Bonds used steriods

The Germanator · 12-03-2004, 12:22 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

I believe that this completley taints the game and any of the records that Bonds has acheived over these last few years. There should definitely be an asterisk by Bonds' name in the record book, and his Hall of Fame eligibility should be looked out very closely.

I think the more troublesome part is that it's not just Bonds. Some estimate that 50% of all players use steroids, and that just isn't right. It's a bad day for baseball.

dropCGCF · 12-03-2004, 02:08 PM

Thnaks for the generally accepted for 5 years "news".

But Giambi? Holy crap, who saw that coming?

GameMaster · 12-03-2004, 03:35 PM

Do you think Barry is telling the truth when he says he didn't know it was steroids?

Blackmane · 12-03-2004, 04:03 PM

Its hard to say whether or not he knew. For all we know, he could have not known it was steroids. But, that seems a little fishy.

Typhoid · 12-03-2004, 04:22 PM

OH MY GOD!!

BONDS DID STEROIDS!?!?

GameMaster · 12-03-2004, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

Its hard to say whether or not he knew. For all we know, he could have not known it was steroids. But, that seems a little fishy.

Well he didn't take it directly. It was given to him by his trainer. The article says he thought it was arthritis relief and something else too. So you also have to wonder where the trainer got it and whether he knew the truth or not.

Typhoid · 12-03-2004, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Well he didn't take it directly. It was given to him by his trainer. The article says he thought it was arthritis relief and something else too. So you also have to wonder where the trainer got it and whether he knew the truth or not.

But thats almost like me getting a gun from my neighbour, shooting someone, and saying that I didnt know it was a real gun, that i thought ti was a toy.

Regardless of what you think, your still guilty.

Perfect Stu · 12-03-2004, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Do you think Barry is telling the truth when he says he didn't know it was steroids?

Yep. See, the only reason he kept taking them is because he had so much damn respect for his trainer...it had nothing to do with the fact that it altered his game, enhancing his play, strength, and head size to unnatural proportions.

HELL NO, the man lied.

Jason1 · 12-03-2004, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

Yep. See, the only reason he kept taking them is because he had so much damn respect for his trainer...it had nothing to do with the fact that it altered his game, enhancing his play, strength, and head size to unnatural proportions.

HELL NO, the man lied.

Wow, for a second there I thought you were serious...I was so ready to start a huge argument about that one...

Anyways, I think this is actually more of a good day for baseball...this will help to make it sure no more players use steroids anymore.

Isnt Bond's trainer going to come on TV and list names that he's sold steroids to or something like this?

Joeiss · 12-03-2004, 11:40 PM

There is more scientifical evidence at the moment that suggests performance enhancing drugs do not enhance a player's ability to hit the ball.

Perfect Stu · 12-04-2004, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

There is more scientifical evidence at the moment that suggests performance enhancing drugs do not enhance a player's ability to hit the ball.

so?

Barry Bonds is a great baseball player. He's been able to hit the ball his entire life. Everyone knows that.

Over the past few years, he's been able to mis-hit the ball and have it fly 400 feet into the cove. OHHH!!!! That's where the 'performance enhancing drugs' kick in...

If one of us were to take the drugs, it wouldnt help our game much. We still wouldnt be able to hit a 95 mph fastball...but it certainly helps the guys who CAN connect.

Blackmane · 12-04-2004, 04:51 PM

According to the article, the trainer told Barry that the steroids were something to help him perform better. So, why should he have questioned the fact that he was performing better? He could have just thought that it was doing it's job.

Has Barry been tested before for drug use?

jeepnut · 12-04-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

According to the article, the trainer told Barry that the steroids were something to help him perform better. So, why should he have questioned the fact that he was performing better? He could have just thought that it was doing it's job.

Has Barry been tested before for drug use?

If I remember correctly, testing is not required by MLB.

Joeiss · 12-04-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut

If I remember correctly, testing is not required by MLB.

Incorrect. MLB holds "random" drug tests. However, the randomness is hardly random at all, usually the tests are done during the preseason and the preseason only. But, I think Bonds tested negative on a test during September one year, but I forget.

jeepnut · 12-04-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

Incorrect. MLB holds "random" drug tests. However, the randomness is hardly random at all, usually the tests are done during the preseason and the preseason only. But, I think Bonds tested negative on a test during September one year, but I forget.

Well, there you have it then. Never underestimate the power of false information to draw out the truth!