Sony takes big step into home entertainment - PSX Announced

[DarkMaster]

This is not a video game console. It is a home entertainment system made by Sony, not SCE, Sony the electronics company. Adding the ability to play PS2 games does not make it a "video game console with extra things in it". It's exactly the opposite. The ability to play PS2 games was added because of the Playstation name (as a selling point) and to add more variety to the PSX's multiple features.

Regardless of whether this will or will not be the main idea that PS3 and Xbox2 will incorporate, that's still no reason to call an "all-in-one home entertainment system" stupid just because it somewhat associates with video games. Save you judgments and remarks for when the features of the next gen consoles are actually announced, rather than come right out and apply that they will be crap for no apparent reason.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by DarkMaster
This is not a video game console. It is a home entertainment system made by Sony, not SCE, Sony the electronics company. Adding the ability to play PS2 games does not make it a "video game console with extra things in it". It's exactly the opposite. The ability to play PS2 games was added because of the Playstation name (as a selling point) and to add more variety to the PSX's multiple features.

Regardless of whether this will or will not be the main idea that PS3 and Xbox2 will incorporate, that's still no reason to call an "all-in-one home entertainment system" stupid just because it somewhat associates with video games. Save you judgments and remarks for when the features of the next gen consoles are actually announced, rather than come right out and apply that they will be crap for no apparent reason.

THANK YOU! well said.

I estimate through long observation that Sony will launch the PS3 at a $299-$349 price tag (unless the US dollar goes bananas or something). That price point has proven to be very successful, and I don't see them straying away from it. At a $299 price tag, I'm content with a great, promising next gen GAMING SYSTEM. If it has extras, then it's a bonus for all I care. I do believe that Sony will release more multi-featured hardware not unlike the PSX after the PS3 is released (that is, if the PSX proves to be successful).

PS2 plays games......Gamecube plays games
PS2 plays CDs, DVDs.......Gamecube does not

If you don't want to utilize the CD/DVD playback feature, you simply don't. I can't possibly see how that could be considered a negative unless it drives the price tag way up (which it doesn't).

[TheGame]

GT is growing up so much...

Glad I don't have to post everythng to defend Ps2/Xbox anymore

Keep up the good work

[bobcat]

Originally posted by TheGame
GT is growing up so much...

Glad I don't have to post everythng to defend Ps2/Xbox anymore

Keep up the good work

Yes that's right.

If it's a Sony product, let's make sure that we don't complain (even if somebody has something to say about it) otherwise we're all Nintendo fanboys.

If that post was direct at me, there's my answer.

Also if the product had been made by any other company I would have said the same thing. I really don't like these type of devices because I know too well what the potential disadvantages they have.

IF Sony product, THEN don't complain ELSE Nintendo Fanboy.

[Perfect Stu]

Actually bobcat, I appreciate difference in opinion. I begin to think 'fanboy' when the user has a history of bashing anything *specific company*-related when not backing up their comments with logic or reason.

[DarkMaster]

Originally posted by bobcat
IF Sony product, THEN don't complain ELSE Nintendo Fanboy.

that's not the point at all, not in my mind anyway. What I have seen are people claiming this is the worst idea for a video game console, when in actuality it IS NOT a video game console. Then people say PS3 and Xbox2 will suck because the PSX is an example of the type of features those consoles will have. I don't think that's fair at all.

I didnt say I liked the PSX, nor did I say that I liked it. SCE is a branch of Sony, this product is not made by SCE. It's just Sony, and it has nothing to do with video games besides the fact that it has the add-on ability to play PS2 games. Even if I was biased towards SCE (which I'm not) I sure as hell wouldnt carry that bias into Sony electronics.

And I dont recall anyone calling you a nintendo fanboy, nor did anyone even imply it. If you don't like a product, go ahead and say it. If I counter your opinion with one of my own, it doesnt mean I think less of you because you disagree.

[Joeiss]

If it has nothing to do with videogames, shouldn't it be in the General Forum?

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by Joeiss
If it has nothing to do with videogames, shouldn't it be in the General Forum?

If I beat the crap out of you in a forest with no one else around, do you make a sound?



And it DOES have to do with videogames. Its name is the Playstation X. It plays PS2 games.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
If I beat the crap out of you in a forest with no one else around, do you make a sound?



And it DOES have to do with videogames. Its name is the Playstation X. It plays PS2 games.

In addition (which I had originally posted about but deleted after seeing that you had posted something extremely similar within the minute), This forum is about Playstation and Sony more so than the games. The Playstation X is indeed a part of Playstation.

