Final Fantasy Megathread - Page 3

TheSlyMoogle · 04-04-2010, 12:27 PM

Also are you going to play final fantasy tactics? Because if you've never played it, I highly suggest you play it as part of this. Such an amazing game.

magus113 · 04-04-2010, 06:05 PM

Also, I got the airship and did my class change. Just getting some spells for the red wizard (which I haven't been really using much of so I guess I could have been better off with two warriors) and some other things I might have missed.

Running around looking for stuff had farmed like 400,000 gil for me so I was able to get the best weapon for the black wizard without a problem, along with the worthwhile lvl. 7 black and white magic.

Now to get the other two crystals taken care of.

magus113 · 04-04-2010, 11:52 PM

And FF1 completed! Gotta say, the more I played it, the more I realized that it hasn't really aged well at all.

Be that as it may, this is my first time finishing the game. Took me 13 hours and I'm glad I can add this game to my belt of finished classics if you will. Maybe one day I'll give FF1 a go on Origins or the original NES version to give myself a true test of difficulty, but for now FF2. I'll be playing the version on Origins for this one.

Let's hope I can stick it out this time.

magus113 · 04-05-2010, 09:10 AM

An hour into it and I can already tell that this might be troublesome.

Ginkasa · 04-05-2010, 01:28 PM

The best way to play II, IMO, is to go crazy and seriously overpower yourself in the beginning of the game. I had all three core party members at 1000+ HP with weapon skills or magic at level 10 before I even stepped foot into anything even slightly resembling a dungeon.

You don't maybe need to go that far with it if you don't have the patience or time, but training up to a respectable level will definitely make the game much more enjoyable. Otherwise its just frustrating.

magus113 · 04-05-2010, 02:15 PM

What I'm thinking of doing is having Maria as a mage, both white/black with more emphasis on white, and an archer since she'll be better taking less damage in the back (that's what he said). Firion can be the sword wielder with the shields and whatnot. Gus right now is just a brute. I already went to this place across the lake or whatever, forgot the name. I'll work on stuff around there.

magus113 · 04-05-2010, 09:49 PM

After playing about two hours and trying to the first boss taken care of to get the Mythril, I can't help but feel like I accomplished absolutely nothing at all. I mean not only that, but I got my ass kicked by this guy. Barely made it out alive.

I mean am I doing something wrong here?

magus113 · 04-06-2010, 12:53 AM

I started over, I got another two hours in.

I have Firion as a white mage because of his agility, and the spirit will come with abuse of the white magic usage. He knows Cure which is about to become Cure 3 pretty soon, and he's proficient enough with a sword when his MP runs out with the healing spells from overuse.

Maria is my black mage and she sits in the front for right now to get some more damage to bring her HP up. She has all the black magic spells available from the first town and they're all at least level 2 right now, and I haven't set foot in Fynn yet.

Gus is just riding it out, but he's able to do okay with very minimal armor right now since the enemies don't hurt too hard but they hurt enough to get the HP stats up, but I think that's something I'll worry about more when I'm gonna set into the first dungeon later. I'll focus more on stats and skill progression for the time being.

To give the enemies more chances to attack me for raising my HP stat, I actually have Maria cast a black magic spell on my entire party and then Firion comes in and heals the entire party while Gus takes out the enemies one at a time. It seems to be working out well enough on the world map. If Firion runs out of MP, then he assists Gus, and Maria casts BM spells on individual enemies. Once Maria and Firion are out of MP it's back to the Inn and repeat.

At least I'll have a shitton of money by then to get all the other spells I'll be missing.

Ginkasa · 04-06-2010, 03:47 AM

Basically, the key is just get your stats up. You're doing it completely differently from how I did it, but I think it should work. Depending on your play style you might regret later on having Firion as a white mage. I'm not exactly an expert, but I've had Maria handling both schools of magic. Firion and Gus both act as the physical attackers.

I'm ridiculously overpowered, though, so your strategy might work better for a "normal" team.

magus113 · 04-06-2010, 04:33 PM

I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of things, even if it is a tad monotonous and time consuming. Just got the Mythril again and it went much much smoother this time.

