Horror Movie Month (My Name is Bruce)

[Swan]

You mean hijinx right?

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by Combine 017

There is no third one!
Only 1, 2 and 4.

There is no 4 either. Only 1 and 2.

[Combine 017]

Nah I liked the fourth one, but it was more so action than horror.

[Angrist]

4 was a blasphemy, worse than 3. It was close to a parody on the Alien series, with people re-using quotes and making silly jokes.
Also, it ended like a sequel was only months away, but it never came. We want to see Earth.

[KillerGremlin]

Alien 3 is not a horrible. It just falls incredibly short compared to 1 and 2.

[Angrist]

Did you see the special edition of Alien³? It's much longer. I think it might be better.

[Dylflon]

Just got back from Paranormal Activity.

I've never been so anxious while watching a movie. Good scares, good suspense, good film.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Just got back from Paranormal Activity.

I've never been so anxious while watching a movie. Good scares, good suspense, good film.

Spoiler question (for Dylflon):

When do you think she was first possessed? When she first got out of bed and stood there for several hours before going downstairs?

The movie really foreshadowed a lot of events, reflecting on certain things that happened.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Spoiler question (for Dylflon):

When do you think she was first possessed? When she first got out of bed and stood there for several hours before going downstairs?

The movie really foreshadowed a lot of events, reflecting on certain things that happened.

Spoiler answer:

I figure she was possessed at that point. God damn that was creepy. I think the last scene is going to give me trouble sleeping.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Spoiler answer:

I figure she was possessed at that point. God damn that was creepy. I think the last scene is going to give me trouble sleeping.

Yeah it did that to me, haha. The movie apparently changed the ending a little....apparently the other cut goes like this:

So she still gets out of bed and stands there for a few hours...then goes downstairs. And she screams. And Mica goes down. So then we hear some noises, and then silence....and then she comes up the stairs covered in blood holding a knife. She stands there in the room and the camera shows several days lapse. During this time worried phone messages can be heard in the background. So finally one of her friend's rings the doorbell or something, and I guess she goes down and kills the friend? So we get her back on camera covered in blood in her trance in the bedroom, and I guess the cops finally show up. The cops find her in her trance upstairs, and she freaks out and they shoot her. And I guess the screen fades to black and we can hear the demon and the cops.

That's what I heard anyway. Both endings are pretty awesome IMO. I remember when my dad showed me Poltergeist in like 2nd grade I had trouble sleeping for a week or two. And the first time I saw A Nightmare On Elm Street back in like 3rd or 4th grade...that disrupted my sleep too.

[The Germanator]

I can't believe you guys liked that film. I just watched Paranormal Activity, and what a piece of shit. If that was a well edited 6 minute youtube clip, I would have respected it, but for pretty much nothing to happen for all that time, it's a waste. That's not a film. Certainly would've worked better as pornography.

Paramount Pictures scammed everyone. The filmmakers made it for $15,000. Paramount buys it for $1 million. Box office gross is over $100 million. Sure, they spent a dickload on marketing, but still, what a scam.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

I can't believe you guys liked that film. I just watched Paranormal Activity, and what a piece of shit.

I had a coworker come in the other day with the exact same reaction. He said it was terrible. What causes such polarity on a movie like this? The same thing happened with Blair Witch.

I think the polarity is caused by expectations. Sometimes you go into a movie expecting something, usually seeded into your brain by the trailer. But when you actually see the movie, not only does it not give you what you expected, you get the exact opposite and so your reaction is that the movie is terrible because it didn't give you what you were wanting. This phenomenon coincides with the fact that you often choose the movie you're watching based on what you want to watch. If you choose an action movie, but then to your total surprise, you get a love drama, you're likely to hate the movie even if it's the best love drama ever. It's just expectations. This has happened to me before.

In this case, I guess you expected a more typical horror movie, and when you didn't get that it polarized you to the I hate this movie side. Despite the general consensus that this is one of the creepiest films ever, and at the very least if not a great film then certainly not a total "piece of shit".

