Just My Opinion...

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude


Also, the recent " Accident" Involving a British helicopter, being shot down by a US Patriot missle.... Umm, Patriot missles have to be fired manually, doesn't anyone else see a problem with this?

Forgot about this part.

Patriot missles don't necessarly have to be fired manualy. They can be set to shoot at anything that doesn't send out a proper IFF signal (Incoming friend or foe) Chances are the Brittish Tornado that was shot down turned off it's IFF squak to avoid being picked up by iraqi radar. If they forgot to turn it back on, on the way in there would have been nothing to stop a Patriot missle from identifiing it as a unfriendly. If it was travling slowly it could easily have bene confused for a sucd missle even if the Missle was being activaly manned and fired.

[One Winged Angel]

I'm retracting my comments. This is war is useless. America is going overboard in this war. I thought this was a war about killing Saddam and establishing a new government for Iraq, but this is aparently a load of ****. This is just trying to lower oil prices for us and we're killing innocents for our own greed.

Sorry for the bull**** I was mentioning earlier

[Jewels]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
I don't think you know why we're fighting this war do you. That was the most ignorant post I've ever read.

well said! you dork, we are fighting this war to help the better half of the iraq people, there leader is a butcher/rapist and is building nuclear weapons without anyone knowing, why do you think nato was int here for months trying to find and disable bombs, we gave saddam a chance to not fight the the lil beitch refused and now he wants a fight, ya good luck, there a country damn near the size of texas when we have how many troops, somewhere around 700,000 haha! i still dont think it wont last anymore than a month.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Jewels02
and is building nuclear weapons without anyone knowing

Funny how he's building them without anyone knowing, but you know of them! :eek:

[gekko]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
This is just trying to lower oil prices for us and we're killing innocents for our own greed.

Shows how little you know. But your opinion is always welcome, it's just not a valid opinion, and it's not respected. But hey, this wouldn't be America if people weren't allowed to voice their opinion where it is not wanted, nor welcomed!

well said! you dork, we are fighting this war to help the better half of the iraq people, there leader is a butcher/rapist and is building nuclear weapons without anyone knowing, why do you think nato was int here for months trying to find and disable bombs, we gave saddam a chance to not fight the the lil beitch refused and now he wants a fight, ya good luck, there a country damn near the size of texas when we have how many troops, somewhere around 700,000 haha! i still dont think it wont last anymore than a month.

We are going to war because it's in our best interest to go to war. It's about getting rid of a regime that we should've years before, and getting rid of the regime before it becomes a bigger threat on the American people. We do plan to help the Iraqi people, but we didn't go to war for them. If that were the case, we'd be fighting all over Africa as well.

NATO was not inspecting weapons, that was the UN, and they were in for years, not months. The country is roughly the size of California, not Texas, and there are 300,000 troops, not 700,000.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by gekko
Shows how little you know. But your opinion is always welcome, it's just not a valid opinion, and it's not respected. But hey, this wouldn't be America if people weren't allowed to voice their opinion where it is not wanted, nor welcomed!



We are going to war because it's in our best interest to go to war. It's about getting rid of a regime that we should've years before, and getting rid of the regime before it becomes a bigger threat on the American people. We do plan to help the Iraqi people, but we didn't go to war for them. If that were the case, we'd be fighting all over Africa as well.

NATO was not inspecting weapons, that was the UN, and they were in for years, not months. The country is roughly the size of California, not Texas, and there are 300,000 troops, not 700,000.

I'm saying we shouldn't be attacking Iraq yet. I think we're attacking so early because of their oil. If it was to take out a regime we wouldn't be in this war at all. North Korea has even more people tortured and starved to death than Iraq. Why aren't we attacking them? N. Korea even has at least 2 nuclear weapons.

I'm just saying this war is not all about taking out Saddam and his government.

[sdtPikachu]

Actually, One Winged Angel, I would disagree with you there. I would tender that it IS about removing Saddam and his gov, and replacing it with one primarily under US control. And anyone who got in with the US on the ground floor (eg UK) gets a divvy up of the proceeds, and anyone who opposed the US invasion doesn't.

It's called Imperialism, and it's one of the things that we Brits did well in the past. You know, "liberating" a country and claiming ownership.

[Smuggletrain]

Maybe you should educate yourself a little more before opening
your pie-hole.

Originally posted by Ravishing Rick Rude
President bush is quoted to say " Treat our POW's Humanely" Yes, much like he is doing with all the afgans sittin in cells smaller than most mid-sized cars.

Captured Afganis are not POW's. They do not form an Army as it is defined in the Geneva convention.

Call in the Air Support! According to reports there were less than 100 Iraqi soldiers and conscripts holding a town, and America, being the brave state they are, called in
F 16 fighters to Napalm them into next week, lovely don't you think?

