Keep him in the pocket
---------------------------------
You win

The Eagles punished Vick in last years NFC championship game, including a hit by Hollis Thomas that I desacribed as "Thats what it looks like when human being is hit by a vending machine", by letting Vick come to them.

If you take away Vick's legs, his arm will do more harm than good for the Falcons.

[Bond]

My predictions:

NFC West
Seahawks
Rams
Cardinals
49ers

NFC East
Eagles
Cowboys
Giants
Redskins

NFC South
Panthers
Falcons
Buccaneers
Saints

NFC North
Packers
Vikings
Lions
Bears

AFC West
Chiefs
Chargers
Broncos
Raiders

AFC East
Patriots
Jets
Bills
Dolphins

AFC South
Colts
Jaguars
Texans
Titans

AFC North
Steelers
Bengals
Ravens
Browns

[Perfect Stu]

http://images.nfl.com/u/ap/photos/BAF105091123_lower.jpg

Colts 24 @ Ravens 7. How sweet it is!

And Bond...I may be a b*tch, but...from the look of things, I may just be a b*tch who knows what they're talking about.

[Stonecutter]

Oh lordy did the Packers BLOW yesterday.

Just a little bit of Oh-fense and the bears would win that division, unfortunatly I don't think they have it yet.

[Bond]

Oh lordy did the Packers BLOW yesterday.
I can't deny that, and Javon Walker is out for the entire ****ing year. God damnit...

[ZebraRampage]

God Damnit! The game hasn't even started, and there have been ejections! What the hell?! You should have just walked away from it Trotter..

[Bond]

What a start to MNF. This is going to be an interesting game...

[ZebraRampage]

The second quarter is almost over, and all I have to say is..there's still another half.

[Professor S]

Man the Eagles look like crap. Trotter being ejected (for NOT throwing a punch, apparently) is killing them.

[ZebraRampage]

Man the Eagles look like crap. Trotter being ejected (for NOT throwing a punch, apparently) is killing them.

They have nothing against the run because of it..but as usual, I'll have faith in the Eagles till the end of the game. They're still in it, they just don't have the stats that back it up really.

Lateral.. :unsure:

[Professor S]

I feel like I'm watching a bad highschool game after that botched lateral to Westbrook. Rediculous. This does not look like the Eagles team I know and love.

[The Germanator]

This is all I can say...The Eagles played like **** and still almost beat one of the supposed competitors in the NFC on their home turf. They should have won that game by a couple of touchdowns.

[ZebraRampage]

This is all I can say...The Eagles played like **** and still almost beat one of the supposed competitors in the NFC on their home turf. They should have won that game by a couple of touchdowns.

They actually should have won 16-13. Akers missed two field goals. They didn't look too great though..but it's only the first game, and hardly any team will win every game. It just sucks when you lose the first one, but it's all right. There's still next week.

[Perfect Stu]

dont worry...the NFC still sucks, you dont even need home field advantage

[ZebraRampage]

Does anyone else feel like this is a weird football year? I guess some things have happened that haven't happened for a long time. Cincinnati is 3-0, New England already lost a game, the Packers kind of died, Tampa is 3-0, Carolina was able to beat New England, but not Miami or New Orleans. Maybe these things just happen.

[Bond]

the Packers kind of died
Damn You!!!!

[jeepnut]

It's probably because you don't have a Packers related avatar Bond.

[Stonecutter]

Does anyone else feel like this is a weird football year? I guess some things have happened that haven't happened for a long time. Cincinnati is 3-0, New England already lost a game, the Packers kind of died, Tampa is 3-0, Carolina was able to beat New England, but not Miami or New Orleans. Maybe these things just happen.
In case you haven't noticed, this has been pretty much every year for the past 10 or so. There are no more dynasties. The NFL is actively bending the system such that every team is basically at about the same level. The idea is to establish parity. The fewer teams you have at 4-12, the more tickets you sell and interest you generate late in the season.

That’s why the team with the worst record gets the highest draft pick in the first round, but this is also the reasoning behind the salary cap, to keep the big market teams from outpacing the small markets like in baseball. The unfortunate thing is, unlike baseball, the NFL is in a good financial situation where all of its teams make money (maybe not the Cardinals, but everybody else) and there really is no reason for there to not be some salary flexibility. It would result in a MUCH better product on the field. There really aren't any truly good teams anymore, but it's a business not a game, so this is the way things are going to be.

[Bond]

It's probably because you don't have a Packers related avatar Bond.
I acknowledge your sarcasm, but am also at the same time desperate, so I'll try it.

