Both Gamecube & GBA Successor confirmed by Nintendo - Page 4

Bond · 11-04-2002, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss

And another thing, does Nintendo lose money on their GCNs?

Yes... Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all lose money on making their systems. Microsoft losing the most, then Sony, then Nintendo I believe, they make the money back (or hope to) on games and accessories.

Joeiss · 11-04-2002, 06:04 PM

Well then, if Nintendo lowered their price of the system in the new year, just in time for Zelda, would they be losing money, gaining money, or break even? I mean, Zelda will sell many-a-copies.... So I think that they can afford a price cut, that is if the competition does it first, because I cannot see Nintendo beginning that.

And... This was definately not the year of Nintendo, IMO. They say that they have the "Nintendo Difference", but hell, I think that the PS2 has a better line up than the GCN for the past summer and the fall. I am getting my share of amazing, exclusive games from the PS2 (SOCOM, GTA:VC, Ratchet and Clank), and quite frankly, I do not think that Nintendo is delivering in the way that they should (in regards to exclusive 3rd party games, and 1st party games).

GameKinG · 11-04-2002, 11:21 PM

I think Nintendo is turning a profit now, though with the price lowered that may have changed. Im willing to bet they are, with all the developer fees, and game sales.

I think MS predicted sales to turn late next year, though that was also before the bundle...long before it. Analyst said MS would take 3 years or something.

TheGame · 11-05-2002, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by GameKinG
I think Nintendo is turning a profit now, though with the price lowered that may have changed. Im willing to bet they are, with all the developer fees, and game sales.

I think MS predicted sales to turn late next year, though that was also before the bundle...long before it. Analyst said MS would take 3 years or something.

Now... with the purchase of Rare and all... MS might not even turn a profit this generation at all!

The old prediction, before the launch, the purchase of Rare, and the creation of Xbox Live, was that it would take 4 years... now that seems near impossible.

They are just paying the price to get thier foot into the industry's door.

I agree with you on the fact that Nintendo may be turning a profit right now. What have they really spent $$$ on? They sold Rare, cancelled SW... and I haven't seen some huge blockbuster promotion. (I guess Cube clubs can count... but as long as it doesn't touch my home town I can't see it costing that much)

GameKinG · 11-05-2002, 12:48 AM

Yes true, I forgot out MS's latest purchases, and investments.

Its hard to tell if they will turn a profit on xbox. And they will likely try to beat Sony out the door with their next console, before XBox has a chance.

Oh, and I doubt Nintendo would even think of Bakersfield as a plausable location.

Bond · 11-05-2002, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by GameKinG
I think Nintendo is turning a profit now, though with the price lowered that may have changed. Im willing to bet they are, with all the developer fees, and game sales.

I think MS predicted sales to turn late next year, though that was also before the bundle...long before it. Analyst said MS would take 3 years or something.

Actually they predicted to turn a profit more like in 2005. It's pretty hard to predict things like that though, they could make a profit before or after 2005.

Angrist · 11-05-2002, 10:18 AM

1 1/2 year ago, we were so happy that M$ didn't buy Nintendo. Now, do you think that would have been a good choice? Should Nintendo have joined with M$??

ShinkuSan · 11-05-2002, 10:24 AM

they beat there meat

BlueFire · 11-05-2002, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by ShinkuSan
they beat there meat

!

Is that really you?

TheGame · 11-05-2002, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
1 1/2 year ago, we were so happy that M$ didn't buy Nintendo. Now, do you think that would have been a good choice? Should Nintendo have joined with M$??

lol... back then I was the only one who wanted Nintendo to be bought out. My opinion hasn't changed on that.

Put every GCN exclusive game on Xbox.... or every Xbox exclusive game on GCN... Then take into account that Nintendo wouldn't have to worry about spending money on hardware, and the fact that they could concentrate on 100% games. Toss on M$'s ad campaing and bottomless pocket. Take one competitor off the shelves...

Then we can start to imagine what good things a Nintendo buyout could have meant.

We might have had a system capible of competing with Sony!

Oh well though... according to Nintendo "we didn't even need the money they offerd"

But in the end, the payoff probably would have been somthing light years ahead of what M$ offerd.

Joeiss · 11-05-2002, 06:28 PM

WTF. MS wanted to buy Nintendo? Where the hell was I when this happened?

TheGame · 11-05-2002, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
WTF. MS wanted to buy Nintendo? Where the hell was I when this happened?

It happend before people even Considerd Xbox a realistic competitor on the industry.

In "Nintendo Dolphin"'s early days...

There were MAJOR rumors going around about a buy-out too! Of course, it was blown off by most Nintendo fans kinda like the Rare rumors.

Then the rumors dissappeard... then Microsoft came out with a book a lil while ago about making the Xbox. They clearly say they attempted to buy Nintendo and Nintendo said "they don't need the money"

*shrugs*

GameKinG · 11-05-2002, 06:45 PM

Yeah, they wanted to purchases Nintendo for almost their current Net worth. Nintendo would have been a very large company at that rate, but they probably wouldnt care because they would be under MS's thumb.

Joeiss · 11-05-2002, 07:32 PM

Oh. Cool, thanks.

Angrist · 11-06-2002, 07:06 AM

If only it would have been a joint-venture instead of a buy-out... A buy-out sounds too... Microsoft. M$ would have made the console while Nintendo could have learned them quite a few tricks.