Gamecube 2 confirmed.. s'more

[Perfect Stu]

Nintendo is betting the farm? :eek:

For years I've wanted them to take much bigger risks, but throwing the word 'budget' out the window is damn-near insanity. Unless there are a few misinformed parties involved in this whole situation.

Nintendo has the talent, they have the money, they have the experience of being the top dog for a long time in different markets. The things that are holding them back, in my mind:

-conservative attitude
-stubbornness
-poor marketing and PR

As well as a poor understanding for modern concepts.

This news is hopefully one of many steps forward for Nintendo. The potential is still there, and it's why I remain open-minded despite what anyone else says.

[One Winged Angel]

I jsut hope they don't mess up like what Sega did.

[Dyne]

gcn2: Megaton? Could be.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by Dyne
gcn2: Megaton? Could be.

Megaton is not an actual, physical thing. It's a way of life

[bobcat]

I can tell you one thing......

Megaton is notagem

[Jonbo298]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
The things that are holding them back, in my mind:

-conservative attitude
-stubbornness
-poor marketing and PR

As well as a poor understanding for modern concepts.

Since the main stubborn man of Nintendo is gone and Iwata seems to be pointing Nintendo in a more competitive manner, I expect most if not all those problems you mentioned to be overcome. Their marketing is getting better, their attitude is to actually fight with the other companies, and they are slowly but surely listening to gamers/consumers now to see what we want and not just what Nintendo wants. So hopefully they continue this new trend because they will at least stand a chance next gen.

[CrOnO_LiNk]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu

-conservative attitude
-stubbornness
-poor marketing and PR

As well as a poor understanding for modern concepts.

This news is hopefully one of many steps forward for Nintendo. The potential is still there, and it's why I remain open-minded despite what anyone else says.

Although it's sad, it's also true. Looking back at Nintendo's history, you are right, they have been doing those stuff you mentioned.

I like Nintendo for their games. Just about all their games are quality titles. But those 3 things need to go away for them to successfully win the "Console War".

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by CrOnO_LiNk
Although it's sad, it's also true. Looking back at Nintendo's history, you are right, they have been doing those stuff you mentioned.

I like Nintendo for their games. Just about all their games are quality titles. But those 3 things need to go away for them to successfully win the "Console War".

Well, since Yamauchi has left the building, things have been quite different. Given time, I'm sure Iwata will probabaly do something. You can already see some of the differences.

[CrOnO_LiNk]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Well, since Yamauchi has left the building, things have been quite different. Given time, I'm sure Iwata will probabaly do something. You can already see some of the differences.

Yeah, but if you think about it, ever since Iwata came along, they only lost the conservative attitude. They still have stubbornness, poor marketing, and PR.

I think Nintendo has to learn the process of business. I am not one to talk, but they have been in this game for a long time now, they should understand what helps them along with what hurts them.

A good example is Squaresoft (SquareEnix now...), just take a good glimpse of how well they advertise and sell thier games.


How many of you liked the Mario Sunshine commercial?
How many of you liked the Kingdom Hearts commercial?

Now I am not saying the game sold good just because of the good commercial, but you got to admit, it did help a lot. Seeing the commercial for Kingdom Hearts made me want the game even more. But seeing the commercial for Mario Sunshine, I was just speechless and dissappointed in Nintendo.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by CrOnO_LiNk
Yeah, but if you think about it, ever since Iwata came along, they only lost the conservative attitude. They still have stubbornness, poor marketing, and PR.

I think Nintendo has to learn the process of business. I am not one to talk, but they have been in this game for a long time now, they should understand what helps them along with what hurts them.

A good example is Squaresoft (SquareEnix now...), just take a good glimpse of how well they advertise and sell thier games.


How many of you liked the Mario Sunshine commercial?
How many of you liked the Kingdom Hearts commercial?

Now I am not saying the game sold good just because of the good commercial, but you got to admit, it did help a lot. Seeing the commercial for Kingdom Hearts made me want the game even more. But seeing the commercial for Mario Sunshine, I was just speechless and dissappointed in Nintendo.

True.

It's a shame. Nintendo do have some good ads though (especially the Yoshi's Island one). And Zelda's is pretty good.

That's the reason why Nintendo aren't keeping up with Sony for sales. If they had the advertising of Sony, I'm sure they would have many more sales than currently.

But making ads etc is easier said than done i'm sure. We don't know how much the head guys of Nintendo are allocating for marketing etc, but it should be a lot more.

Kingdom Hearts ad is good, so are generally all of Sqauresofts ads.

As per the games themselves, well they both own IMO.

[Yoda9864]

I don't even remember a Super Mario Sunshine ad, which goes to show the ammount of advertising by Nintendo. I remember the one for Super Smash Bros.. It shows DK, Pikachu, Mario and Yoshi prancing and holding hands in a meadow, then all of a sudden they starts smacking each other around. That was awesome.

[Stonecutter]

Originally posted by Yoda9864
I don't even remember a Super Mario Sunshine ad,

You don't!

"Clean is better than dirty"

Remember now?

I think that ad single-handedly cost the game about 25,000 sales.

And I'm sure it won't be called gamecube 2 but does anyone want to bet they give it a name that's easy to slap on all of thier franchiese like "super" or "64"? They missed the boat with gamecube.

[TheGame]

Nintendo 256

Either way they better buy out Aki and make them create wrestling games for THQ

[Shadow_Link]

True, they really need to start making more, and better adverts. Try and emulate the Metroid Prime ad. The ads for the GBA: SP are pretty good too.