[The Germanator]

There are no more dynasties.

There really aren't any truly good teams anymore, but it's a business not a game, so this is the way things are going to be.


I don't know man. I'm an Eagles fan and even I will admit that the Patriots are a legitimately GOOD team...You can't win 3 out of four and say they aren't.

I'd even say the Eagles having won 4 (5) straight division could qualify as a (much) lesser dynasty.

[Perfect Stu]

the hard salary cap is what helps make the NFL the best professional sports league in the world.

the fact that the owners, coaches and front office have to WORK to build and create a successful franchise is fantastic, instead of MLB which often turns into an auction.

[Stonecutter]

I don't know man. I'm an Eagles fan and even I will admit that the Patriots are a legitimately GOOD team...You can't win 3 out of four and say they aren't.

I'd even say the Eagles having won 4 (5) straight division could qualify as a (much) lesser dynasty.

To do what the Pats have done in this day and age is amazing, but even though the organization’s past 5 or 6 years to build this team may be the best 5 or 6 year run in the history of sports managing, this group of players wouldn't beat any other dynasty in NFL history (90s Boys, 90s Cos, 80s Giants, 80s 9ers, 70s Steelers, 70s Dolphins, 70s boys, 60's Pack, 50's Colts)

the hard salary cap is what helps make the NFL the best professional sports league in the world.

the fact that the owners, coaches and front office have to WORK to build and create a successful franchise is fantastic, instead of MLB which often turns into an auction.


Oh no no no no no.


You wantonly throw money around in MLB, you still lose. See Late 90s dodgers and Os, Yankees now (might not even make the playoffs), Os now, Mets forever. The system in the NFL is the best of the major sports but there are two things I want changed.

1) Adopt a slotted system for draft picks, like the NBA

2) Allow teams to go over the salary cap to resign a player that they drafted. As a colts fan you have to know that either Edge or Wayne is going to be gone next year. Why should a team that drafts well be punished because their hand picked talent has matured to the point that they can no longer afford it?

Baseball teams, with 81 revenue opportunities a year, can’t make more money than NFL teams with 8. If that number isn’t completely staggering I don’t know what is. The problem with baseball isn’t so much that teams are allowed to spend freely as it is that some teams don’t make enough money (or are owned by people/companies not willing to spend enough money) to even compete. The Atletics don’t have a huge payroll but they’ve been one of the most consistant teams in the league the last 5-6 years. That being said, the As are still spending about 26 million more than the D rays (55ish to 29ish.) If you’ll take a look at the team payrolls:

http://www.onestopbaseball.com/TeamPayroll.asp

You’ll notice that right around that 55-60 million dollar range (which is better than 2/3rds of the league) you see a big separation between the teams that are at least competitive and your bottom feeders. If baseball just had a little revenue sharing with a salary floor, you’d see a lot more competitive teams. At the very same time, however, you’ll see that there are teams in the top 15 that are absolutely dreadful.

It’s further proof that throwing money at a problem won’t necessarily make it go away, and it furthers my belief that the NFL could actually strengthen the game, remove some parity, allow a few teams to form a true upper echelon and make football a lot more interesting. Remember how great the Packers/Cowboys/49ers match ups in the mid 90s were? They would have made last weekend’s Steelers/Pats tilt look like a pre season game.

[Perfect Stu]

You cant CANT CANT have a situation where only 20% of the league has a chance each year. It's boring. Then again, Im a business and marketing oriented person...To me, you cant have 32 teams in a league where only 5 or 6 have a shot at a title going into the seasn. Trim that league down to 16 and it's another story. If the NHL had 16 teams the game would be 5 times better. But the league is so watered down, the game has actually devolved. It's sad.

Same COULD be said about the NFL but it's a different game. Once a week games, different (bigger) fan base. It's a different situation. It's a business, first and foremost...and that interests me as a fan of the GAME. Look at the Bengals franchise right now. I love it...I love the fact that this team was absolute garbage 4 years ago, and without buying a new team the franchise will now be competing with the best of the best.

The on-field product...sure...it could be more entertaining. Moreso to the casual fan. I can watch a 13-7 game and appreciate good blocking or coverage or special teams. Most people cant...different strokes for different folks.

I DO agree with your 'exceptions for homebrew players' concept. Teams that draft well should benefit for a more extended period of time. My Colts have drafted about as well as any other team, right up there with the Ravens, over the past 7-8 years. The fact that some of these players will be gone soon doesnt sit well with me...but that's part of the business. With a new CBA on the horizon, we probably wont see any DRASTIC changes but I think the NFL is trying to open up the league just a little.

