Big Info From Matt

[Canyarion]

Well you gotta remember that it's hard to both give Metroid a cool story AND keep the same feel of the game.

Cause if you need more story, you probably need more characters. And that's impossible for Samus, since she HAS TO BE ALONE to keep it a Metroid game.

I think Retro Studios did a great job with the story.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

*thinks of the Kazaa userbase*

No wonder Metroid Prime sold so well...

Metriod Prime sold well?!?! Or are you being sarcastic?

You are right though, it is a matter of opinion... so I'll let you take the last word here because it won't go anywhere

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Metriod Prime sold well?!?! Or are you being sarcastic?

You are right though, it is a matter of opinion... so I'll let you take the last word here because it won't go anywhere

I don't think it is a matter of opinion. At last count it was the 38'th best selling game of this generation with 1,068,328 copies sold.

So yes, it did sell well, even if you didn't like it.

[TheGame]

Interesting you say that... the 2nd highest rated game this generation got 38th on the sales charts. ( http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...pleratings.asp)

(if you don't want to count GTA: DP, it's the highest rated game)

Not to mention it was given away for free with GCN for a period of time (and I hope there weren't too many crazy enough to pick Mario Party or RE over it, which would make Metroid look even worse)... that's a big dissapointment if you ask me.

I mean, at least 36 lower rated games outsold it... :eek:

[thatmariolover]

Your arguement is relative. Regardless of it not selling as nearly as well as it should have, it still sold well.

[TheGame]

(I knew we would argue again one day )

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Your arguement is relative. Regardless of it not selling as nearly as well as it should have, it still sold well.

That depends on what you mean by selling well. I mean, if Michael Jackson sales one million CDs it's a huge dissapointment... but if I sell one million CDs out of my undergroungd label (which I don't have ) it would be a huge success.

In other words, it may have 'sold well' to be a Game in general, but it didn't sell well to be a game that got such high marks.

I mean, to be the out-right best rated game this generation (cept for GTAP), that is a big dissapointment.

[Jason1]

I dont think The game's arguement holds up. Saying a game didnt sell as well as it "should have" is kinda stupid in my mind. Whos to say how well a game should or shouldnt sell? I mean theres plenty of other very high rated games on any platform that just wont sell very well because the General Public dosent pay attention to ratings. And it works the other way too. A game like the Matrix shouldnt have sold near as well is it did. It was a crappy game. But because of that oh so popular matrix liscense, it sold through the roof. Besides that Nintendo's brand names just dont have quite the influence they used to. A million copies is still a helluva lot any way you look at it. Dont know why im arguing over this though. Anyone whos played it(and has any real taste at all in games) will know its a great game.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

The preview for the next issue of PSM (that was in the latest issue of PSM that I got yesterday) said they have a big sequel shocker that's going to be their cover game next month...

Maybe the big news is that RE4 isn't exclusive anymore

It's probably something more like Ico 2 or something, but hey I can add to the mountain of hype and speculation can't I?

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that the RE games aren't going to be exclusive anymore. I dunno though.

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that the RE games aren't going to be exclusive anymore. I dunno though.

They only had a deal for the remake, RE0, and RE4... So past RE4 they were never supposed to be exclusive, but there have been rumors that not even RE4 will be exclusive, though Capcom has denied those rumors, I think...

But companies always deny or don't comment on rumors...

But I doubt RE4 will be on PS2... Maybe the surprise sequel is RE5 which they're working on before RE4 even comes out

[BigJustinW]

Originally Posted by Jason1

I dont think The game's arguement holds up. Saying a game didnt sell as well as it "should have" is kinda stupid in my mind. Whos to say how well a game should or shouldnt sell? I mean theres plenty of other very high rated games on any platform that just wont sell very well because the General Public dosent pay attention to ratings.[/b]

Metriod is the highest, not just high... plus it was being given away for free. Also, Metriod is a huge licence in the gaming industry.

Also, according to your logic I have no tastes in games because it took me giving Metriod 3 chances for that game to make me crack a smile. I rented it... PURCHASED it (free with GCN... and I completly dispised this game. I rented it again, got a little farter in (forced myself to, because I still hate the first section of the game) then I started to enjoy it.

I believe that anybody who liked Metriod forced themselves to platy further, and the game didn't automatically draw the person in. The only reason I gave metriod that many chances is because of the rating... if I didn't pay attention to ratings I would have blown that game off as crap very fast.

With that said, I don't think that it had dissapointing sales, I think it's just simply over-rated. I accept it as one of two things, a high rated game with disapointing sales, or a over rated game with good sales.

Oh, and on a side note, you can't use my logic in reverse with a game like Matrix. The sales don't set the bar for how good the game should be, the game sets the bar for how good the sales should be. It's a good thing for something to preform past it's expectations, it's a bad thing for great work (if you see it as that) to go un-noticed.

[Null]

Originally Posted by BigJustinW

Metriod is the highest, not just high... plus it was being given away for free. Also, Metriod is a huge licence in the gaming industry.

Also, according to your logic I have no tastes in games because it took me giving Metriod 3 chances for that game to make me crack a smile. I rented it... PURCHASED it (free with GCN... and I completly dispised this game. I rented it again, got a little farter in (forced myself to, because I still hate the first section of the game) then I started to enjoy it.

I believe that anybody who liked Metriod forced themselves to platy further, and the game didn't automatically draw the person in. The only reason I gave metriod that many chances is because of the rating... if I didn't pay attention to ratings I would have blown that game off as crap very fast.

With that said, I don't think that it had dissapointing sales, I think it's just simply over-rated. I accept it as one of two things, a high rated game with disapointing sales, or a over rated game with good sales.

Oh, and on a side note, you can't use my logic in reverse with a game like Matrix. The sales don't set the bar for how good the game should be, the game sets the bar for how good the sales should be. It's a good thing for something to preform past it's expectations, it's a bad thing for great work (if you see it as that) to go un-noticed.

*whispers to Game......psssst, when talking about taste, best not to mention a game like matrix


on a side note, we're not getting into an argument with that game now, im just messin with ya.

[Crash]

i had to force myself to play final fantasy 7 for two hours before enjoying it.... it is now my favorite game of all time. i like games like that, at first you dont like playing em cause they are different, but then later you realize that different is sooo much better than being the same as everything else.

[GameKinG]

I had never played a metroid game prior to metroid prime, nor do I hold scores in high regard. The game instantly enthralled me. I just got stuck, and I try not to use guides, but I gave in.

Though, I think not having a Metroid game in years was a large result of less sales, not to mention Japan never really jumped on the metroid boat. Nintendo's games just dont sell as much as last gen. Zelda OOT sold 7+ million last gen, mario 64 sold 9+ million. Yet this gen, both have sold 2+ million (each, not combined).

The number of systems in comparison to N64 at an equal time in both console's life spans is still similar. The attach rate must be less, or they must be buying more 3rd party games (somewhat bitter-sweet)

in reply to RE4 exclusiveness, the deal ends after RE4 (at least if no new deal is made). Now, just cause the deal ends doesnt mean the exclusiveness ends. RE4 will likely be exclusive for a good amount of time, but I easily see a port in some form later on. Killer 7, however, is supposedly going to be ported to PS2 also (though probably best if you can stick with the cube versiob).

in reply to MP low sales, yes, it is unfortunate that such a highly rated game be overlooked, when most, if not all other games in the top 10 for Gamerankings have done well on their own without a bundle. Hopefully, MP2 does better.

[Crash]

japanese just plain dont like first person games... halo or metroid

[Jason1]

If it took you that long to like MP, then yes, you do have ****ty tastes in games, The game. And its not overrated.