Your Religion!

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by Hero2

thus anything you have seen felt learned is existence.
existence is your way of life anything you have incountered is existence.
to question what you have seen felt touched is foolish your alive im alive thats a given if anything above and beond that that has not been touched by you is not existence. have you felt god have you seen god or have you read about him maybe saw a picture. ive seen a note book its notie and bookie ive felt it and even eaten a page anything can be questioned and proven except god soo whether hes there and dosent want to be found or hes not there and someone needs to belive in somthing anything just to have hope. anyway it doenst matter if he is god then he has a plan wether you belive or not and what is that you can see and fell that is existence. god is just... somewhere else or not there at all.

Yes, but how can I prove myself existant? How can I prove that someone has seen, felt, or learned of me when everything else is a result of my seeing, feeling, and learning.

According to your logic, everything exists because of me. How could I make myself exist though? How did I make myself exist to make everything else exist to make me exist?

[Hero2]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Yes, but how can I prove myself existant? How can I prove that someone has seen, felt, or learned of me when everything else is a result of my seeing, feeling, and learning.

According to your logic, everything exists because of me. How could I make myself exist though? How did I make myself exist to make everything else exist to make me exist?

if your here then how do you not existence.
it doesent matter who made you existence. Its the fact that you do existence that matters

[GameMaster]

Umm, all those "existence" should have been "exist".

As for your question:

I can't prove/disprove that I'm here.

[Ace195]

Originally Posted by Hero2

if your here then how do you not existence.
it doesent matter who made you existence. Its the fact that you do existence that matters

Thats deep jeff thats really deep that touches me right here *points to heart*

[Hero2]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Umm, all those "existence" should have been "exist".

As for your question:

I can't prove/disprove that I'm here.

yes you can open your eyes are you there then thats existence. you exist. existence is you being there nothing more if your there you exist. and dont say how to prove your there theres nothing to prove you can type i can interact with you your there dont make it more then that if you do then your wrong. dont look for answers that have no question its just a stupid saying you thought sounds cool but gets old
p.s. ace i try

[GameMaster]

How can you prove/disprove that what your eyes show you is what's really there or not there?

[Hero2]

because it is there how can you question it not being there you giving the word a differnt meaing like saying this jelly dont tase like penut butter
of course it doesnt. how else can you prove somthing. there is no other way you see it its there end of story.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

How can you prove/disprove that what your eyes show you is what's really there or not there?

For Your Information: The things shown in the Matrix are not true. It is a fictionary world created by some guy that had too much time on his hands. It is a great movie, but you should not believe what it says. I think you've watched it one too many times.

[TheGame]

lol, belive it or not, I like Gamemaster's arguement.

He is thinking along the lines of a movie I have seen, to give a better example... The Matrix... or even worse the 13th floor (or somthing like that).

How do we know we are real and not a AI program? We could be living in some futurisic verion of the Sims... my way of disproving that I live in some type of Matrix is my faith. If you have faith in nothing you aren't alive.

You believe that you are real, and that's all a matter of faith, you can't prove you are real, it's just progrmmed into your head... just like the Sims. It's impossible to not poor ny faith into anyhing, because if you didn't you might as well be dead.

I'm not saying go out and kill yourself, but even if you were to, you have faiht that when that bullet goes through your head you will die.

Like GM said about the food, Crono quickly sruck back with the fact that he would die if he stopped eating... but guess what... Crono obviously hasn't stopped eating long enough to find out... he just has faith that stopping will kill him.

How do you guys know if we are real or not? Or if every person place and thing you have ever run into are just ailens here testing you? Why don't you pove that? You can't jump into another person's body can you? You just have what you have.

Why do people have compassion for others? Because they think they are the same, but you really don't know until you become them, which you can't.

I'm even confusing myself the way I am talking, but at least I feel I have purpose in life. Some have faith in science, some have faith in thier own beliefs, and some have faith in God. The key is no matter if you are aithest or not, you have faith in somthing, if you like it or not.

So GM using food as a form of belief is reasonable. Just because you drop the ball the same way into the same spot for years, it doesn't mean that the next time you do it the result will be the same...the next time it could float up and hit you in the head. Nothing is guranteed.

We don't even know the sun will come up tomorrow... are there parts of the world you haven't been to? Well, you don't know it's real, or if it's fake until you go there for yourself. You cannot prove anyhing you haven't done, faith is the only way to come to a reasonable conclusion.