The NFL is right where it should be, in my mind.

[Stonecutter]

You cant CANT CANT have a situation where only 20% of the league has a chance each year. It's boring. Then again, Im a business and marketing oriented person...To me, you cant have 32 teams in a league where only 5 or 6 have a shot at a title going into the seasn. Trim that league down to 16 and it's another story. If the NHL had 16 teams the game would be 5 times better. But the league is so watered down, the game has actually devolved. It's sad.

Same COULD be said about the NFL but it's a different game. Once a week games, different (bigger) fan base. It's a different situation. It's a business, first and foremost...and that interests me as a fan of the GAME. Look at the Bengals franchise right now. I love it...I love the fact that this team was absolute garbage 4 years ago, and without buying a new team the franchise will now be competing with the best of the best.

The on-field product...sure...it could be more entertaining. Moreso to the casual fan. I can watch a 13-7 game and appreciate good blocking or coverage or special teams. Most people cant...different strokes for different folks.

I DO agree with your 'exceptions for homebrew players' concept. Teams that draft well should benefit for a more extended period of time. My Colts have drafted about as well as any other team, right up there with the Ravens, over the past 7-8 years. The fact that some of these players will be gone soon doesnt sit well with me...but that's part of the business. With a new CBA on the horizon, we probably wont see any DRASTIC changes but I think the NFL is trying to open up the league just a little.

The NFL is right where it should be, in my mind.
What do you mean only "20% of the teams have a chance"? MORE THAN 20% OF THE TEAMS IN BASEBALL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! Only about 20% of the teams have NO chance when the season starts and if you added revenue sharing and a salary floor pertinent to that revenue sharing you'd eliminate that group of teams that was perennially out of it.

also:


Same COULD be said about the NFL but it's a different game. Once a week games, different (bigger) fan base. It's a different situation. It's a business, first and foremost...and that interests me as a fan of the GAME. Look at the Bengals franchise right now. I love it...I love the fact that this team was absolute garbage 4 years ago, and without buying a new team the franchise will now be competing with the best of the best.

The on-field product...sure...it could be more entertaining. Moreso to the casual fan. I can watch a 13-7 game and appreciate good blocking or coverage or special teams. Most people cant...different strokes for different folks.

I'd be able to appreciate good coverage but unfortunately you can't SEE it 99.9% of the time (on tv at least, believe it or not I've never been to a game over the High School level.)

Aside from that, I don't have a problem with the fact that the Bengalis are 3-0, I just don't know if the Bengalis are a good team, I don't know if the Bills, at -2 are a bad team, I'm willing to bet that they're both average teams. I think the Pats, Colts, Steelers and Eagles are slightly better than the rest of the teams in the league, and I think the Packers, Texans, Jets and Cardinals are slightly worse.

That leaves 26 teams that I think will finish anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6 but I do not believe for a second that the 10 and 6 teams would dominate the 6 and 10 teams across the board. Some teams just got a little more luck, a few more calls, a few less injuries. Granted, you could always say the same, but unlike now 10 or 15 years ago the 10 and 6 teams were markedly better than the 6 and 10 teams, and I don't believe that to be the case anymore.

Upsets aren’t special anymore. Yes, “any given Sunday” has always been true, but it’s a little too true now and I can’t see how that strengthens the game.

[Perfect Stu]

What do you mean only "20% of the teams have a chance"? MORE THAN 20% OF THE TEAMS IN BASEBALL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!.


and i can name a couple playoff teams that wont stand a chance of winning the world series...what's your point?

[Stonecutter]

and i can name a couple playoff teams that wont stand a chance of winning the world series...what's your point?
One of those teams in 2003 would have been the Marlins.
And one of those teams in 2002 would have been the Angels.
One of those teams in 1997 would have been the Marlins.

[Krypton]

Lions suck.

[Perfect Stu]

One of those teams in 2003 would have been the Marlins.
And one of those teams in 2002 would have been the Angels.
One of those teams in 1997 would have been the Marlins.

i see your point, no doubt. there are exceptions.


anyways, who's psyched for week 4?

the Jets offense (3rd string QB and all) might be in trouble vs. the Ravens

[Krypton]

The lions might be in trouble, whole f**king season.

[Perfect Stu]

The lions might be in trouble, whole f**king season.


well, they ARE first place in the NFC North :)


:unsure:

:lol:

[Bond]

Oh... the Pack is finally back.

[Stonecutter]

1 and 4 after a win over the USA Saints is hardly back, no matter how many points you score.