It's a shame this game seems unplayable to me without exploiting the whole "attacking your own members or yourself for endurance and HP points" stuff. I couldn't imagine it working out that well without it.

magus113 · 04-08-2010, 02:59 AM

9.5 hours into it and that long grind session for the first five hours is really starting to show how well it pays off. I've only had to worry about gil as far as buying armor is concerned. My characters are all generally strong now too, so I haven't found it completely necessary to be buying new weapons for my characters.

I'm currently on the way to get the Goddess Bell. Josef is already in my party. Just making my way through the Snow Cavern and taking my time to make sure I check everything out before I eventually take out the boss.

Oh and bump! I hope I'm not the only one still doing this D:

Ginkasa · 04-08-2010, 03:04 AM

I'm... I don't know how many hours into it, but I've retrieved Ultima and the Emperor has unleashed the Cyclone. Firion and Gus both have 3000+ HP. Maria only has about 1700. Firion is maxed on swords, Gus on axes. Maria has all the spells I frequently use at 10+. I have, like, 300,000+ gil.

I expect I'll finish and post full impressions in a day or two. Maybe three.

TheSlyMoogle · 04-08-2010, 10:18 AM

The Brotherhood of the Traveling Shank

Day 1:

So I started off today, with 4 thieves, named:
John
Ryan
Bill
and for hilarity... EARL in all caps. Just so when I lose the battles I know I inevitably will lose, I can blame it on Earl.

Oh and the rest of this post will have to wait for a bit.

magus113 · 04-08-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

I'm... I don't know how many hours into it, but I've retrieved Ultima and the Emperor has unleashed the Cyclone. Firion and Gus both have 3000+ HP. Maria only has about 1700. Firion is maxed on swords, Gus on axes. Maria has all the spells I frequently use at 10+. I have, like, 300,000+ gil.

I expect I'll finish and post full impressions in a day or two. Maybe three.

Just out of curiosity it seems like you have so much time to dedicate to this...how?!

Ginkasa · 04-09-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by magus113

Just out of curiosity it seems like you have so much time to dedicate to this...how?!

Funds have been pretty low, so my wife and I haven't really been able to go out and do a whole lot lately. We usually just veg around at the apartment when I'm not working and she's not at school. I'm either playing a game (which is, of course, been Final Fantasy lately) and she's either doing homework or procrastinating on her homework and playing a game. Sometimes we watch a movie.

Hopefully in the next couple of months we'll be moved and settled and I'll have less excuses to stay home and do nothing. Although, it really only took me about 22 hours to beat FFII which really isn't that much, relatively.

Oh, yeah, I just finished. Beat the Emperor in just one hit. I was crazy over-powered. Ultimately, even though the game is completely broken on multiple levels there is still fun to be had. It was kind of cool not having to worry about, you know, dying or anything like that. I just sort of breezed through the game. Since everything I've read suggests that not being overpowered causes the game to be uber frustrating and not fun at all I don't really mind the lack of a challenge.

Also, except for the initial training hump at the beginning (about 4 or 5 hours total) it wasn't that difficult maintaining my advantage.

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One thing I noticed about II which I wasn't expecting was actually how much more it felt like a Final Fantasy game over I. Mostly everything you hear about II is regarding the awful "levelling" system and how its broken and unbalanced. The general expectation is that the game is nothing like other Final Fantasy games, but I think its really the opposite. If it wasn't for the Black and White Mages there's really nothing in I that reminds you you're playing an FF game. II, however, has a story that fits in well with the rest of the series, chocobos, Cid, dragoons, an ambiguously evil/good guy, etc. Almost everything that really defines Final Fantasy (at least through to IX) really came from II.

The story, also, is pretty hardcore as far as things go. This most certainly has the highest body count of real characters of any core FF and really paints a bleak picture. I mean, you kill the main bad guy only for him to conquer and break out of hell and unleash it upon the earth. Sephiroth can't claim that. The only real issue with the story is presentation which is expected since it was an NES title originally. If SE ever thought to themselves "We should totally remake Final Fantasy II with and expanded story, better developed characters, and a completely rebuilt from scratch game design!" I would totally buy it. I don't know. I just see a lot of fluffy awesome potential in II's story.

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Anyway, that's it for me on FFII. If anyone (magus) is still playing II, feel free to go at your own pace. Same thing if anyone is on I (I want progress updates on your thief run, TSM!). I'll be moving on to III soon. I think there were some people waiting for III (?), so maybe we'll get some more company soon.