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[nWoCHRISnWo]

Well that isn't my main argument of why I don't believe there's a god, mickeydaniels, I just threw it out there. And considering you can take anything out of the bible and take it out of context to mean whatever you want, I don't believe ANYTHING that comes out of the bible so don't bother.

The way I see it, there's absolutely NOTHING that provides evidence that there is a god, and until then I won't believe there is.

[Hero2]

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[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Originally Posted by nWoCHRISnWo

Well that isn't my main argument of why I don't believe there's a god, mickeydaniels, I just threw it out there. And considering you can take anything out of the bible and take it out of context to mean whatever you want, I don't believe ANYTHING that comes out of the bible so don't bother.

The way I see it, there's absolutely NOTHING that provides evidence that there is a god, and until then I won't believe there is.

exactly....those phrases could be used to explain numerous things in our past.... i personally think lines such as those were added centuries later, not only that, but the bible first written nor recorded in english, much of the true meanings of the proverbs are lost through translations, that is a fact, it happens today as well, for example take any famous german poet, take a poem, run it through a translator on the internet, and then compare it to what the poem means, it is more than likely the answers will be substantially different.

[The Duggler]

Originally Posted by TheGame

You base your beliefs off of what "we" have discoverd to this point? *chuckles* Care to give some examples?

As for jumping to conclusions... I think you may be the one jumping to them. How do you know for a fact that "explaining the inexplicable" is the 'reason' man believes in God? Have you ever taken into account that religious figureheads may be real people and *gasp* the book speaks of the truth about them?

None of us lived in that time, thus none of us can prove anything that happend at that time without reading into it... Correct? So when you say "I base my beliefs in what we know and discoverd to this point" who are you talking about when you say 'we'?

The fact is, there is no 'we' there is only you and yorself. You are chosing to believe what you read in a history book, and what you see on TV, but the fact is everything that you haven't lived with or experienced for yourself could be completly bogus.

Like in my last arguement, all the infinitys in life can't be proved... but you labeled it as "proven". There is no proof, that's just like me listing God as proven. Some say the universe goes out forever, but how do we know? Most of us haven't been off the planet, let alone outside of the solar system... how do you know it's not just one big scam? Simple, you don't until you see/do it for yourself.

Back to the point, you are chosing to believe in somthing that may or may not be true, just like any religious person on the planet. You have faith in history and science books, and you believe in infinity, somthing that defanently can't be proven.

So, I ask you again, what do you base your beliefs off of?

*taps foot*

Ok, I'll tell you... you base them off of what you want to believe, not what you know, just like everybody else. You will claim it's what you "know" just like a religious person will claim it's what they "know" but neither have anything to back themselves up except by personal experience. Infinity never has been, nor will ever be a proven concept because nobody can experience infintity.

You live your own life, and you believe what you want to believe... Science is just as bad and even worse than Religion when it comes to faith... and it has no moralities involved.

Some people will never read the bible (or any religious scripture) and accept it as truth, like they would read a history book or somthing of that nature and accept it. If you didn't see it for yourself, just like you didn't see the events in the bible for yourself, that doesn't mean it isn't true. Just because somthing is in the history book it doesn't automatically classify as true, same goes for anything anybody has said or claimed to have done that you haven't done for yourself or seen for yourself.

Maybe you can go to outer space one day and prove the world is round

Ok I understand your point, but what you are saying in that post, is that we are both at the same point. We don't know nothing for sure, and I'm fine with that, but if you present me both choices, both theories (god or science) I choose science.

No we (I'm talking about the human race) haven't discovered everything, we might haven't discovered anything, like you said, but you can't deny the progress we have made. Like understanding how lightning is formed and therefore disprouving an old belief of a god trowing it from the sky.