Or you just didn't like it

If that was a well edited 6 minute youtube clip, I would have respected it, but for pretty much nothing to happen for all that time, it's a waste. That's not a film. Certainly would've worked better as pornography.

Paramount Pictures scammed everyone. The filmmakers made it for $15,000. Paramount buys it for $1 million. Box office gross is over $100 million. Sure, they spent a dickload on marketing, but still, what a scam.

I completely disagree. I judge a horror movie based on how creepy, frightening, disturbing it is -- the best of which leave me mentally disturbed for days after watching -- not on how much "happened". And, on that criteria, this is the best horror movie I have seen in a long time. To me, the most frightening moments on film are what they don't show you and what they don't explain. Your own imagination creates the most frightening images to fill in the blanks. This movie knows that.

It still creeps me out sometimes when I'm walking around my house at night in the dark.

That isn't to say I don't like some other movies that follow the more typical formula of story arc and spooky/gory things popping out or happening. But the good ones like that are like 1 in a 100, for me.

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by manasecret

I had a coworker come in the other day with the exact same reaction. He said it was terrible. What causes such polarity on a movie like this? The same thing happened with Blair Witch.

I think the polarity is caused by expectations. Sometimes you go into a movie expecting something, usually seeded into your brain by the trailer. But when you actually see the movie, not only does it not give you what you expected, you get the exact opposite and so your reaction is that the movie is terrible because it didn't give you what you were wanting. This phenomenon coincides with the fact that you often choose the movie you're watching based on what you want to watch. If you choose an action movie, but then to your total surprise, you get a love drama, you're likely to hate the movie even if it's the best love drama ever. It's just expectations. This has happened to me before.

In this case, I guess you expected a more typical horror movie, and when you didn't get that it polarized you to the I hate this movie side. Despite the general consensus that this is one of the creepiest films ever, and at the very least if not a great film then certainly not a total "piece of shit".

Or you just didn't like it

I completely disagree. I judge a horror movie based on how creepy, frightening, disturbing it is -- the best of which leave me mentally disturbed for days after watching -- not on how much "happened". And, on that criteria, this is the best horror movie I have seen in a long time. To me, the most frightening moments on film are what they don't show you and what they don't explain. Your own imagination creates the most frightening images to fill in the blanks. This movie knows that.

It still creeps me out sometimes when I'm walking around my house at night in the dark.

That isn't to say I don't like some other movies that follow the more typical formula of story arc and spooky/gory things popping out or happening. But the good ones like that are like 1 in a 100, for me.

I agree with you a lot about expectations. I had similar feelings about Blair Witch Project when it first came out, but after watching Paranormal Activity, Blair Witch Project looks like a masterpiece to me again. The thing is, I did know what I was expecting. I knew I was getting a film made for $11,000 by amateurs, and I was curious how they'd go about it. Color me not impressed.

I'm not sure I agree with you in terms of what I was expecting though. I was expecting to be scared, creeped out, terrified, etc. Those are the things I expect from a horror film. Instead I got poor acting and dull 20 minutes conversations in between doors closing and bed sheets moving. If the things that did happen in the film weren't that troubling, than how am I supposed to be disturbed by the things that I "can't see" or "don't happen?"

I agree with you that this is a different style of horror movie and I think this style of horror movie can work, it just didn't this time. Drag Me To Hell was a far better horror movie, I don't care what style. It was genuinely scarier and more fun to watch. Also, I just watched "Coraline" a couple nights ago and parts of that were much scarier than anything in Paranormal Activity.

I think the horror genre is the most difficult to make a good film out of. I feel like there may be less than 30 or 20 great horror films ever made, and I appreciate the direction that the Paranormal Activity people went, but just because it's somewhat original doesn't mean it's any good.

[BreakABone]

I understand what Mana is saying, but I still think it was a terrible horror movie, but I do understand how it worked with some people.