[One Winged Angel]

This is just another way to sell the PS2. Sony is making a stupid multi-feature console to make more money. Wow... it can play PS and PS2 games. So can the Ps2. It can play Cd's and DVDs.. so can PS2. All I see it as is a mock off of TiVo with a DVD burner. I've been looking at TiVo and you have to pay a certain price a month or one set price forever to record movies and shows from satellite or cable. Is Sony going to do the same? Or is it going to be included with the PSX or are they going to charge extra for it? Now all I see is a DVD burner. If I wanted something that recorded shows from cable and satellite I'd buy a ****ing TiVO. I'm not going to trust a multi-feature piece of hardware, because those tend to create more problems. Especially since it's made from Sony, which has a history of making faulty products.

So, no chance in hell I'm buying it

[DarkMaster]

Originally posted by Joeiss
If it has nothing to do with videogames, shouldn't it be in the General Forum?

it has nothing to do with video games besides the fact that it has the add-on ability to play PS2 games

you see, it's clever little words like that which save my ass from making mistakes

[Cyrax9]

OK, honestly, some of you need ot WAKE UP!!

This is NOT a Game CONSOLE. This is a TiVo/VCR/DVD Player/ PS2 rolled into one box for Tech Geeks, I can honestly see it not even appealing to someone such as myself, a self-proclaimed "Tech Geek".

I remember whn I got my first MIDI-System Stereo. It had a Seperate Record Player (Sold Seperatly), Dual_Cassette Decks, an Am?FM Radio, and a new invention calld a CD Player, I still have it but over the years somethng happened. First the Record Player Broke, than the CD player, and then the Radio started to go and so did the left speaker.

Now I have to buy a whole new system or ge this hunk of junk repaired.

Sadly thats what the PSX is, it's a "MIDI-System" for a TV where the V is the "Record Player", sold seperatly.

I'm not agianst SOny COnsoles, I'm not even against M$ consoles, I'm against the idea of consoles that do everything short of make your breakfeast and wipe your @$$!
This thing isn't evena console, it's a COMPUTER.

China is gonna have a field day with it because they dn't even knwo weaher or not to classify the REGULAR PS2 as a Gaming Machine or a Computer, they'd have to classify tis thing as a military weapon!

I have to agree with gekko, this is NOT a good idea, and I'd like it to go down thecrapper STAT.

I HAVE a DVD Writer, a matsu****a/Panasonic DMR-HS2 Set-Top DVD Writer that cost me $850.00 last November, a GCN, a SONY VCR and a SONY DVD as well as an N64 all connect to my TV. If the GCN 2 is Backwards Compatible, I'll probably Disconnect the GCN 1 and connect the GCN 2, now what if my DVD Writer was part fo my GCN?Seems like a ight waste to upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.

Also I ca just see parts of the PSX Breaking in "Sections" first your DVD Writer goes, than your Game Playing piece, and finally, your CD Player. Basically it's a money hog, a black hole for your wallet and I hate those dang things!

I don't want a "Digital Media Lifestyle" I want compnetns that I can swap in/out of my se up when I FEEL like it, NOT when SONY says I should.

As good as this thing is it's not worth the probable cost, which will most likely be $600 or more, I'd wait AT LEAST until the PS3 Xbox 2 and GC2 come out before I added a DVD Writer to a game console and I'd only add it then because it would be cheap.

The advantage to a Console over a PC is GAMES. I bought my SNES because I was sick of typing "Edit Autoexec.bat" every time I wanted to change my DOS settings.

It was a pain in the @$$ to play a game on early PC's, it still is at times, on a Console I plug the game in, hit power and play it, simple as 1, 2, 3.

Also, it's getting tot he point where you need a PHD in electronics to fix your PC, and I don't want my game console like that, tweaking a PC adn tweaking a console are two differnt things and I like tweaking PC's the diea of going intoa game console chunrs my stomach as something that shouldn't ever be a requiremnt for repairs/upgrades.

Now, I'll leave you with this, Micro$oft is developing a second Behemoth, Sony is calling this... THING a game console, and I'm hoping my next NIntendo Console is NAMED GCN II and plays my old GCN games as wellas new Games, and really doesn't do anything else, if they thorw a GCN intoa new Panasonic/Matsu****a DVD Writer, fine but only if it was an "Extra device" and not a new console.

The Console wars are about to start again and this match may be pivotal.

[bobcat]

I understand this is not a games console, and I understand what market it's trying to market.

DM - Unfortunately I still feel this way about these forums. I know most of you aren't like this, but there are those few that are (and I'm sure it goes for Xbox/Ps2 fans 2). I guess it's part of the forums so yeh, but I just thought i'd say it. Those people know who they are

The PSX looks real snazzy, but putting so many things into one device is totally not feasible IMO. Going back to the printer/scanner/photocopier story..............


And Stu I respect your opinions 2.....

[Cyrax9]

Originally posted by bobcat
The PSX looks real snazzy, but putting so many things into one device is totally not feasible IMO. Going back to the printer/scanner/photocopier story..............

bobcat you JUST said what I wanted to hear!