[Krypton]

whoa, Lions beat the Ravens 35-17.


whoa.

[Professor S]

My Eagles got smoked today... by the friggin' Cowboys. It is a dark day in Philadelphia my friends.

[The Germanator]

My Eagles got smoked today... by the friggin' Cowboys. It is a dark day in Philadelphia my friends.

You can say that again...

I'm not sure if I've seen the Eagles play that poorly (or the Cowboys that well?) since we started 0-2 in 2003...I don't know what to think about this team this year...We'll see..

[Stonecutter]

My Eagles got smoked today... by the friggin' Cowboys. It is a dark day in Philadelphia my friends.


'Splain to me why McNabb is playing? Why in the hell don't they just let him have the surgery so he's healthy for December and January? The Iggles are clearly to the class of the NFC, even after yesterday. Let Anonymous Detmer Brother #1 lead the team for 4 weeks and Westbrook everybody to death, then crank it up the last few weeks of the season.

[The Germanator]

'Splain to me why McNabb is playing? Why in the hell don't they just let him have the surgery so he's healthy for December and January? The Iggles are clearly to the class of the NFC, even after yesterday. Let Anonymous Detmer Brother #1 lead the team for 4 weeks and Westbrook everybody to death, then crank it up the last few weeks of the season.

Especially with a bye week next week, this is exactly what I've wanted the Eagles to do since I heard that McNabb would only be out 4-6 weeks if he elects to have surgery. I mean, we signed McMahon for a reason and I'd rather struggle for a few games in between than have no McNabb for the playoffs...

[Bond]

Jesus H. Christ.

[Krypton]

oh my gawd.

The Lions won!

13-10 at Cleveland!!!!!!

[Perfect Stu]

7-0 going into the bye. How sweet is it? Just ask these guys:


http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/HTT10510232030.jpg

[Typhoid]

7-0 going into the bye. How sweet is it? Just ask these guys:


http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/HTT10510232030.jpg


I'd ask them, but they seem to have some sort of synchronized thing going on.


And frankly, that scares me.

[Stonecutter]

Oh... the Pack is finally back.

The pack is what?

[ZebraRampage]

Well, the Eagles offense is very shaky, but their defense was phenomenal. They held LaDainian Tomlinson to 7 rushing yards. That's crazy!

[Krypton]

damn, 7-0, can it get any sweeter?

[Perfect Stu]

And frankly, that scares me.


*phew*

I thought I was the only one.

Edgerrin James has to be an early candidate for MVP or maybe Offensive POY. Maybe not the TOP contender at this point, but he's on pace for an amazing season.

801 yards rushing, 7 TDs rushing
4.9 yards/carry
19 receptions, 172 yards receiving, 1 TD receiving

Tops in the NFL in rushing and yards from scrimmage.


on pace for:

1831 yards rushing, 16 TDs rushing
4.9 yards/carry
43 receptions, 393 yards receiving, 2 TDs receiving

[Stonecutter]

I've been waiting 4 years to say this.....


FIRST PLACE CHICAGO BEARS

[Krypton]

I've been waiting 4 years to say this.....


FIRST PLACE CHICAGO BEARS

oh gawd.

DAMN LIONS ><

[Professor S]

I'm done with the NFL. Tonight's game was the most obviously fixed professional sports event I've ever seen.

1) Leto Sheppherd jogs while covering Terry Glenn for his first touchdown.

2) Before Roy Williams intercepts Donovan McNabb for the touchdown to win the game, #56 of the Cowboys is already running downfield to block for him. Seriously, check the replay. 56 never turns his hips to chase the ball. Plus, McNabb was looking to the right the entire time. It would have been impossible to miss Williams waiting for the pass.

And did I mention that the line was the Eagles by 3? Even if Akers made the fieldgoal to win the game the Cowboys would have covered the spread.

DONE.

[The Germanator]

I don't know about all of that, but I'm certainly done with the Eagles this year. I rarely get to watch them at college, but I've watched four games this year...Result? 0-4....I've had enough. Let the Philadelphia sports woes continue.

Go Flyers? Eh, why do I bother?

[Professor S]

I'm not kidding, Germ. Check the replay of the interception. 56 is getting ready to block before the interception. I wish I was just overreacting.

[Typhoid]

I'm not kidding, Germ. Check the replay of the interception. 56 is getting ready to block before the interception. I wish I was just overreacting.


I dont know....


