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Acebot44
01-18-2005, 05:20 PM
Here is a leaked document on the Michael Jackson case which I found on another forum. I do not have an exact source but you can search online or go to thesmokinggun.com if you want some kind of credibilty. What do you guys think of this?
Although evidence in the Michael Jackson child-molestation case has been kept closely guarded, a story posted Thursday on the Web site The Smoking Gun, which the site claims is based on leaked affidavits, paints a lurid picture of alleged details of the case.

The details include: that Jackson allegedly plied his then-13-year-old accuser with "wine, tequila and Skyy vodka" several times; that police allegedly found a stash of pornography in Jackson's bedroom, as well as whiskey and wine in the singer's bathroom; and that the boy allegedly told police that he was "kinda drunk" the first time the singer touched him during a "lesson" in masturbation.

The story states that the case is built largely on the memories of the accuser, his mother, sister and younger brother, who is now 14. Their descriptions of details in Jackson's house — from the combination on the lock of the singer's bedroom door to the location of his multiple pornography caches — and largely consistent stories of the alleged abuses spurred the November 2003 raid on Jackson's Neverland Ranch.

The allegations in the documents reportedly range from tales of the 46-year-old pop star making obscene prank calls from his private plane to more serious accusations: that Jackson licked the head of the accuser as he slept, and that the singer allegedly told the accuser and his brother that "boys have to masturbate or they go crazy."

Jackson has pleaded not guilty to the charges of child molestation and supplying an intoxicating agent. Jury selection in the case is slated for late January.

The boys are said to have told investigators that, as his 3-year-old son Prince Michael II (a.k.a. "Blanket") lay sleeping nearby, Jackson allegedly taught the teens how to surf pornographic Web sites on his laptop computer, saying that his son was "missing out" on the images. If asked what they had seen, Jackson reportedly told the teens to say they had been watching "The Simpsons" and that the activities were their "little secret," not to be disclosed to anyone, even if a gun was put to their heads.

According to The Smoking Gun, prosecutors claim in the documents that it wasn't until after the February 3, 2003, airing of Martin Bashir's "Living With Michael Jackson" documentary — which drew immediate fire due to Jackson's statements about sharing his bed with unrelated children — that Jackson began molesting his accuser, providing him with alcohol and allegedly imprisoning the boy and his family at Neverland.

At the time, Jackson is said to have told the family he was concerned for their safety and flew them to a luxury resort in Miami on comedian Chris Tucker's jet, according to the statements. It was in Miami that Jackson is said to have first provided the boy with wine — which he reportedly called "Jesus juice" — concealed in a Diet Coke can.

The family told investigators that upon returning to Neverland from Miami, they were not allowed to leave the ranch until they filmed a rebuttal to Bashir's documentary, and that an unindicted co-conspirator in the case allegedly told the mother that if she went to police he would "make the kids disappear."

However, when the Department of Children and Family Services interviewed the family a week after the documentary aired — spurred by a call from an official with the Los Angeles Unified School District — the mother reportedly played the investigator innocuous video of Jackson with the accuser strolling around Neverland and said the singer was "like a father" to her children, a phrase the siblings repeated to investigators.

The Smoking Gun story reports that law-enforcement documents reveal that the family denied any allegations of abuse until the mother hired a lawyer in mid-2003. It also states that Jackson's defense told authorities that the family's story is inconsistent, as the family claimed the plot to silence them began two weeks before the first incident of molestation is alleged to have occurred.

The Smoking Gun also posted a list of evidence allegedly seized during the Neverland raid, including four "Barely Legal" porn DVDs; the documentary "Pimps Up, Ho's Down"; a photo of the accuser on the nightstand near Jackson's bed; and a copy of fashion photographer Bruce Weber's book "The Chop Suey Club," which features photos of naked and near-naked male models. Also reportedly seized were a pair of white boys' Hanes underwear from the bathroom of Jackson's 6-year-old daughter, Paris Jackson; the same brand of underwear worn by the accuser.

And, based on information supplied by the accuser's younger brother, police reportedly found a black Samsonite suitcase with Playboy and Hustler magazines in a closet below Jackson's two-story bedroom.

According to The Smoking Gun, the brothers were interviewed separately by police detectives and gave similar accounts of what they saw or experienced in Jackson's home. The younger brother is alleged to have told police that he saw Jackson molesting his sleeping brother at least twice from a vantage point on the steps outside Jackson's bedroom; investigators are reported to have verified that the location would have offered a view into the bedroom.

The mother of the boys — whom Jackson allegedly nicknamed "Doo Doo Head" and "Blowhole" — is said to have kept quiet about the singer licking her son's head on the plane because, she told investigators, she "thought at the moment she was seeing things."

The story also said that the boys' recounting of events is occasionally vague because they claim they cannot remember dates or times when the alleged abuse and inappropriate behavior occurred, because there were no calendars or clocks at Neverland.