I don't hate it because it's branded with the word "SONY", I ahve a SONY TV, I hjave a SONY VCR, I have a PANASONIC DVD Writer, I have a NINTENDO Gamecube adn an ALIENWARE PC, as well as twqo GATEWAY PCs, my brohers APPLE, and a BARGIN BASEMENT 486 plus a comp I'm gpnna build. I have an AIWA STEROE a SONY Steroea BOSE Wave Radio etc, etc.

I don't avoid a product because "Sony Sux", I'll avoid the PSX because there's too much that can go wrong in it for a SImple game system, and the fact that I have a DVD Writer, a Game Console, access to a PS2, and I don't WANT a crazy spin on throwing a Console into a PVR/DVD Player.

I don't hate Pioneer DVD-ROM drives because "Pioneer Sux" IO hate them ebcause I've had four of them break on me, and I don't hate the PS2, ifI culd afford oen I'd probably buy it and not just use my rbothers, I hate the Xbox not because it's made by Microsoft biut because it's a Sh*tty system in my opinion. I hate WIndowsbecause it's a bad OS< I like MS WORD though, and that's because it's easy to use. I like High-Speed AOL, I don't like Compuserve though because it's a dumbed down version of AOL.

When I hate somethng I give a reason, I hate the PSX because it's the Mini-System Stereo/Printer/Scanner/Copier problem coming to game consoles. I like a Stereo Mini-System to save space and money but in the long run, I almost wish I had a "Component Stereo" again, and I'll NEVER buy another "Disposabl PC" nor will I ever owna TV with a Built-In VCR. I hate them too for the same reason.

This is why I'm glad Nintendo didnt put a DVD Player in the 'Cube, and why I wouldn' put a ecorer in until the pirce drops, in 2006 Sony's PSX might be a good idea; right now, it's not.

Case and point: I use my GameCube to play games, and my DVD Writer to Watch/Burn DDs, I don't want to play Game s on my DVD Writer and I don't want to Burn DVDs on my Cube, my brother uses the PS2 fora DVD Player because i's all he can fit in his room, but honestly, why not produce units like that in limited quanites only then? Basuically a "Dorm Room Edition" that's designed ot save space.

The Panasonic Qube never made it to the USA because most Americans have DVD Players, I have a buddy with a DVD Player AND a PS2, and even he uses the player over the PS2, it's nice if you travel, but at that point I'd want a laptop to take with me, ro a portable DVD player.

My point is to mkae a game console, not a machine that controls your house, if the next set fo consoles has a system that wipes your @$$ after yout ake a cr@p, I won't buy it, I don't need a machine that makes toast wakes me and tells me whent og o to work, I can use an Alram clock a toaster and common sense for that.

I go through VCRs about ever 6 or 7 years, after that I have to replace them, If I had a PS2 burning DVDs I'd have to replace it every six or seven years and new consoles come out every 5 years or so, eventually I'd "Skip" a next-gen console due ot DVD Burner prices.

I'm also contet to keep my GAME SYSTEM as just that, a GAME SYSTEM, and while I'd eb content to surt the 'net from my GCN I'm also fine without that feature, if we could survive wtih the one-button Atari we can survive without DVD Writers in our console, the PSX looks like the next "Nuon". Remebr the Nuon? Thought not, it was a DVD Playe that could pla games as well, I think it tanked faster than the Virtual Boy, if you remebr that disaster congradualtions, it was Nintendos first failure, just like the first Sony Handheld and the Sega Master System, and the Atari 7800, you remerb the 7800, don't you? Don't you?

My point is this, the PSX is overloaded with CRAP, nothin useful to the average consumer and the people who would want ths could easily just pay SOny to do a "Special" system for them ebcause you'dhave to be kidna rich to afford this type fo game console with a DVD Writer.

Now by 2005/2006 I think the idea may be feisable, inf act I'd say "Go For it" but don't make it so that the focus is burning DFVDs, make the Focuys Playing Games and if evey Next-Gwen console burns DVDs and costs the same price I'll be happy, but it's when one cost more than thew rest that I get peeved, the Xbox was this console war's overpriced unit, last time it was the PSX, before that it was the Genesis and before that the NES.

But rthe NES prevailed, th PSX prevailed, tthe others didn't however.

Now if everyone is charhing $250-$300 fora console than I'm ok with this, but if SOny is gonna have an overpriced POS, screw them, if this is a Sub-console than fine but if this is the "next" PS2 screw it I wouldn't buy it.

[bobcat]

If I wanted a DVD burner, I'd want it separate. Lasers aren't "break proof". The more you use them, the more the laser wears out. I would NEVER invest in a DVD writer/CD/DVD/PS2/VCD player. Because it doesn't make sense in the long run.

At least until DVD burners are as cheap as regular CD burners (which will be a long time).

That's one of my complaints about things like this.