Remembrance Day. - Page 3

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:01 AM

first of all i dident say nuke them all im srry i cant spell but its not that bad and i dont relly care if what i say is cool or not

i just think its dumb that people complian that people died

One Winged Angel · 11-03-2003, 12:06 AM

Holy ****!

Just use punctuation!

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:08 AM

i cant i have to type fast im at work and only have like 30 sec to post.

One Winged Angel · 11-03-2003, 12:24 AM

Well, considering you have time to read all the posts, and browse around and wait for a response to your dumbass post, I seriously doubt it.

Hero2 · 11-03-2003, 12:32 AM

whatever im done arguing thats not what this tread is about and if you want to argue go with a wall youll be on the same level

Dylflon · 11-03-2003, 01:05 AM

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whatever im done arguing thats not what this tread is about and if you want to argue go with a wall youll be on the same level

Whoa ho! You sure showed OWA.

If you're going to argue, it's usually a good thing to know what you're talking about. You can't start acting like an idiot and then call other people dumb. So...you're at work when you post. Does this mean you've graduated from high school? I think it's funny that even middle school students can spell better than you. Use a spell checker or something. Oh, and go read a book.

Crono · 11-03-2003, 12:32 PM

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Just a message to Angrist and anyone else who happens to be from Holland.

Who freed your country's ass in World War II?

Damn straight. And don't you forget it either.

Canada wasn't fully responsible for the liberation of Holland, Canadian command just happened to be around when the Germans surrendered, so they surrendered to Canada. The US was responsible for mmore Nazi deaths.

DarkMaster · 11-03-2003, 12:45 PM

The Liberation of Holland had started with the Americans on September 13, 1944. British troops played a large role along with the Americans. Failure of the airborne assault on Arnhem prevented the liberation of the rest of Holland (September 17, 1944). Canadians took over the liberation and they cleared the Dutch approaches in November. Hostilities ceased on May 5 and the Canadians liberated Holland including Amsterdam and Rotterdam and also the Hague.The Dutch suffered through a harsh winter. Fuel and food and other relief supplies were quickly brought into the area. This was important to winning the war because it ruined the Germans final defense efforts.
Canada had provided a place of refuge for the Queen of Holland during the war in Ottawa . This combined with our efforts to liberate and support the Dutch in Europe led to a good and lasting relationship between the Canada and Holland. This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.

Rndm_Perfection · 11-03-2003, 04:57 PM

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This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.

Very cool stuff. Glad I know it.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 11-03-2003, 04:57 PM

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The Liberation of Holland had started with the Americans on September 13, 1944. British troops played a large role along with the Americans. Failure of the airborne assault on Arnhem prevented the liberation of the rest of Holland (September 17, 1944). Canadians took over the liberation and they cleared the Dutch approaches in November. Hostilities ceased on May 5 and the Canadians liberated Holland including Amsterdam and Rotterdam and also the Hague.The Dutch suffered through a harsh winter. Fuel and food and other relief supplies were quickly brought into the area. This was important to winning the war because it ruined the Germans final defense efforts.
Canada had provided a place of refuge for the Queen of Holland during the war in Ottawa . This combined with our efforts to liberate and support the Dutch in Europe led to a good and lasting relationship between the Canada and Holland. This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.

exactly....

and as for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.... there is no reason why they hit COMPLETE civilian targets.... people who did not want to be in the war, and people who had no desire to fight and die for the war. The only difference that the US showed by hitting those targets is that they had no interest in civilian deaths. Military targets would have made just a strong a message, especially since the japanese would have realized the futility of gathering troops in one place for an attack as they could easily be dispatched..... anyways....ya, thats my opinion

Bond · 11-03-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe

exactly....

and as for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.... there is no reason why they hit COMPLETE civilian targets.... people who did not want to be in the war, and people who had no desire to fight and die for the war. The only difference that the US showed by hitting those targets is that they had no interest in civilian deaths. Military targets would have made just a strong a message, especially since the japanese would have realized the futility of gathering troops in one place for an attack as they could easily be dispatched..... anyways....ya, thats my opinion

If we wouldn't have bombed Japan a lot more people would have died. I would rather not go into details... just believe me.

Seth · 11-03-2003, 10:58 PM

The bombing had to happen, I just don't agree with two bombs being dropped. One bomb would have been sufficient enough.

They blew one bomb up in the air and one one the ground. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just 'tests'. Basically they were guinea pigs.

Here's a question, could you have pressed the button to drop those bombs? If I was the pilot, I don't think I could.

Professor S · 11-03-2003, 11:06 PM

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The bombing had to happen, I just don't agree with two bombs being dropped. One bomb would have been sufficient enough.

They blew one bomb up in the air and one one the ground. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just 'tests'. Basically they were guinea pigs.

Here's a question, could you have pressed the button to drop those bombs? If I was the pilot, I don't think I could.

The US asked Japan to surrender after the first bomb was dropped. Japan refused. They refused after the single most destructive weapon known to mankind was detonated on their populace.

The Japanese were, and still are to a large extent, a samurai culture. Quite literally it is in their nature to die before being shamed. We need to look on other cultures through their ideals, and not ours. I find this happening a lot lately, especially in discussions about the Middle East.

Seth · 11-03-2003, 11:16 PM

Another city had to be destroyed though? Couldn't the US just **** up a large japanese island or Japan's largest military base(s)?

Vampyr · 11-03-2003, 11:23 PM

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Another city had to be destroyed though? Couldn't the US just **** up a large japanese island or Japan's largest military base(s)?

Yes. We had to go for the city. Dont you get it? War isnt about honor or salvation, we did what we had to do. We broke their back and showed them that we would do whatever we had to to win that war. We showed them that the mighty U.S.A would not take any crap. We dropped one bomb, and the Japanese did not surrender because they did not think we had been able to produce more than one bomb.

So they asked us to drop another. They were that confident. And what did we do? Well, Harry gave them Hell.

People will say that it wasnt something to be proud of, but can you look at me and say that any act commited in a war is something to be proud of? We did what needed to be done, and what did it get us? Victory.