I play Soccer and Hockey in competitive leagues, and after playing a game in the cold, your body sometimes gives out on you. Like in soccer. I can think of countless times were I've seen people go from a sprint down a field on a breakaway, to a slow jog, and get checked instantly.

I dont think its fixed, is what I'm trying to say.

[Perfect Stu]

strangler, dude...you're losing your mind

ive seen teams fold like cheap suitcases before that leave you thinking "WTF?", but it's not FIXED. give me a break...im just hoping that you were really drunk when you typed that

[Solid Snake]

The NFL is not fixed.

I am extremely happy this year because the Denver Broncos are now 7-2 and first place in our division. :dance:

Anyways I wanted to see who you guys think will be in the playoffs.

These are my picks:

AFC
1st seed: Colts
2nd seed: Steelers
3rd seed: Broncos
4th seed: Bengals
5th seed: Patriots
6th seed: Chargers

NFC
1st seed: Panthers
2nd seed: Cowboys
3rd seed: Seahawks
4th seed: Giants
5th seed: Bears
6th seed: Redskins

[Krypton]

I still have a bit of faith in the lions.

with Jeff Garcia, they play like ****, without, they actually have a chance.

[Stonecutter]

The NFL is not fixed.

I am extremely happy this year because the Denver Broncos are now 7-2 and first place in our division. :dance:

Anyways I wanted to see who you guys think will be in the playoffs.

These are my picks:

AFC
1st seed: Colts
2nd seed: Steelers
3rd seed: Broncos
4th seed: Bengals
5th seed: Patriots
6th seed: Chargers

NFC
1st seed: Panthers
2nd seed: Cowboys
3rd seed: Seahawks
4th seed: Giants
5th seed: Bears
6th seed: Redskins


The top 4 seeds in both conferences are the 4 division winners, thus the Giants and Bengals can't be 4s unless you move Pit and Dallas down.

NFC

1) Atlanta
2) Seattle
3) Chicago
4) New York
5) Carolina
6) Dallas

AFC

1) Indy
2) Pitt
3) Denver
4) New England
5) Cinci
6) San Diego


Season starts sunday for my Bears. I don't really think they're for real, and I expect the panthers to win, but I'd love to be wrong.

[Perfect Stu]

AFC

1.Indianapolis Colts (14-2)
2.Denver Broncos (12-4)
3.Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4)
4.New England Patriots (10-6)
5.Cincinatti Bengals (11-5)
6.Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5)

NFC

1.Seattle Seahawks (12-4)
2.Carolina Panthers (12-4)
3.New York Giants (11-5)
4.Chicago Bears? (9-7)
5.Atlanta Falcons (10-6)
6.Dallas Cowboys (10-6)

[The Germanator]

AFC

1.NOT THE EAGLES
2.NOT THE EAGLES
3.NOT THE EAGLES
4.NOT THE EAGLES
5.NOT THE EAGLES
6.NOT THE EAGLES

NFC

1.NOT THE EAGLES
2.NOT THE EAGLES
3.NOT THE EAGLES
4.NOT THE EAGLES
5.NOT THE EAGLES
6.NOT THE EAGLES

I'm still suffering from Monday...Pathetic, but true. :distress:

[ZebraRampage]

AFC

1.NOT THE EAGLES
2.NOT THE EAGLES
3.NOT THE EAGLES
4.NOT THE EAGLES
5.NOT THE EAGLES
6.NOT THE EAGLES

NFC

1.NOT THE EAGLES
2.NOT THE EAGLES
3.NOT THE EAGLES
4.NOT THE EAGLES
5.NOT THE EAGLES
6.NOT THE EAGLES

I'm still suffering from Monday...Pathetic, but true. :distress:


I know, it's pretty damn bad, but honestly it's all right. It's just not their year. Next year something might happen. There are injuries, and we don't have TO anymore, not that I really care. A lot of things just keep going the wrong way.

[Krypton]

it might just be possible that Detroit gets its first winning season in well, hell, when was the last time they did?

[Perfect Stu]

it might just be possible that Detroit gets its first winning season in well, hell, when was the last time they did?



mid 90's...led by 2000 yard rusher Barry Sanders?

'he'll cut on a dime and give you change"

http://media.scout.com/Media/NFL/52_Barry-Sanders-Front.JPG

[Stonecutter]

mid 90's...led by 2000 yard rusher Barry Sanders?

'he'll cut on a dime and give you change"

http://media.scout.com/Media/NFL/52_Barry-Sanders-Front.JPG
2000, 9 - 7 Led by the Immortal Jimmy Stewart and Charlie Batch.