You think you will die it you shoot yourself in the head? Well you can't prove it... maybe if one of us ailens who are testng you would go away if that happens, but you don't know that it will happen the next time or if you try it on yourself. You have faih that it will or it won't

[Hero2]

*claps* bravo
all I have to say is wjy does it matter
if your here then your here if not then why should you care your not real thus leading into the ultimate question ??why??

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Hero2

*claps* bravo
all I have to say is wjy does it matter
if your here then your here if not then why should you care your not real thus leading into the ultimate question ??why??

I don't understand what you are trying to say

The point of my post an the point of beating MGS2 () is that I have faith in the Bible... does that mean that it's going to happen for sure? Well, I'm about as sure of the Bible as you guys are sure that the sun will come up tomorrow morning... does that mean it's truly going to happen? We don't know until we experience, but we have faith in tomorrow.

I have my answer to the 'Why' of my life, until proven otherwise that's what I know will happen. Just like Crono knows stopping eating
will kill him.

[GameMaster]

And with that being said, I hereby declare myself and TheGame the winners of this thread!

Ok Justin, lock this baby up.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And with that being said, I hereby declare myself and TheGame the winners of this thread!

Ok Justin, lock this baby up.

I would never abuse my power like that

Ok, unless I'm agueing with D-RealLoser...

(because he would flame me and give me a legit reason to )

[Bond]

GameMaster you are so caught up in yourself it's ridiculous.

I won't even bother to repeat what other people have already said. You are very close to getting banned from this forum. Contribute productively or don't contribute at all.

[Stonecutter]

This here is the withstandinator, it can take a six megaton blast, no more, no less.


/me hops in.

[jeepnut]

Originally Posted by Hero2

thus anything you have seen felt learned is existence.
existence is your way of life anything you have incountered is existence.
to question what you have seen felt touched is foolish your alive im alive thats a given if anything above and beond that that has not been touched by you is not existence. have you felt god have you seen god or have you read about him maybe saw a picture. ive seen a note book its notie and bookie ive felt it and even eaten a page anything can be questioned and proven except god soo whether hes there and dosent want to be found or hes not there and someone needs to belive in somthing anything just to have hope. anyway it doenst matter if he is god then he has a plan wether you belive or not and what is that you can see and fell that is existence. god is just... somewhere else or not there at all.

Good grief man. Use periods!

My head hurts.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by TheGame

lol, belive it or not, I like Gamemaster's arguement.

That's great... But what is he arguing? He was talking about something completely different than everybody else. I don't know if he actually thought it was relevant or if he's just stupid, but his "arguement" does not belond in this conversation at all. Or any other threads (he seems to think that this whole "exist or not exist" crap is relevant in the usergroup thread as well )

He's entitled to his opinion (although it seems to contradict what he was initially saying) and you're entitled to your's, but this particular opinion is being told in the wrong place.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Ace195]

Not to jump in in the wrong spot or anything. But who cares if we exist or not. I mean if we don't then who knows ? But I mean as long as we "think" we exist lets atleast have fun with out lives before we become some meaningless "fertilizer" if we do exist. I'm not saying go loot and pillage I'm saying smile more, don't judge on apperances, be happy with your self image, don't follow lead. These are all just things that I believe people should live by. And by doing that weither we're really here or not makes no diffrence because if you do those things then you made someone esle's existence better and if were not really here who's gonna know ?

[Xantar]

Hmmm...GameMaster getting caught up in an empty argument about existence in which he uses questionable logic just for the sake of, as far as I can tell, hearing his own voice.

Where have I seen this before?

Sorry, GameMaster. If Bond decides to ban you, I can't pull you out of this one. Although I'm not sure I would want to anyway.

In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, GameMaster isn't worth paying attention to. Just ignore what he says. Or even put him on your ignore list.

[BreakABone]

I go away to school for one week, and a religion thread rears it's ugly head again.

In the time from the last relgiion thread, which was what 5-10 mins ago or so? I realized I have no faith, but am spiritual or so my friends told me when we had this discussion over pizza. If you must know, I had a slice with a hot dog roll and a Tropical Sprite Remix.

GameMaster, as always you just try too damn hard. I mean just because you try and make an intelligent arguement doesn't make you look intelligent. I forget the old cliche, but it's something along the lines of "Better to be thought of a fool, then to speak and remove all doubts."

As for Justin, it's not too shocking to see you agree with the most farfetched arguement thrown out , but your logic works and doesn't work. We have no idea in knowing if we really exist or if we are just some game someone else is playing. And in the long run, it really doesn't matter. We don't make our living on knowing we exist, we exist as our own entity. We may or may not make our own decisions, but as long as we perceive that we do, we are fine, and until you can prove it wrong, eh.


Anyhow, textbooks call.