Star Wars *Spoilers* - Page 6

Bube · 05-27-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne

The clones were under control of the empire. The Jedi were able to fight alongside, because beforehand, they were WITH the empire.

But then the emporer turned everyone against the jedi, namely the clones. It's like the US government turning the Army/Navy/Airforce against the FBI, or something.

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

I can't believe I couldn't understand that.

DeathsHand · 05-27-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony

And as the senate went into hiding, Sideous gained supreme power over the Republic, making it a Imperialist kingdom, thus Empire.

The Senate didn't go into hiding... The Emperor needed them to help maintain control over some of the systems... In Episodes IV there are still talks of the senate...

"LEIA: I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a member of the
Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan..."

They talk about how the Rebellion will continue to gain support in the Senate, and then finally:

"TARKIN: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us.
I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council
permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept
away."

Professor S · 05-27-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony

Besides, the real story behind it is that it is supposed to show the form of which they are last a Jedi. And seeing as Anakin turned the darkside at a young age, it's almost validated to show that young Anakin in the end of Episode VI.

But if this is true, wouldn't Darth have been a Jedi or again be Anakin when he saved his son and destroyed the Emporer in Return of the Jedi? In tat case, he should be shown as an old man. In any case, I don't think the point was worth changing to begin with. Its just George wanting to constantly tinker with his original, far superior, works.

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If your a film purist, you should OWN the originals already and shouldn't have to worry about the remastered versions. But in any case, I understand your point of view. But for those who started on Episode I, it's better to see an Anakin you can recognize in Episode VI....

The original versions were never made available on DVD, only on VHS, and the last VHS releases before DVD were of his reworked versions. I did have them on VHS, but they are just about worn out. I would like them on DVD, but George does not want US to have them.

DeathsHand · 05-27-2005, 06:51 PM

Oh come now, Strangler, you know George Lucas will release an ultimate edition DVD box set once ROTS is out on DVD...

Featuring the originals, the special editions, the prequels, and the special edition remakes of the prequels that they were secretly working on all along....

And the christmas special...

Ginkasa · 05-27-2005, 07:26 PM

There probably won't be a big special 6 episode DVD release until 2007, the 30th anniversary of ANH. And it most certainly won't have the Holiday Special. Or the original versions. Or even the versions we have now. It will probably have a little bit more tinkering (say, digital Yoda replacing the puppet in I, V, and VI?0 and stuff.

Although you were probably being sarcastic...

/me shrugs and walks away

Canyarion · 05-30-2005, 04:34 AM

I finally saw it last saturday.

It was great. Made me want to instantly see 4-6 again. An almost perfect link between the trilogies.

Did you see the Millennium Falcon? I did, tried to show it to my g/f but I was too late. It's flying in when another ship comes to a planet.
Didn't notice George Lucas though.

What did you think of the opening scene? I thought it was perhaps a bit too intense. I had this feeling that it wasn't real, as if they would suddenly wake up and it was a dream. Probably had to do with the dialogs, which were also there very poor.
R2-D2 was cool, but a bit over the top? Suddenly he could use a cell phone (

), defeat robots, catch things, jump.. oh well.

Very cool film.

The way Anakin turned evil was pretty good, but how he SUDDENLY did everything Sidious asked was a bit fast.

Some people don't think that Storm Troopers are clones, but I think it's pretty obvious now.

Edit: I didn't like all the jokes by the droids. "Run for your life!" Yeah right.

I loved the lizard thing, he was cute. At first I thought he was pretty stupid, but then I loved him.

I can finally appreciate Haiden in the last scene of RotJ. At first I hated it, but now I've gotten used to Anakin in this form. I liked him in RotS.

I don't think Palpatine suddenly ages and became ugly, but he lost his ability to mask himself. Remember that you see the ugly Sidious in Ep. 1 and 2. Palpatine was just a form to hide his true identity. I think.

Ginkasa · 05-30-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion

Some people don't think that Storm Troopers are clones, but I think it's pretty obvious now.

Stormtroopers aren't clones. At least not all or even most of them (or even a large minority). What happened was that as the Empire spread, it became unnecessary to pay for all those expensive clones. So the Empire slowly began to replace their Clone Troopers with colunteers and conscripted soldiers.

The clones are just where they originated.

/me shrugs and walks away

Canyarion · 05-30-2005, 01:24 PM

Ooooooooooh ok. And how do you know this?

Blackmane · 05-30-2005, 01:32 PM

Because Han Solo was enlisted as a Stormtrooper before he became a smuggler.

Ginkasa · 05-30-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

Because Han Solo was enlisted as a Stormtrooper before he became a smuggler.

No, I think he was an Imperial pilot... I could be wrong, though. As to how I know it (the Clone/Storm Trooper thing)... I read it. TheForce.net (or from a link at TheForce.net). I think it was from an interview with George Lucas so...

/me shrugs and walks away

Dylflon · 05-30-2005, 08:56 PM

I read the Han Solo trilogy when I was in elementary school.

Don't remember the Imperial pilot thing but it rings a bell.

Ginkasa · 05-30-2005, 09:15 PM

From Star Wars: The New Essential Guide to Characters:

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...Solo enlisted in the Imperial Navy. For the next four years he trained at the Military Academy on Carida alongside such famous classmates as Soontir Fel and Mako SPince. He grauated at the top of his class and began service as a naval officer and TIE pilot.
While investigating a slaver freighter that had been carrying Wookiee slaves, Lieutenant Solo refused to kill the sole survivor when ordered to do so by his superior officer. Soon after, on Coruscant, Solo saved the same Wookiee from a savage beating at the hands of a construction overseer. For this second act of insubordination, he was drummed out of the Imperial Navy.

And that is Han Solo's career in the Imperial Navy... And his first meeting with Chewbacca. If anyone was interested... And pretty much nobody has ever been able to cover Han's and Chewie's meeting in detail since George wants to keep for himself, I guess. That's why you wouldn't really remember it much in either Han Solo trilogy...

/me shrugs and walks away

Dylflon · 05-30-2005, 10:35 PM

I remember it now! Mako's name jogged my memory.

And the Han Solo books completely cover Han's and Chewie's meeting.

Chewbacca was gambling in a seedy bar and I believe he was accused of cheating. One of the guys he was playing against was going to shoot him but Han shot the guy first. Chewbacca then began following Han and when Han told him to go away, Chewbacca told him that he now owed him a life debt and would follow him wherever he went.

I should reread those books.

Ginkasa · 05-30-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

And the Han Solo books completely cover Han's and Chewie's meeting.

Really? I haven't read the books, but I was told it was only covered in a small flashback... Ah well. Guess I was told wrong.

/me shrugs and walks away

Dylflon · 05-31-2005, 02:52 AM

Well the trilogy starts with Han as a child so it follows his life pretty extensively right up to his meeting with Obi-Wan Kenobi in the bar on Tatooine.