[Perfect Stu]

2000, 9 - 7 Led by the Immortal Jimmy Stewart and Charlie Batch.


*shudder*

[Krypton]

I had always though Charlie Batch didn't do his part.

[Bond]

Two great games today, Bears/Panthers and Colts/Bengals. I'm starting to wonder if these Bears are for real? I still am rather doubtful myself.

[Perfect Stu]

the Bears DEE is legit. best in the NFL

I think their offense is going to have to score more to win in the playoffs, though...

[Perfect Stu]

2000, 9 - 7 Led by the Immortal Jimmy Stewart and Charlie Batch.


http://www.dacre.org/stills/webr/Stef708.jpg


"It's true, I tell ya...TRUE! By golly, in between Hitchcock films I took those Lions and I GAVE them the winning record they were waiting for."

"Yeah, yeah...can you take your hands of my ass now?"

"...no"

[Stonecutter]

Two great games today, Bears/Panthers and Colts/Bengals. I'm starting to wonder if these Bears are for real? I still am rather doubtful myself.
I wasn't until yesterday.

You put the panthers O on their 20 yard line at 3 pm yesterday, and move them back to the 20 every time they fail to get 10 yards in 4 plays, and just let them play against the bear D, and I guarentee you they still haven't scored a touchdown.

Bears haven't allowed a touchdown at home in two months.

8 sacks. ALL by the defensive front four. I don't think the bears blitzed a LB or saftey in the entire 2nd half and they still had Delhomme running scared.

[ZebraRampage]

I wasn't until yesterday.

You put the panthers O on their 20 yard line at 3 pm yesterday, and move them back to the 20 every time they fail to get 10 yards in 4 plays, and just let them play against the bear D, and I guarentee you they still haven't scored a touchdown.

Bears haven't allowed a touchdown at home in two months.

8 sacks. ALL by the defensive front four. I don't think the bears blitzed a LB or saftey in the entire 2nd half and they still had Delhomme running scared.

I'm rooting for the Bears, them being my second favorite team in the league. I'm hoping that they will do well. It's so frustrating with all these issues that the Eagles are going through..but it's just one year, and hopefully all of the injuries will be fixed next year.

[Bond]

Watching Packer games this year just kills... ugh...

[The Germanator]

Watching Packer games this year just kills... ugh...

Yeah, well, at least the Eagles got to play a team they could finally beat.

[Perfect Stu]

the NFC just plain SUCKS

seriously...

it's just crappy football...

[Perfect Stu]

oooh, where's Jason?

the Colts put a beating on the Steelers last night...downright embarassed them


11-0, it has a nice ring to it

[Stonecutter]

oooh, where's Jason?

the Colts put a beating on the Steelers last night...downright embarassed them


11-0, it has a nice ring to it


I don't know who I hate more, the modern day colts with that assclown TIMMY at QB, or the 72 dolphins, the most classless group of individuals in the entire sporting world.

As my bears still have a statistical chance at winning it all, I'm not too worried about this right now, but if the bears are knocked out, I'm going to have a tough time picking a team to root for.

[Krypton]

Watching Packer games this year just kills... ugh...

same with the lions, I would have thought they would have done so much better this year, but yet so disappointing. now they fired Steve Mariucci, what is next to come?

[Jason1]

Colts played well, Pittsburgh played poor. They are a good team, no doubt about it. But Id like to see Mannings wussy ass play Pittsburgh outside that precious RCA dome. After Rothlisberger hadnt just come off of knee surgery.

That and If I had a quarter for every time Manning called an audible. That pissed me off.

[Perfect Stu]

I don't know who I hate more, the modern day colts with that assclown TIMMY at QB



lol

I love it...I love how one of the classiest, most talented players in the NFL pisses tons of people off. :D I absolutely love it.

the Steelers even lost to the Pats this year at home (whom we killed outside the 'cozy' RCA Dome, when PEYTON MANNING's wussy ass made his one hundred and somethingth consective start), so I guess the win wasnt that big of a deal.

oh, and keep callin those audibles, Timmy. its fun to watch.


GO COLTS

[Stonecutter]

lol

I love it...I love how one of the classiest, most talented players in the NFL pisses tons of people off. :D I absolutely love it.

the Steelers even lost to the Pats this year at home (whom we killed outside the 'cozy' RCA Dome, when PEYTON MANNING's wussy ass made his one hundred and somethingth consective start), so I guess the win wasnt that big of a deal.

oh, and keep callin those audibles, Timmy. its fun to watch.