Napalm is not an anti-infantry weapon. Artillery strikes were called
in, which is in line with modern combat procedure. If the enemy has
dug in, soften them up with artillery. War isn't about who's bravest,
it's about who wins.



As for the "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" rhetoric, if the U.S. wanted Iraq's oil
then why didn't they take it in '91 when the war was already won?
If the U.S. were that concerned about oil prices, we would have
attacked
Argentina when the oil workers went on strike, since we get more oil
from there than we get from the Middle East.

As for the WMD debate, it doesn't matter whether Saddam as WMD or not, the Scuds
he is currently launching violate the U.N. resolution 1441 because of the range that
they are capable of being fired. Whether or not he has the missile armed with nuclear,
biological, or any other warhead is a moot point.

As for the charges of imperialism, they are completely laughable.
The U.S. spent the first half of the 1900's giving emancipating all the foreign
territory it had acquired up to that point, Phillipines anyone?

The UN had given Saddam 12 years to conform to the regulations that had
been placed upon Iraq. Said regulations were suppose to be conformed to within 45 days.
The regulations passed the UN security council unanimously, so then why
were France, Russia, and China unwilling to enforce the same rules that they supported?
Peace was given a chance, and a very lengthy one at that.

[Bond]

Originally posted by sdtPikachu

It's called Imperialism, and it's one of the things that we Brits did well in the past. You know, "liberating" a country and claiming ownership.

Actually the United States is rather bad at Imperialism. We want to set up a temporary government, and then give the country back to the Iraqi people.

If that's where you were going with your statement...

[gekko]

Well, at least we have the Virgin Islands! It's too bad, we could have half the world by now

[mickydaniels]

This invasion is nothing but a big old joke. We're going in there to 'liberate' Iraq's people. JOKE!

I'll bet the whole city of Baghdad will be in ruins before this war is over. We are acting no differently than terrorists. Before the war started, there thousands of pregnant women lining up for Cesarean(?) sections because they knew that they would be putting themselves in a terrible position if they acted later. That's just like all the cowards here in NYC who are stocking up on all kinds of unnecessary supplies in fear of attacks. THis war is costing us billions every week. Billions that could be better used to fix the crappy school systems in big cities. Billions that could be used to actually provide healthcare for poor prople. Billions that could be used to help fix a damaged NYC and American psyche caused by 9/11. We're going after a useless Saddam, when we should be invading Saudi Arabia, who provided the breeding grounds for most of the 9/11 hijackers.

We've got enough problems over here. I don't see the point of lowering our standard of living by pouring BILLIONS out of this country into one that WILL NEVER BE CIVILIZED. Say what you want, but as soon as the troops leave, they'll just elect another dictator than will oppress them based on their Muslim teachings.

[gekko]

I wouldn't worry about NYC. 3,000 dead is a joke, to use your words. Let Saddam go on, and you'll be toying with the lives of tens of thousands.

[mickydaniels]

Originally posted by gekko
I wouldn't worry about NYC. 3,000 dead is a joke, to use your words. Let Saddam go on, and you'll be toying with the lives of tens of thousands.

Toying with the lives of tens of thousands?
Are you talking about here in America? Do you actually believe that crap? This nation is fairly isolated geographically from those savages. THe only nation I could ever see giving us problems in a war is Canada. Know why? Because when we fight wars, we fight on other people's land? Even if we 'lose', we still haven't lost a lot. But even if Iraq wins, they'll have to rebuild their nation as if it didn't exist. They'll have to start from ruins. We'll only lose the President's slaves.

But you know what I really like? The fact that Bush can't wait to get Sadddam out. The same guy that to this day, prolly didn't even win. Little does he know he's prolly setting himself up for the same thing come next year. :eek:

[sdtPikachu]

Originally posted by gekko
you'll be toying with the lives of tens of thousands.

And declaring war on Iraq isn't toying with Iraqi lives somehow? Or perhaps your American lives are more worthy than those of the Iraqi civilians...?

[gekko]

Well you truly know nothing about chemical and biological weapons. Let's use bio, it's easier and more effective as a terrorist weapon.

How hard do you think it would be to sneak a shoe box into America? Not by plane, through the Canadian border. The answer is: very easy. Now, little did you know, that shoe box is filled with a biological weapon. It's a very fine power, as soon as it's put in the air, it disappears. You can't see it, smell it, taste it, you don't know it's there. Symptoms don't show up for 3 days, after that time, everyone's already affected. Now release some of that power in a crowded area, such as a large shopping mall, or the streets on New York, and you'll have another 3,000 dead without a problem. But you don't need to empty the full shoe box, just a handful to get that affect. But we have a shoebox, so let's go for a more effective target, like the water supply. Hit the supply of a large city and you'll easy see tens of thousands drop like flies, or if you're lucky, you might hit half the city.

And then we can go back to the Democrats, now whining and bitching because no one did anything to stop it, and we can thank them for the deaths of every person.