However, the entrance to Neverland features a huge clock made from shrubs, and Jackson is reported to have given the accuser a watch with a calendar function. The watch was one of several gifts the singer gave to the child, which also included an Apple laptop computer, video-game systems and a white Ford Bronco to shuttle him to his medical appointments.

Representatives for Michael Jackson had not returned calls for comment at press time.

For full coverage of the Michael Jackson case, see "Michael Jackson Accused."

— Gil Kaufman

More Details (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html)

Crash
01-18-2005, 05:24 PM
yeah, i read this last week... it's all bupkis.... he's a cool guy (although I'd never wanna meet him... weirdo)

Acebot44
01-18-2005, 05:27 PM
he's a cool guy (although I'd never wanna meet him... weirdo)
I feel the same..

Typhoid
01-18-2005, 05:42 PM
I hate Michael Jackson.

Seriously.


What is wrong with him? Not in the molesting sense...but the mental capacity.

He was a cute little black boy, and he grew into a hideous looking white woman.

And he wont even admit he got the surgery done. Thats what really makes me laugh.

Like people just magically turn white (or black) overnight.

Maybe he got some sort of disguise kit, including detachable nose. (lame? Yes? Thought so)

I couldn't care less if he molests kids, it sounds bad, but lots of people do it, its not like a new phenomenon or anything like that, I just hate how he wont admit he got the surgery done. Do you know how many people would stop making fun of him after he admits it. The only reason its funny is because he says nothing happened.

As a comedian said:

"Michael Has that thing that makes black people turn white...whats it called again?....Oh....right, Money."

Stray_Bullet
01-18-2005, 06:00 PM
I hate Michael Jackson.
Said the Media's tool.

Typhoid
01-18-2005, 06:19 PM
Said the Media's tool.


Sorry, I forgot I cant hate people.

And as soon as I dont like someone who is widely not liked I am a media tool.


Tell me, Do you hate Hitler? Sadaam? Bin Laden?

Because by your "logic" by hating any one of these widely hated, and media hated people, you are a media tool.

GameMaster
01-18-2005, 07:18 PM
I like to believe that he's innocent but I'm just an eternal optimist. :(

Regardless, I still enjoy his music.

DimHalo
01-19-2005, 01:17 AM
I liked his stuff from the '80s. I still do. Regardless of what he may, or may not, have done.

Happydude
01-19-2005, 01:26 AM
yeah, his music is good...the rest of him is....well...disturbing.

Seth
01-19-2005, 02:31 AM
I wonder if his wanker is white.

Stray_Bullet
01-19-2005, 08:22 AM
Sorry, I forgot I cant hate people.

And as soon as I dont like someone who is widely not liked I am a media tool.


Tell me, Do you hate Hitler? Sadaam? Bin Laden?

Because by your "logic" by hating any one of these widely hated, and media hated people, you are a media tool.

It learns! Hey, everybody, it learns!

...

But you did misunderstand one thing:
I claimed you disliked him because you are a tool of the media. I did not mean to imply that you were a tool only because you hate Michael Jackson. That'd be ridiculous. There's a lot more to you than just that.

But, yes... given that you don't know Michael Jackson, Sadaam, or Bin Laden firsthand... a good portion of the rage or hate you have against them was inspired by the media's negative image of them. However, in Sadaam and Bin Laden's cases, they've not only been bashed due to their fashion sense, plastic surgery, questionable sexuality, color of their skin (and oh how it changes), and mental capacity... but they've also killed many innocents. So, there is some leniency, despite the weight that the media gives to hating them.

Su-Yin
01-19-2005, 09:23 AM
I wonder if his wanker is white.

:Puke: thats a very very.....distrubing thought....the idea that you actually wonder....

Canyarion
01-19-2005, 11:29 AM
Bah, he's a zombie, and an ugly one too. If he really did it, he should be locked up for ever. :)

DimHalo
01-19-2005, 11:36 AM
Bah, he's a zombie, and an ugly one too. If he really did it, he should be locked up for ever. :)


As long as you don't think he should be executed.

Typhoid
01-19-2005, 11:39 AM
It learns! Hey, everybody, it learns!

...

But you did misunderstand one thing:
I claimed you disliked him because you are a tool of the media. I did not mean to imply that you were a tool only because you hate Michael Jackson. That'd be ridiculous. There's a lot more to you than just that.

But, yes... given that you don't know Michael Jackson, Sadaam, or Bin Laden firsthand... a good portion of the rage or hate you have against them was inspired by the media's negative image of them. However, in Sadaam and Bin Laden's cases, they've not only been bashed due to their fashion sense, plastic surgery, questionable sexuality, color of their skin (and oh how it changes), and mental capacity... but they've also killed many innocents. So, there is some leniency, despite the weight that the media gives to hating them.




Do you feel about child molesters as you do murderers?

I do.

Therefore one can conclude that Michael Jackson, is a horrible horrible man because of his child molesting.

Just as one can say Hitler and Sadaam are horrible for killing innocents.

Molesting children is right up there with taking lives.





And yeah....Seth....that was.....really.....Gamemaster-ish.