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Old 04-21-2011, 06:03 PM   #1
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Nice. Miyamoto: "You don't have to trust all the stuff you read."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...t-cafe-rumours
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Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3
Old 04-21-2011, 11:24 PM   #2
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Am I the only one that likes what I hear so far? Nintendo is FINALLY accepting HD technology for their next console, and from my understanding it appears motion control will be an option, but not necessairly a necessity as it was with the Wii. (and if anyone tries to argue with me, how many games had no motion control at all? Very few. Some definatley should have, but they always snuck some annoying motion control in there that was unnecessary.)

Plus, I think the screen in the controller could be a good idea, although I'll admit it sounds like it will make the controller cost a pretty penny.
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Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3
Old 04-22-2011, 01:33 AM   #3
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Yeah, I'm not getting the negativity. Maybe its just a knee-jerk reaction to all the excitement (and following disappointment) from the Gamecube and Wii?

I haven't heard anything crazy exciting, but it doesn't sound bad either. I'll probably buy one and I'll probably like the Zelda game they make for it, if nothing else.
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Old 04-22-2011, 09:58 AM   #4
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Am I the only one that likes what I hear so far? Nintendo is FINALLY accepting HD technology for their next console, and from my understanding it appears motion control will be an option, but not necessairly a necessity as it was with the Wii. (and if anyone tries to argue with me, how many games had no motion control at all? Very few. Some definatley should have, but they always snuck some annoying motion control in there that was unnecessary.)

Plus, I think the screen in the controller could be a good idea, although I'll admit it sounds like it will make the controller cost a pretty penny.
I don't think they are "accepting" it, much like when they switched to CD for the Gamecube, they just know it is harder to build a non-HD console this time around.

It was always a price/ownership thing for them.

I'm actually pretty disappointed they seem to be dropping motion. From the split design of the controller to actual motion/pointing, I thought this generation was fine. And was waiting for a refinement of the tech.

Right now, all I see is an expensive console with an expensive controller.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:41 AM   #5
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Nintendo producing a $350 console? FAKE.
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Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3
Old 04-22-2011, 10:17 AM   #6
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They'll be fully backwards compatible with Wii MotionPlus controllers so I don't really see where the motion controller fear is coming from. The waggle will have its place, it just won't be the primary focus of the system.

When Nintendo transitioned from GameCube to Wii they used similar hardware and scaled the processors in such a way that the clock speeds were divisible. This supposedly made backwards compatibility easier to pull off. I wonder if they'll do the same thing this time around or if they'll resort to software virtualization. Either way I really hope it's able to render Wii/GC games in HD.

IGN is restating that multiple sources confirm the system to be substantially more powerful than Xbox 360/PS3 and suggest a price between $300-$400.

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Old 04-22-2011, 10:39 AM   #7
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They'll be fully backwards compatible with Wii MotionPlus controllers so I don't really see where the motion controller fear is coming from. The waggle will have its place, it just won't be the primary focus of the system.

When Nintendo transitioned from GameCube to Wii they used similar hardware and scaled the processors in such a way that the clock speeds were divisible. This supposedly made backwards compatibility easier to pull off. I wonder if they'll do the same thing this time around or if they'll resort to software virtualization. Either way I really hope it's able to render Wii/GC games in HD.

IGN is restating that multiple sources confirm the system to be substantially more powerful than Xbox 360/PS3 and suggest a price between $300-$400.
Let's be honest here, being BC with the Wii Mote/Wii Mote Plus will do nothing. Much like the Wii being BC with the Cube controller. You'll get an odd game here and there which uses it, but it won't really be a refinement or advancement of the tech other than being there to appease fans who dig motion controls like myself.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:32 AM   #8
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I really hope motion controls take a back seat this time around. That gimmick was old a long time ago. My only regret is that so many games like Mario Galaxy had to settle for being great instead of legendary because they were held back by motion controllers.

Screen on my controller? I'm cool with that.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:38 AM   #9
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My only regret is that so many games like Mario Galaxy had to settle for being great instead of legendary because they were held back by motion controllers.
I don't know what people mean with this. SMG was great. There were so many fun pointing/tilting mini games in it that would have been less fun with a normal controller.
The only drawback I can think of is the waggle-to-spin thing.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:36 PM   #10
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I think motion has a place as a supplemental "once in a while" kind of thing. There are certain types of games that benefit from motion controls, but I think this generation has shown it is impractical to try to make every game include motion controls. I think basing future consoles on motion controls would be futile.

Sure, Nintendo won over a lot of casual gamers with the Wii. That audience, however, is only looking for certain kinds of games. They're not interested in relatively complicated "hardcore" games. They're not interested in amazing graphics or story or anything like that. The Wii, for the casual audience, was a fun toy that provided them plenty of cheap entertainment. They're not going to look for the "next" version of the Wii. They don't need it.

I think the recent releases of the Kinect and the PS Move showed this. It seems hardly anyone bought the Move and you don't hear much about it just a few months later. Audiences didn't care because it was basically the Wii 2. They already had that and they weren't interested in getting it again. The Kinect sold well, but it was also radically different. But, again, how many great games have come from it? You have the casual games and then....

I do think that if the next generation ignores motion controls completely there is some lost opportunity. There are games that benefit from motion controls. I think, though, Nintendo is smart not to be focusing on it this time around.
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Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3
Old 04-23-2011, 05:11 AM   #11
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I thought the controller screen was an awesome idea back when it was rumored for the GameCube. Now I'm not too sure. It's just too expensive and I don't see it work for too many things...
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Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3
Old 04-25-2011, 01:16 AM   #12
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Default Re: Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3

New and exciting rumors

Prototype/mock-up controller



http://www.01net.com/editorial/53199...-le-streaming/

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-Tentative release date of June 2012.
-Controller screen resolution of 800x500.
-Can play games, watch movies, and more without turning on the TV by just streaming them to the controllers. Can stream to multiple controllers at once.
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:55 AM   #13
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http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1163764p1.html

Actual confirmation. Enjoy.

New controller sounds badass actually.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:22 AM   #14
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Damn. I was secretly hoping they wouldn't release a new console so soon. Now I have to buy it
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:29 PM   #15
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That business memo looks extremely fake ... new console sounds interesting, though.

When is E3 this year?
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