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Re: EA will take over the world...slowly but surely...
Old 12-15-2004, 08:27 PM   #46
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Default Re: EA will take over the world...slowly but surely...

Well, technically, with a little work you can do just about everything with half a brain that you can with a full brain.

Regardless, the character developement in Medal Of Honor is considerably weaker then that of the developement of characters in many other games.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:34 PM   #47
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Regardless, the character developement in Medal Of Honor is considerably weaker then that of the developement of characters in many other games.

Thats because the game is a war game.

No, If it was an RPG that required you to know a players background history in order to progress with the game, or to get a better understanding, then I agree.

But since you need none of those to pay MoH I disagree strongly. So strongly it hurts.

Do you need to know the background in a sports game. So why should you for a war game?

Why would you buy a game based on cover art anyways?

You can make that argument for ANY game, for ANY system though.

ESPN NHL 2k5. Mrtin St.Louis is on the cover.

What you think : A game where you play as MArtin St.Louis

What you get: A hockey game.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:50 PM   #48
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People complain about first person shooters being shallow, there's a reason for that.

If you go watch movies like Saving Private Ryan, you see incredible character development. So your argument that Medal Of Honor is a war game so it gets excused from having character development is flawed. The basis for Medal Of Honor, at least Allied Assault, "coincidentally" echoed the elements in Saving Private Ryan, minus the character depth. Medal Of Honor works better as a cinematic shooter, much like Half-Life. The premise of the game is throwing you into the action, and making it as stimulating as possible. That was, at least, Medal Of Honor's intent. I won't break the game down and explain why it didn't work as a whole for me, but occasionally the game shinned, despite its weak character development.

First Person Shooters don't need character development, per se, but it doesn't hurt. You're right, a FPS isn't an RPG and you really don't need to sympathize with your character, but it seems like the First Persons Shooters with the most character development are the most memorable. I remember No One Lives Forever and Clive Barker's Undying very well, and both games featured tones of character development and plot. Hell, even games like Duke Nukem and Serious Sam developed their characters. Duke and Sam where both smart asses, and it was entertaining to play as them.

Also, if a story is included in the manual, that's fine. But if you give a character a huge story, and don't incorporate it into the main game, then it's really just pointless information that will quickly be forgotten. Some games, like Warcraft 3, give you tons of in-depth information on the history of the continents and the races you're playing as, and then that information is presented in the game. I was compelled to read the Warcraft 3 booklet because it helped the flow of the Single Player game.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:06 PM   #49
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ok, this is just getting ridiculous

the only undeniable FACT involved here is that lots of people (more then those towards every other publisher) see quality in EA titles, end of story. everything else I've read is either heresay or BS.

but I'll be the mature one and say "to each his own/agree to disagree/different strokes for different folks" etc. etc.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:21 PM   #50
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What are you guys so afraid of? So I called EA's bluff, it's not that big of a deal. Some of you are treating this as a startling revelation that you don't want to except. Nintendo isn't getting a free 1UP from this if that's what you're fearing. And who knows, maybe EA will change their ways. Everyone needs to calm down. I don't want to hear anymore name-calling or cut-throat insinuations.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:26 PM   #51
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All of us are being whiney little fanboys.

Some of us are saying EA makes horrid games, some say they make good games.

Games are objective. It goes person to person.

And obviously EA makes good games, or they wouldnt be a highly successfull company.

Why are people still arguing and complaining over this?
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:40 PM   #52
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Just about MOH... I find the games really fun, because I am a somewhat war buff. I just think it is cool that I can relive some of the biggest battles in the past 100 years!
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:00 AM   #53
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Probably my favorite game from EA was Freedom Fighters. That game was awesome. It had a character, with feelings. Hell their was one point in the game where I felt patriotic and was really angry that those commies were taking over my country. Then I realized that it was based in the States. Strong affect on me.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:09 AM   #54
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What are you guys so afraid of? So I called EA's bluff, it's not that big of a deal. Some of you are treating this as a startling revelation that you don't want to except. Nintendo isn't getting a free 1UP from this if that's what you're fearing. And who knows, maybe EA will change their ways. Everyone needs to calm down. I don't want to hear anymore name-calling or cut-throat insinuations.
*name-calls*

*initiates cut-thorat situation*
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Re: EA will take over the world...slowly but surely...
Old 12-20-2004, 01:42 PM   #55
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EA now has a 19.9% stake in Ubisoft.

Oh, and I hope that with ESPN's restriction on the NFL will coerce into focusing all it's attention and making amazing Basketball games instead.
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Old 12-20-2004, 02:35 PM   #56
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If EA buys ubisoft I'm going to be pissed. The Rayman serious was one of the best, and I don't want EA's hands on it.
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:25 PM   #57
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Ubisoft..... You'd hope that the French would be smarter than that. ... on the other hand

disclaimer: I love France and like the French, no offense, just a joke.
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:07 PM   #58
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EA Probably will buy Ubisoft just like they seem to buy everything else. They will then most likely proceed to turn Rayman into a Black Eyed peas game and twist Prince of Persia into a girl, voiced by Brooke Burke. EA needs to be stopped.
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:39 PM   #59
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Does anybody else get the feeling that EA will eventually get so powerful that they will start to buy out the big companies like Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft? Then they will go on to make their own system.
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:59 AM   #60
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Haha, if you think anyone can buy Nintendo, you haven't seen their stubbornness yet.

You'd think that nobody can buy them, but of course, enough money can do anything.
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