GameTavern's Election '04 Coverage

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Gays/Lesbians are no different then us then in their sexual preference.

Some people are in prison now for their 'different' sexual prefrences. And it was in situations where they both wanted to have sex, both understood what sex is, and both understand what marriage is... and in some cases would have married each other if there wasn't already a law against it.

The question here is about where we draw the line between freedom and what is immoral. I'm not saying two adult men getting married is any worse than a 45 year old and a 15 year old getting married, but it does point us in the direction of more freedom that isn't moral.

Think about TV... went from being able to say crap, to bitch, to ****, and soon enough we'll be hearing the F word on TV that kids have access to. You can see the difference in how people dress on TV too... I'm sure a time will come where a certain amount of nudity will be allowed (compared to the 60's we are past that :P), and it will progressivly get worse and worse. (I think an old epidsode of the simpsons put it best, they were in the future and Fox had hardcore porn on lol)

In my opinion, if you want to be gay, be gay, but don't expect it to be protected by the law any time soon. I think it will be eventually, but I also think this country is going straight to hell.

And I'm not going to lie, I'm not Jesus myself... I do immoral things, but still, i recognize its immoral, and shouldn't be protectable by law, and I'd vote against others doing it.

Also, sorry for butchering the thread

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

I'm not saying they are different. I'm not saying I agree with the fact that most people in the bible belt are hotly aganst gay marriage. What I'm saying is that those people VOTE. If you don't open the lines of communication with them or attempt comprimise with them, you'll lose every election.

They're not going away, but the democratic seats in Congress might be if they don't start coming back to the middle and recognizing some of these social/moral issues.

I completley agree. And what do religious people do more often than others? BREED. Yes, so their kids will be raised in a similar environment, and will more than likely to vote and believe the same things as well. So not only will this issue not go away, the people who do believe are being constantly outnumbered and will continue to be. The Democrats really need to reach out to these people somehow, even if it means giving up thier own beliefs I guess...That's politics.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

I completley agree. And what do religious people do more often than others? BREED. Yes, so their kids will be raised in a similar environment, and will more than likely to vote and believe the same things as well. So not only will this issue not go away, the people who do believe are being constantly outnumbered and will continue to be. The Democrats really need to reach out to these people somehow, even if it means giving up thier own beliefs I guess...That's politics.

I agree.

But, this is their country just like it is ours. We all decide what happens here. If a Democrat wants to make it back in office, they have to drop support for what the majority of their followers don't support.

If they support it regardless of what the majority of the population thinks, they are not going to get put in office in the first place. Its common sense. Democrats better hope Bush does an AWFUL job in the next 4 years, because the fact of the matter is: as long as they continue to fight for what us as americans don't want, they won't ever win.

Its going to take some very poor preformance on the part of repliblicans or democrats becoming more conservative before we will see another democratic president. Orrrr the young vote turn out is going to have to get bigger, and they have to be wildly different from the older generations. (As you pointed out, won't likely be the case.)

[Jonbo298]

Wait...so your telling me that to gain votes I have to change my view on same-sex marriage and say it should be outlawed? Sorry but I'm not doing that if I became a politician.

[Ace195]

Jon personally, I wouldn't vote for you. You just don't look like a trustworth fellow.. Lose the beard cut the hair and maybe..

[Acebot44]

^ You mean part it from the left?

[Canyarion]

Wait wait wait.... I just discovered something stunning.... perhaps some people already noticed: ACE1965 AND ACEBOT44 ARE DIFFERENT MEMBERS!!!

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

Wait wait wait.... I just discovered something stunning.... perhaps some people already noticed: ACE1965 AND ACEBOT44 ARE DIFFERENT MEMBERS!!!

1) You didnt know that?
2) Thanks for sharing.
3) You spelled his name wrong.

[DimHalo]

New Forum now?

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

1) You didnt know that?
2) Thanks for sharing.
3) You spelled his name wrong.

1) I think he's kidding.
2) Shut up.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

1) I think he's kidding.
2) Shut up.

1) I know
2) Why is it always you...the person who is my friend...telling me to shut up before anyone else?

[Dylflon]

I like telling people to shut up. It's nice and blunt.

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

I like telling people to shut up. It's nice and blunt.

We've got ourselves a regular Bill O'Reilly over here...

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

We've got ourselves a regular Bill O'Reilly over here...

Pssst...I was kidding/covering my tracks for giving Typhoid a hard time.

I do give him a hard time...because I care.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Pssst...I was kidding/covering my tracks for giving Typhoid a hard time.

I do give him a hard time...because I care.

Awwwww,.......muffin.


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