Saddam's Sons Confirmed Dead

Bond · 07-22-2003, 05:17 PM

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MOSUL, Iraq — Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai were killed Tuesday when U.S. soldiers stormed a house in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, U.S. military officials said Tuesday.

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez of U.S. Central Command announced late Tuesday night in Baghdad that Odai and Qusai were two of the four people who died in a firefight between U.S. troops and Iraqis at the house earlier in the day.

"This will prove to the Iraqi people that at least these two members of the regime will not be coming back to power," Sanchez said from Baghdad. "We remain totally committed to the same regime never coming back to power and tormenting the Iraqi people."

Sources at the Pentagon and within the Bush administration earlier told Fox News that at least four "high-level" targets were killed inside the large villa that belonged to one of Saddam's cousins. A senior administration official said the U.S. was "90 to 95 percent certain" that Saddam's sons were among the dead.

Source: FoxNews (What? You think I would use CNN? Ha!)

GameMaster · 07-22-2003, 05:47 PM

It isn't offcial yet, they're still investigating and identifying the bodies. They think its Saddam's sons.

Edit: Nope, you're right, I guess it is official now.

Vampyr · 07-22-2003, 05:50 PM

Thats good news, but it seems as though it was all in vain. We set the peoples of Iraq free, which is better than our primary goal, but the fact is, the reason Bush said we were going over there in the first place is a lie. Hes facing impeachment becuase he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

But still, were accomplishing something better anyway.

Happydude · 07-22-2003, 06:04 PM

HAH! those bastards deserve it!

that'll teach them to kill inocent people...

Dylflon · 07-22-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by happydude666

HAH! those bastards deserve it!

that'll teach them to kill inocent people...

American soldiers have also killed innocent people. Their hands aren't any cleaner. But America did a great thing by freeing the Iraqis.

CrOnO_LiNk · 07-22-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Thats good news, but it seems as though it was all in vain. We set the peoples of Iraq free, which is better than our primary goal, but the fact is, the reason Bush said we were going over there in the first place is a lie. Hes facing impeachment becuase he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

But still, were accomplishing something better anyway.

Saddam is probably going nuts right now. But yeah, I don't like the fact of people dying, but this is some good news...

Bond · 07-22-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Thats good news, but it seems as though it was all in vain. We set the peoples of Iraq free, which is better than our primary goal, but the fact is, the reason Bush said we were going over there in the first place is a lie. Hes facing impeachment becuase he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

He is not facing impeachment, that is ludicrous.

I would argue with you about the reasons why we went to war, but it's not worth it.

DeathsHand · 07-22-2003, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

He is not facing impeachment, that is ludicrous.

I would argue with you about the reasons why we went to war, but it's not worth it.

Arguing about political stuff is stupid (especially with teenagers) because there are basically 3 groups:

a. People who have their heads shoved way up the governments' ass
b. People who don't really care
c. People who try to take every government mistake and blow it out of proportion and bishidy bash it...

I, personally, enjoy bananas...

GameMaster · 07-22-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand

I, personally, enjoy bananas...

Is your spoon too big also?

DeathsHand · 07-22-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Is your spoon too big also?

MY SPOON IS TOO BIG!

I AM A BANANA!

ugh, gag me with a spoon

...

I mean umm... go US... kill those Iraqis...

BreakABone · 07-22-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand

Arguing about political stuff is stupid (especially with teenagers) because there are basically 3 groups:

a. People who have their heads shoved way up the governments' ass
b. People who don't really care
c. People who try to take every government mistake and blow it out of proportion and bishidy bash it...

I, personally, enjoy bananas...

And we have a winner!

That pretty much sums up most political debates even beyond teens, but shush.

Stonecutter · 07-22-2003, 11:45 PM

If you supported the war in the first place, but now don't because of the WMD thing, you're a moron. If it's only now that you realize that some of the stuff they were telling you just might not be completly true then you can't be helped. The government lies, deal with it.