Or at least I think I do, much like the Blair Witch, I think people create a scenario in their head in which this could happen to them. I mean I never expect Freddy or Jason to pop up, but for weird unexplainable things to happen in your home... I'm sure that happens to us all.

I'm sure there are people who started hearing voices and footprints after this movie because it can work on that level, but watching it... I just felt they talked too much.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

I agree with you a lot about expectations. I had similar feelings about Blair Witch Project when it first came out, but after watching Paranormal Activity, Blair Witch Project looks like a masterpiece to me again. The thing is, I did know what I was expecting. I knew I was getting a film made for $11,000 by amateurs, and I was curious how they'd go about it. Color me not impressed.

Wait, does that mean you did or didn't like Blair Witch? I liked it. And I'm going to out myself here -- while I had my doubts, I bought into the hype before I saw it and after seeing it, I believed it to be a true story. I remember thinking that the utter fear in that girl's later moments in the film to be beyond acting. How gullible I was...

I'm not sure I agree with you in terms of what I was expecting though. I was expecting to be scared, creeped out, terrified, etc. Those are the things I expect from a horror film. Instead I got poor acting and dull 20 minutes conversations in between doors closing and bed sheets moving. If the things that did happen in the film weren't that troubling, than how am I supposed to be disturbed by the things that I "can't see" or "don't happen?"

Sorry if I put words into your mouth, I was just trying to figure out what scenario might have polarized you (or someone else) on the film. And I see what you're saying. If you don't buy into the story, there is very little else in the movie to like. However, if you do buy into the story, then the fear instilled in your imagination is, in my opinion, some of the best.

As an aside, after I wrote that commonly held belief "the scariest things are what you don't see", I thought about taking that to the extreme. Imagine a film of just an empty room and nothing else. No characters, no explanation, nothing. Not scary at all. Of course, someone might randomly imagine something spooky going on in the room, but far many more would imagine nothing spooky if anything at all. I guess the "nothing is more" only works if the film makers are able to point your imagination in the right direction, through the plot and sight and sound. And if they are unable to do that with the viewer, then you're left in the empty room scenario. Your imagination doesn't fill in the blinks with anything spooky, and the film falls flat. It's like Todo came in and you're left with "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

I agree with you that this is a different style of horror movie and I think this style of horror movie can work, it just didn't this time. Drag Me To Hell was a far better horror movie, I don't care what style. It was genuinely scarier and more fun to watch. Also, I just watched "Coraline" a couple nights ago and parts of that were much scarier than anything in Paranormal Activity.

I just saw Drag Me To Hell, and I liked it a lot. But I found very little of it scary, probably the scariest part with the Gypsy old lady first lunging at the banker. But I think that comes down to me finding any of Sam Raimi's horror scenes in any movie more campy and funny than scary, because I love Army of Darkness so much. He uses the same style so I end up just laughing through the scary scenes.

Remember the Doctor Octopus tentacle scene in Spider Man 2? It was a genuinely creepy scene, but I remember laughing out loud in the theater all throughout because it's the exact same style he uses in his Evil Dead series, with the camera controlled by the tentacle in Spider Man and controlled by the trees/etc. in Evil Dead.

I also agree Coraline had some very creepy scenes.

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Or at least I think I do, much like the Blair Witch, I think people create a scenario in their head in which this could happen to them. I mean I never expect Freddy or Jason to pop up, but for weird unexplainable things to happen in your home... I'm sure that happens to us all.

I think you make a good point here. Both Paranormal and Blair Witch take place in areas most people are in often if not daily, just normal regular places. So you can easily imagine the events as if they were happening to you. And the mockumentary, barebones style adds to that illusion, that this could be you.

But I never imagined footprints or weird noises. Coming from Paranormal Activity, the scariest thing for me to think about is what happens or could happen when you are asleep and no one is there to notice. What if you woke up one night to find your girlfriend/boyfriend standing over you silently? If you set up a camera watching you sleep, what strange things might you catch?