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[Null]

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

I havn't played Halo at all, but IMO Metroid and Eternal Darkness were two of the most over-hyped games this generation

not doubting that, i never played ED tho, but id definently thro Halo in with them.
but i was calling halo overated, didnt comment on it being over hyped.

[rottwylor]

See... a lot of that is subjective... I loved both Metroid and ED... a lot... and I didn't find them over hyped at all =)

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

prime wasnt IMO overated, at least not as much as others *coughhalocough*

but indeed it was VERY over hyped, seems like nintendo could say its raining outside and IGN would find a way to overhype it.

Halo wasn't over-hyped... and it's the fans doing it to Halo 2, not some IGN editor trying to build it up

If Halo was over-hyped, I must have missed the hype train, because I didn't get an Xbox until early 2003 and I ddn't think about buying halo until a few months after buying an Xbox... I wans't even thinking about halo, played it and I'm now pissed that I didn't get it the day it came out.

It's the best console FPS this generation, and put of all the launch games I have played for any platform this gen, the best game. I'm saying this after ignoring it's release and simply turning a blind eye to it for over a year.

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Halo wasn't over-hyped... and it's the fans doing it to Halo 2, not some IGN editor trying to build it up

If Halo was over-hyped, I must have missed the hype train, because I didn't get an Xbox until early 2003 and I ddn't think about buying halo until a few months after buying an Xbox... I wans't even thinking about halo, played it and I'm now pissed that I didn't get it the day it came out.

It's the best console FPS this generation, and put of all the launch games I have played for any platform this gen, the best game. I'm saying this after ignoring it's release and simply turning a blind eye to it for over a year.

check it again bro. over RATED. i said originally. then agreed about the games you mentioned being over hyped. theres a diff.

And the best Console FPS Halo might be, and that makes me really depressed about console FPS's because as a PC FPS'er when i finally played the game on both PC and Xbox...... MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT. i guess it just showed me how far ahead FPS's have come on PC. in PC magazines it was rated one of the biggest dissapointments of the year to pc fans. i returned the game for PC the next day. and its been rated to be slightly improved - exact same single player. I didnt try single tho and maybe thats where its at, but multi is what i like and it was no where near up to standards.

But anywho, i was saying overated. not overhyped.

i agree prime was over hyped. i dont feel it was overrated tho. kinda the opposite. heh.


*shrug*

[GameMaster]

As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.

[rottwylor]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.

I'll give ya a nickle..

...it's shiny and new!

[GameKinG]

Halo really is over rated. The level design on single player is really bad and repetative around the middle of the game through the end. Multiplayer is ok, but there are no extra modes I have found that you can play alone, which is a bummer. The only multiplayer map I really like is 'Hang em High'.

I thought MP was over rated when I started playing it too. I got it, played it for 3 1/2 hours, was going in circles, and quit. 4 months later I gave it another chance, and found where I was suppose to go (instead of in circles). From there it was smooth sailing. I got all the upgrades, the puzzles and bosses are great have awsome use of weapons and power ups. Its now my favorite game.

Although I did have to cheat with an FAQ to figure out where to go initialy (and get out of that damn circle). But whatever it takes...Its a good balance of freedom and restriction, you can go a lot of places but eventually your gunna be locked out of them all and only have one option that will lead you to the weapon that will open up the doors you were locked out of.

[Null]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.

dont forget to put smash bros slightly above sc2 in the overrated catagory.

i mean. could we get more corny and silly in that game?


;p

[Canyarion]

I really hope they won't only use the 'over-the-shoulder' view. I really can't imagine that it will be comfy.
We need the original camera posistions, with an option to change to the shoulder view, in case you want to see what enemies are in the room. I really hate wasting bullets/health because I can't see what's going on.

[TheGame]

Well, Null, how can the best be over-rated? Did it get perfect scores? No, but the game did come out 2 1/2 years ago and has yet to be topped by a console FPS... maybe that didn't justify the scores back then, but it more than justifies the score now.

(oh, and sorry for all the errors in my last post, I was in a mad rush)

GKG, while Halo's level design may get repetitive, the fact that you go back through the level makes sense both to the story and to the reality of the situation. If you dig yourself into a hole, you have to dig your way out... this isn't zelda, there is no circle of light to step on after you defeat the boss to take you to the front of the dungeon.

I don't want to turn this into a Halo vs Metriod thread... but what Halo has in it's single player that Metriod lacks is a story that drives me to play. Great games almost always give you a reason to play from the gate. Compare the first level of Halo to the first "level" of Metriod Prime, no contest.

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Well, Null, how can the best be over-rated? Did it get perfect scores? No, but the game did come out 2 1/2 years ago and has yet to be topped by a console FPS... maybe that didn't justify the scores back then, but it more than justifies the score now.

to me its not the best tho. But, what im saying is if thats whats its reconized as, so be it, but that really saddens me about console FPS's in general.

but there hasnt really ever been a console FPS i could truly enjoy, so thats where my opinion would come from. im sure its quite differnt from PC fps'ers to Console ones.

and whats with all this halo talk? all i did was make a little cough jab at it. lol

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

to me its not the best tho. But, what im saying is if thats whats its reconized as, so be it, but that really saddens me about console FPS's in general.

Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.

too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc.

opinion in that regard is opinion.

Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.

And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.

But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway?

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc. [/b]

Yep, and the AOL Fat girl lovers are the PC FPS lovers

Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.

Agreed... but my opinion isn't pushed by any of that as I explained

And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.

Which is? All I can think of is online play.

[b]But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway?

Don't worry about that

[thatmariolover]

I don't think Halo was overhyped. Definately overrated (one word) now that it's out in my opinion, but not overhyped. It's a fun game to be sure. But I really got sick of it about 1/2 way through and really found it difficult to stick with it until the end (although i did finish it). The multiplayer is fun, but again, I can only play for a little while before I decide I'd rather be shoveling snow. But you know what? I really don't like FPS games in general, so I'm not going to continue.

Eternal Darkness found a special place in my heart. The game should have been way longer, and way more frightening than it ever was. But I still really enjoyed it. The story and the sanity effects were enough to keep me excited about the game until the end.

This whole RE4 possibility seems unlikely. I think that, yes, they did see a number of Capcom games. But they signed a blanket NDA (covering several or all of the games that they saw) so they can't comment on RE4 or the other games the played. I personally think that it's probably still another game. And if it is RE4, I'm going to be really disappointed. It seems like it's just going to be a Silent Hill ripoff with a crappy storyline (i.e. every other Resident Evil game storyline).

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