GO COLTS

It isn't so much Manning himself that I hate, it's the new "aura" that he's getting in the media, he's going to be the new Favre, the guy that everybody loves to verbally fellate at every oppertunity.

But yeah, seriously, Peyton, snap the ****in ball.

[Perfect Stu]

i hate the NFL media...TO TO TO Brett Favre alone can win games Terrell Owens TO TO Colts are 5-0, can they go undefeated? TO TO Randy Moss Tom Brady Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Manning 4 MVP TO

[Solid Snake]

The Bears are looking like the Baltimore Ravens team that won the Super Bowl a few years back. They will go a long way this year because I don't think the NFC is a very good confrence.

Besides the Broncos I am cheering for the Colts purely because I like Peyton Manning. Besides John Elway he is becoming the greatest Quaterback I have ever seen play. It is just a matter of time before he has a Super Bowl Ring, which I think will be this year.

Prediction:
Broncos @ Colts (AFC Championship)
Bears @ Seahawks (NFC Championship)

[Stonecutter]

The Bears are looking like the Baltimore Ravens team that won the Super Bowl a few years back. They will go a long way this year because I don't think the NFC is a very good confrence.

Besides the Broncos I am cheering for the Colts purely because I like Peyton Manning. Besides John Elway he is becoming the greatest Quaterback I have ever seen play. It is just a matter of time before he has a Super Bowl Ring, which I think will be this year.

Prediction:
Broncos @ Colts (AFC Championship)
Bears @ Seahawks (NFC Championship)

The Bears D might be better than that 00 ravens D, but history and the stigma that Trent Dilfer unfairly carries have tarnished what was actually a fairly mediocre (as opposed to the purported awful) Raven offense. An offense that was FAR better than the 05 bears.

[Solid Snake]

The Bear's O is definetly awful this year, they are going to have to score more than 20 points if they want to even consider winning any type of championship game.

[Krypton]

The Bear's O is definetly awful this year, they are going to have to score more than 20 points if they want to even consider winning any type of championship game.

well it must be good enough to get them to 8-3.

[Stonecutter]

Oh... the Pack is finally back.


Oh they sure are.

Man I've been waiting 13 years for that.

[Perfect Stu]

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/NAD11712042141.jpg

Edgerrin James and the Colts shake and bake to 12-0

TWELVE and OH, BABY!

[Stonecutter]

Green Bay Couldn't run
Bears Made it hard for them to pass
Twelve years in the making
And they kicked the Packers ass
Ohhh I like it
I Love it....

[Typhoid]

I'll stand by my Seahawks.

[Perfect Stu]

Ohhh I like it
I Love it....


I want some more of it...

I try...so hard...I cant rise above it

Dont know what it is about the pushin and the shovin but

I like it

I love it...

I want some more of it


https://www.musicountry.com/timmcgraw/tim_topleft3_2.jpg

[The Germanator]

I'll stand by my Seahawks.

What's that I smell? I think it's upset pie. Eagles over Seahawks tonight.

[The Germanator]

What's that I smell? I think it's upset pie. Eagles over Seahawks tonight.

You idiot...

This is the second Eagles game that I couldn't even get through the second quarter of...Despicable.

[Bond]

Sounds like me watching the Packers this year. :(

[Typhoid]

What's that I smell? I think it's upset pie. Eagles over Seahawks tonight.


I think its being served with a side of Irony flavoured Ice Cream.



Where is this upset you speak of?


Do you think you'll get your precious 42 or more points in the remaining 4th Quarter?

[Stonecutter]

A GLORIOUS winter wonderland for a setting, and they couldn't even keep it interesting for a half.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Perfect Stu]

oh dear LORD

that's just ugly football...you cant even call that football

Philly, what happened?

[Typhoid]

Hey Germy, you might want to tell the Eagles to show up for this game.

[The Germanator]

I think its being served with a side of Irony flavoured Ice Cream.



Where is this upset you speak of?


Do you think you'll get your precious 42 or more points in the remaining 4th Quarter?

Look, I already backtracked on my statement in the second quarter. I think my insult was enough, alright...

[Typhoid]

Look, I already backtracked on my statement in the second quarter. I think my insult was enough, alright...


I'm sorry. I love you. Let us never fight again, and always hold that hug dear to our hearts.


Its just, well, being a Seahawks fan, I havent really had much to be happy about in past years. And now, its all overwhelming.

And I justc ant contain myself. :(

[Professor S]

Philly, what happened?

I DON'T KNOW. SWEET CHRIST ON A CRACKER, I HAVE NO ****ING CLUE.

