Microsoft Press Conference: Stream & Discussion - Page 4

Angrist · 06-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Lol, that's not true. I've banned my internet for 4 months and I could still play Steam games.

manasecret · 06-02-2009, 05:48 PM

Project Natal looks amazing. That guy on GameTrailers Bonus Round brought up a good point about the problem of no controller -- assuming the accuracy is there, you can then incorporate any real life item into the game. It may still need buttons, but maybe it's so accurate it can see you pulling a trigger? And maybe it's accurate enough to pull off the Red Steel 2 type sword fighting with any ol' stick you have laying around.

I think something with buttons will probably be needed for many games. But that's old tech and can be easily added.

It's still early, and I think this will be more of a next-gen thing for Microsoft. But I am damn glad someone is giving Nintendo a run for their money. It cements motion control as a real-deal for the future, and it creates competition.

How awesome would a combination of the Wiimote and Natal be?

Angrist · 06-02-2009, 05:52 PM

A combination of all 3 technologies, that would be awesome.
Except Sony's is just an in-between mix of the 2 others. So yeah, you're right, a combo of Wiimote+ and Natal.

Oh and don't forget Nintendo's awesome finger scanner. Oh and the Virtual Boy. And power glove.

Angrist · 06-03-2009, 04:15 PM

Hehe, I'm glad I saw 2001. Would you guys recommend 2010?

KillerGremlin · 06-03-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

Hehe, I'm glad I saw 2001. Would you guys recommend 2010?

Maybe. The movies are based off of books I believe. I saw 2001 because I'm a huge Kubrick fan. He's one of my favorite directors. He didn't direct 2010 so I had no interest in the film. Maybe fans of the books would appreciate the movie more. I don't really know.

It got nominated for a few Oscars so I'm sure it's tolerable cinema.

If you phrased your question, "should I watch 2010 or Dr. Strangelove"...well...I shouldn't even have to justify that hypothetical question with a response.

Bond · 06-04-2009, 03:14 PM

New article over at cnet: How Microsoft stole the show at E3.

Results of their poll:

Which company had the most impressive E3 2009 announcements?
Microsoft 52.1%
Sony 33.9%
None of them--they were all yawners. 8.4%
Nintendo 5.6%
Total votes: 10853

KillerGremlin · 06-04-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

New article over at cnet: How Microsoft stole the show at E3.

Results of their poll:

Which company had the most impressive E3 2009 announcements?
Microsoft 52.1%
Sony 33.9%
None of them--they were all yawners. 8.4%
Nintendo 5.6%
Total votes: 10853

I can't believe Nintendo got such low votes. I know it's cool to hate Nintendo (I'm very critical of Nintendo myself), but I thought Sony's 2-hour long and drawn out conference was less exciting than Nintendo's and way more predictable. I agree though the Nintendo conference sucked. Just slightly less than Sony's.

Bond · 06-04-2009, 04:03 PM

Here's an IGN poll with very similar results:

Who won this year's E3 press conference battle?

Microsoft - 1086
Sony - 485
NO ONE!! - 335
Nintendo - 109
Votes: 2015

Source: http://ve3d.ign.com/poll/257/E3-2009...ference-Winner

KillerGremlin · 06-04-2009, 04:05 PM

If so many people are unmoved by Nintendo why is the Wii destroying sales this generation.

Bond · 06-04-2009, 04:09 PM

I don't think the people who are buying Wiis in droves are the same people who would watch an E3 press conference, let alone vote in an E3 poll. But, I could be wrong.

manasecret · 06-04-2009, 04:32 PM

That CNET guy is seriously drinking the Microsoft Kool-Aid.

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Nintendo had a tough year at E3. It announced a new Super Mario Bros. title for the Wii. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is also coming to its console. But that's about it. Oh, and a pulse reader called the Wii Vitality Sensor. Yeah, I don't get it, either.

Well, he's either ignorant or willfully ignoring what they presented. I agree Nintendo's conference wasn't as big as I'd like, but leaving out a Project Ninja (EDIT: Oops, Team Ninja that is, I'm running the names together..) Metroid game is leaving out a lot. And a tough year at E3? A slew of WM+ games releasing within a month, pretty much all exclusive (one of his criteria for Microsoft's good year)? And the new game announcements for wildly popular franchises is a tough year? I know they're not Halo or MGS, but they're still just as popular, perhaps for a different crowd. It wasn't Nintendo's best year, but I wouldn't call it a tough one by a long shot.

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Game downloads are the future. Exclusives help sell game consoles. And taking motion control to the next level is the right move for Microsoft.

Game downloads are the present and have been for a few years for the PC, and I can tell you while it's the right step to be making, it's not like I feel like I'm in the future ("In the year, two thousaaaand!"). And much of the time getting a physical disc and manual for the same price is the better deal.

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You can say what you want about Microsoft and its Xbox 360. But at this year's E3, it made the competition look foolish. And in the cutthroat business of video games, that's a major victory in and of itself.

Wake up, Nintendo and Sony. Microsoft has.

Wow, "made the competition look foolish"? What is Nintendo supposed to wake up to? I guess he's saying that they should wait two years and then release their motion control like Microsoft?

I agree Microsoft is doing a lot of things right, downloadable games being a minor one, and great games. And Project Natal looks it has great potential. But until the potential is reaped with solid games, it's nothing more than potential.

Angrist · 06-04-2009, 06:02 PM

I haven't read the full article, so I can't really say much, but I agree with manasecret here. Microsoft had one big winner and that was Project Natal. The rest was all in the line of expectation.

But Natal is years away. Nintendo has awesome motion control coming out this month. They had it first. That their competition is copying them is a huge compliment and shows that they took the right gamble. And 50,000,000 says enough.

I don't see how Sony's conf is 'defeating' Nintendo's. I watched it, it had some nice games, but their PSP and motion control parts were very weak.

If I want to give them grades, it's something like this:
MS - 8.5
Nintendo - 6.5
Sony - 5.5

BreakABone · 06-04-2009, 06:32 PM

I agree with the votes, if I was going based solely on the press conference there is no doubt MS won hands down.

But people are looking at e3 in a bubble, Nintendo had no new tech to show because they launched with motion controls almost 3 years ago, the other two are playing catch-up.

Though, I would put Nintendo ahead of Sony. Sony had such odd pacing issues, and very few surprises. And a motion control that has a huge fundamental flaw in the no movement at the moment.

Jonbo298 · 06-05-2009, 12:22 AM

I'd definitely put it too at Microsoft then Nintendo then Sony. Sony just...that damn "Anal Wand" demo felt like such a rushed effort to show a little "me too!". Ninty at least had a few decent surprises (2 mario games that I can't see doing bad considering how their predecessors were).

Szymon · 06-10-2009, 08:01 PM

They just give the Beatles credit for technology developed in their age? WTF?