This war was, and always has been about oil (Bush,) and displaying the might of the US military (Rumdsfeld.) Yeah, we really liberated the crap out of those poor bastards. I'm sure once Haliburton (oh yeah, that's Chaney) takes most of the government's money and pockets it the Iraqi people will be much better off.

But hey! At least gas is only $1.85 a gallon!

gekko · 07-22-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

He is not facing impeachment, that is ludicrous.

I would argue with you about the reasons why we went to war, but it's not worth it.

I would also, but again, it's not worth it.

However, if you care to educate yourself, you can always ask.

Vampyr · 07-23-2003, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bond

He is not facing impeachment, that is ludicrous.

Last time I watched the news, which was like 2 nights ago, he was. Its not like they're going to impeach him tomorrow, but hes on grounds for impeachment. He said we were going over there to get rid of weapons of mass destruction. He ruined our aliance with France and most of the UN. And now the weapons are no where to be found. Tony Blair is in a bind right now because of the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

If you supported the war in the first place, but now don't because of the WMD thing, you're a moron. If it's only now that you realize that some of the stuff they were telling you just might not be completly true then you can't be helped. The government lies, deal with it.

This war was, and always has been about oil (Bush,) and displaying the might of the US military (Rumdsfeld.) Yeah, we really liberated the crap out of those poor bastards. I'm sure once Haliburton (oh yeah, that's Chaney) takes most of the government's money and pockets it the Iraqi people will be much better off.

I didnt support the war in the first place. I thought that the weapons of mass destruction thing was bull since the beginning. I mean, it was ridiculus! I was watching CNN, and the Bush administration said that if the UN weapons inspecters found weapons, they would attack and dissarm Saddam. Then they said that if they DIDNT find weapons of mass desruction, they would use that as proof that he was hiding them! So either way, we were going war, and that news report was enough to convince me that Bush had no idea if Saddam had weapons or not.

I think Bush would have gotten more support if he said the reason he was going over was to finish a job started years ago and to free the people of Iraq. His reasons could be that it was the humane thing to do and that it would prevent the spread of communism/dictatorships/tyranny.

But its the American's job in this world I guess, sticking our nose into places it doesnt belong. Look at Vietnam. We're trying to be the international police force, and its not working.

Oh well.

gekko · 07-23-2003, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Last time I watched the news, which was like 2 nights ago, he was. Its not like they're going to impeach him tomorrow, but hes on grounds for impeachment. He said we were going over there to get rid of weapons of mass destruction. He ruined our aliance with France and most of the UN. And now the weapons are no where to be found. Tony Blair is in a bind right now because of the same thing.

He never was facing impeachment, never will be. You need to listen clearer to what it being said. Besides, you can't impeach Bush, because you can't link him to a crime. Presidents are always scape goats, but the truth is they only give the OK. Along the way his advisors will look at the intelligence, make decisions on the best course of action, and then brief the President. The President says OK, and it's done. Plus, everything the President said was written by someone else, and evaluated numerous times before the President even sees it, so it there was anything questionable that was being said, it would've been taken out. Speeches are checked much more closely in matters of national security.

Now if you believe in all that, there are no WMD, you are a moron.

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I didnt support the war in the first place. I thought that the weapons of mass destruction thing was bull since the beginning.

Which is a clear sign that it is a partisan issue for you, and you wouldn't support Bush no matter what the reason.

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I think Bush would have gotten more support if he said the reason he was going over was to finish a job started years ago and to free the people of Iraq. His reasons could be that it was the humane thing to do and that it would prevent the spread of communism/dictatorships/tyranny.

Iraq is not communist. And Bush did say that, people didn't care. Many who support the war find it a good enough reason, then again, many who opposed the war had, and still have no idea what Saddam was actually doing. But we live in a selfish world, ending a oppressive regime is not a reason to go to war, because it doesn't affect Americans. For the same reason that until a bomb lands on your head, you could care less about WMD.

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But its the American's job in this world I guess, sticking our nose into places it doesnt belong. Look at Vietnam. We're trying to be the international police force, and its not working.

Who says we don't belong? People will support and oppose anything we do, so we might as well do the right thing. And in so many ways, Vietnam was successful.