MGS4 - Page 6

Dyne · 08-10-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Just had to chime and say, holy fuckin shit what an awesome game.

Pretty much. I don't even know where to place it in my top 10. I'm going to have to think about it for a while and play it again.

bobcat · 08-10-2008, 05:18 AM

here here!

Dylflon · 08-21-2008, 01:14 PM

Finally got to play and beat it because Typhoid brought it over.

Two comments:

1. More like tactical movie watching action

2. Best game that doesn't let you play it that much

I have to say, it really lacked on the whole letting you play the game thing. I really do wish there was way more gameplay considering how many cinematics there were. I loved the movie sequences though and am happy that everything has been more or less explained. But in terms of a game that actually lets you play it, I'd have to call MGS3 the best in the series.

Dyne · 08-21-2008, 01:39 PM

Which difficulty did you play it on?

flunkie44 · 08-10-2008, 12:53 AM

Indeed.

uber_paddler · 08-21-2008, 09:12 PM

The Boss Extreme or bust, pussies.

DarkMaster · 11-06-2008, 12:25 AM

Ah, to experience MGS4 again for the first time. Soak it all in.

TheGame · 11-06-2008, 10:00 AM

MGS4 is amazing, though I'll admit its definently built for the MGS fans. I don't know how much the story would appeal to someone who hasn't at least played one of the previous 3 titles... espeecially MGS2.

uber_paddler · 02-13-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

MGS4 is amazing, though I'll admit its definently built for the MGS fans. I don't know how much the story would appeal to someone who hasn't at least played one of the previous 3 titles... espeecially MGS2.

Couldn't the same be said for ALL story driven game series?

TheGame · 02-14-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by uber_paddler

Couldn't the same be said for ALL story driven game series?

Nope, I played MG2 first and understood it just fine. Played MGS1 before MSX and understood it fine. Played MGS3, and could say that the story is so lightly related to the others that it could have been understood as a stand alone game too.

MGS4 is the first in the series in the Playstation ages that I think could not stand alone whatsoever.

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Another thing that's been bothering me about the story. Wasn't Cambell in the second one just a phantom of Raiden's imagination cobbled together from his own experiences and expectations of what the colonel should be and then transmitted from Arsenal gear, and didn't Snake and Octocon reveal that too him when he was naked in the arsenal gear jejenum or wherever? Raiden even said he'd never seen the colonel in real life and he's never addressed as Colonel Cambell.

Wasn't the whole point of him looking and talking like Cambell done on purpose to make the audience think it was Cambell so the twist at the end came as a bigger shock? I mean that seems like a pretty big hole to me that he turns up in the second one and Snake is talking to him like it was a familiar experience to the both of them. I mean if the colonel wasn't involved in the mission why would he even know who raiden was?

I think you have a misunderstanding, the colonel in raiden's mind was campbell. It was not just a play on visuals, Raiden directly asked him about his time working with snake and the colonel tries to ignore it. He was an AI version of the colonel who was implanted into raiden, who reacts according to Raiden's expectations to help control him.

Now, the reason campbell knows raiden is completly up in the air. That's a hole in the story.

capablemachine · 02-13-2009, 05:53 PM

Ok I'm a big Metal Gear fan, I played the original when I was a youngster back when it came out and then bought every subsequent game after that and usually whatever console it was on (twin snakes ugh!). I liked pretty much each one (bar twin snakes). However I have to say the MGS 4 was a big dissapointment for the following reason :-

- no decent character intereaction through the codec screen - Rosemary played no real signifigant part in the game - lack of humorous easter eggs - small play time - Act 3 : follow some idiot (boring) - faceless bosses - Drebin character very cleche and unecessary and over the top boss backstories - Buying lots of weapons adds no real value to the game - Act 4 : very short - Act 5 : very short (wouldn't it be good if you got to explore or actually do something on the ship) - Cut scenes too long, what kind of games has a save option between cutscenes? - Nonsensical jibberish storyline (sorry fellas but if you're swallowing liquid/ocelot hypnotising himself to fullfil some kind of role you've lost touch with reality) - Was a movie more than a game.

Aside from all that there was some really good points like the boss battles and the control system and the graphics. Anyway that's about it please rebut.

capablemachine · 02-13-2009, 06:53 PM

Another thing that's been bothering me about the story. Wasn't Cambell in the second one just a phantom of Raiden's imagination cobbled together from his own experiences and expectations of what the colonel should be and then transmitted from Arsenal gear, and didn't Snake and Octocon reveal that too him when he was naked in the arsenal gear jejenum or wherever? Raiden even said he'd never seen the colonel in real life and he's never addressed as Colonel Cambell.

Wasn't the whole point of him looking and talking like Cambell done on purpose to make the audience think it was Cambell so the twist at the end came as a bigger shock? I mean that seems like a pretty big hole to me that he turns up in the second one and Snake is talking to him like it was a familiar experience to the both of them. I mean if the colonel wasn't involved in the mission why would he even know who raiden was?

Zen · 02-13-2009, 11:51 PM

cm? nice... nice indeed :P

capablemachine · 02-14-2009, 03:04 AM

Oh hey Zen, hey what ever happened to mobile militia and all that crew and what do you think of MGS4? You don't even play games anymore do you

not even gunbound.

Zen · 02-15-2009, 01:09 PM

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Oh hey Zen, hey what ever happened to mobile militia and all that crew and what do you think of MGS4? You don't even play games anymore do you

not even gunbound.

Well owners just pretty much allowed it to die, no gracefulness, no hey where are you guys going topic, just BAM dead. KG is around here, I have no idea about the other..... 5 or so people :P. I havent played MGS4 yet and I'm dying to do so, however I cant afford a PS3 at the moment for various reasons and story that would go on for a while.