Nintendo's Big Cheese Stands Alone - Page 3

Xantar · 01-18-2003, 11:19 AM

Once again, Perfect Stu, that's a nice argument if you have the numbers to back yourself up.

Yes, Nintendo is going to lose some gamers by not going online. But how many are they going to lose?

Let's be more specific for the sake of our problem here. How big will the GameCube's userbase be if it has an online plan? How many do they stand to lose over the next, say, 5 years if they don't go online? What does this translate into in terms of potential profit lost? Related to this is the question of how many gamers will be playing online in 2005 and how many will have broadband. Just saying that the IGNCube boards have gotten depressing doesn't cut it. So fans on the internet aren't happy. Well, what numbers does that tranlate into? How many people, to within a few ten thousand, will buy the next Nintendo console when it launches?

And of course, how much does it cost to set up an online plan? This depends on what online plan Nintendo chooses, of course, but we can be sure that they know what the costs involved are.

My point has been that Nintendo knows this information. You don't seriously think that Nintendo doesn't realize that they will lose some fans by not going online, do you? But apparently, Nintendo has decided that the loss in potential revenue is worthwhile compared to the cost of setting up a viable online plan. It may very well be the wrong decision. I never said Nintendo was perfect or prescient.

But they have solid, real numbers. You don't. And so you can't tell me with any kind of certainty that it's worthwhile for Nintendo to go online. Spouting an ethereal concept like "loyalty to customers" doesn't cut it.

Perfect Stu · 01-18-2003, 05:03 PM

You know what? I'm tired of convincing you. I know I'm right, and the fact that it doesn't 'cut it' for you and your Swarthmore bullcrap doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I ask myself why you're still defending Nintendo, when they're making decisions that hurt the consumer...maybe you're that much of a fanboy, that you put Nintendo ahead of your own gaming wants/needs. Maybe you work for Nintendo. Maybe you just wanted to use it as an excuse to enter an arguement having an entire corporation on your side, which in your mind you couldn't possibly 'lose'. That would certainly feed to your 'I'm smarter than you' attitude.

I represent a consumer and NOT a corporation...why SHOULD I put myself in Nintendo's shoes and convince YOU of all people that Nintendo should go online. Poll GT, ask them if they're satisfied with the news. Looks as though Smuggletrain has been thrown into some weird kind of depression and Stonecutter's head must be hurtin by now.

Xantar · 01-18-2003, 05:34 PM

Wait wait wait. Where was I defending Nintendo? I never said they are doing the right thing. I never said anybody should be happy about what they're doing. If I have, I take it back right now with profoundest apologies.

All I'm saying is that you don't know for sure that they've done the wrong thing by apparently deciding to wait until the next generation to go online. Nintendo doesn't either, but they have a much better idea than you.

This could end up being a mistake on the same level as going with carts in the N64 generation. I'm not discounting the possibility. But think about how unpredictable this industry is.

You have every right to complain about Nintendo doing things that don't satisfy the consumer. You are a consumer, after all. But you can't claim that what you want is also good for Nintendo. You just don't know that it is.

Ravishing Rick Rude · 01-19-2003, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
. Poll GT, ask them if they're satisfied with the news. Looks as though Smuggletrain has been thrown into some weird kind of depression and Stonecutter's head must be hurtin by now.

Heh, i just found this quote really funny, because earlier you were saying things so bad like it was the end of the world if you don't have online gaming, now you're trying to back yourself up by getting the opinions of like....what, 25 people. tops? and above all, most of them X-box and PS2 Fans

Perfect Stu · 01-19-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by The Ibrox Fox
Heh, i just found this quote really funny, because earlier you were saying things so bad like it was the end of the world if you don't have online gaming, now you're trying to back yourself up by getting the opinions of like....what, 25 people. tops? and above all, most of them X-box and PS2 Fans

most of GT Xbox and PS2 fans?