[Krypton]

that was somewhat of a pitiful game, was it not?

[Bond]

I'm going to the Packer game tonight... first Sunday Night Football game... yummy. They better win or I'm going to storm the field.

[Jason1]

Bears were brought back to earth today.

[Bond]

http://images.packers.com/images/homephoto/051211gado_lions_415.jpg
SAMKON GADO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Twas a fun game. I'm still waiting for feeling to return to my fingers though.

[Krypton]

Lions playcalling was ****ing sucky. and Jeff Garcia just plain sucks.

[Perfect Stu]

Indianapolis Colts

13-0

Give yourself a hand, Coach Dungy...










http://www.colts.com/images/news_photos/feature/2005_dungy_15.jpg

[Stonecutter]

http://images.packers.com/images/homephoto/051211gado_lions_415.jpg
SAMKON GADO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Twas a fun game. I'm still waiting for feeling to return to my fingers though.

Now you want to talk about fixes? Not like anything was on the line but the refs gave that game to the packers (well, so did Dick Jaroun, but come on.)

Oh never mind the fact that the hold occurred 3 yards deep in the endzone if he was a passer he was defiantly "in the grasp." and it should have been a sack.

Bears won't be anything more than one and done this year if the offense cant step it up. Grossman is supposedly healthy, he should play, he can't put up worse numbers than Orton.

[KillerGremlin]

Hey....Colts? 13-2.

Ummm....I'm still a Bears fan. And I'm kinda happy about that this year.

[Stonecutter]

NFC NORTH CHAMPION CHICAGO BEARS!

[Krypton]

yeah, that was an awesome game!

go lions! 13-12!

[KillerGremlin]

Holy crap I thought Favre was going to pull one of his crazy comebacks and sling a 40 yard pass down the field after his 50 yard pass in the 4th, with like a minute left. But he just got sacked a few times.

If the special teams didn't mess up, and if Muhsin Muhammad didn't bobble so many passes, it would have been 31-10 Chicago. Oh well....

[Krypton]

I guess the Bears did pretty good against the Packers, but then again, the Packers weren't having that great of a season anyway.

[KillerGremlin]

Maybe not, but I give Favre credit this year.

The packs should have 5 or 6 wins, not 3. They've had a few misfortunes this year.

But winning is winning, even if it's dirty. The Bears have had a few not-so-clean wins this year. But I'm definitely not complaining.

[Dylflon]

I felt bad for that guy on the Packers who's touch down got revoked. That was a once in a season chance. And on Christmas.

Poor dude.

[Bond]

The packs should have 5 or 6 wins, not 3. They've had a few misfortunes this year.
A few misfortunes you say? A few? A FEW? Gahhh...

[Bond]

Mr. Sherman is gone. School is going to be rather awkward tomorrow...

[KillerGremlin]

I don't blame Mike Sherman for the misfortunates on Green Bay this year, but the chemistry he has had with the team hasn't been great over the last 2, even 3, years.

Basically, Brett Favre isn't Brett Favre anymore. Sure...he's still got a cannon, but it's starting to rust. Favre isn't a bad QB, but you can't change the QB, you gotta change the team around the QB. Unless Favre retires.

[Bond]

I don't blame Mike Sherman for the misfortunates on Green Bay this year, but the chemistry he has had with the team hasn't been great over the last 2, even 3, years.

Basically, Brett Favre isn't Brett Favre anymore. Sure...he's still got a cannon, but it's starting to rust. Favre isn't a bad QB, but you can't change the QB, you gotta change the team around the QB. Unless Favre retires.
Well, yes, Favre's skills are slowly deteriorating, but he is still one of the best QBs in the league. This year he was throwing to Donald Driver and a bunch of nobodies. I think that was more so the problem than Brett Favre himself. Also the fact they lost Ahman Green and Najeh Davenport - they had no running game at all. Then they found Samkon Gado, but alas, he was also injured.

[Stonecutter]

Mr. Sherman is gone. School is going to be rather awkward tomorrow...

Why the HELL do you want Mooch? That guy might have 3 more brain cells than Mike Tice, if that.

[KillerGremlin]

Speaking of Mike Tice, I feel sorry for the guy. He did a pretty good job fixing a horrible season. I hope they fire Culpepper.

[Bond]

Why the HELL do you want Mooch? That guy might have 3 more brain cells than Mike Tice, if that.
I want him as offensive coordinator to keep Favre around for at least another year.

[Krypton]

I want him as offensive coordinator to keep Favre around for at least another year.

Steve Mariucci is a flabbergaster.