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First: Barney Frank is the man
Second: Are these town hall meetings making anyone else worried about America? I mean, I appreciate free speech, but can't we do it without going fucking insane? That woman in the second video...there are just no words for the ignorance and hatred. Shame on you is right, yeesh.
Second: Are these town hall meetings making anyone else worried about America? I mean, I appreciate free speech, but can't we do it without going fucking insane? That woman in the second video...there are just no words for the ignorance and hatred. Shame on you is right, yeesh.
Well, I think to some degree the "out of control" town halls are being greatly exaggerated by the sensationalist media. Also, one has to assume the majority of these town halls are being held during the day. Who is available during the day? The elderly and unemployed. Passion is overwhelming rationality.
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Well, I think to some degree the "out of control" town halls are being greatly exaggerated by the sensationalist media.
I don't know Bond.. what exactly has to happen before it's not seen as an exaggeration? Do the people with assault rifles need to let some rounds loose?
I'll admit that the responce by Barney Frank sounded a little set up.. But it doesn't change that these extremely ignorant people are showing up with those offensive posters, asking stupid questions, and trying to drown out opposing views.
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1) The gun thing, while a concern and should be monitored, it severely overblown. The story about the guy with the gun was journalism at it's worst. If he had it hidden under a coat and was trying to sneak in to the meeting, then it should have been given the attention TYT gave it, but then again, it's TYT. Did anyone ask why he decided to wear his licensed gun? My guess is that he was making a non-verbal statement about 2nd amendment rights because of Presdient Obama' background in Illinois when ti comes to gun rights, not intending on threatening President Obama's life. If anything, it's likely a cultural misunderstanding.
2) Yes, there are nutjobs at these meetings, but have you ever been to or seen a leftist protest where they literaly have assaulted the vehicles that President Bush and his entourage rode in or burned his image in effigy? Lets not pretend this is solely a problem on the right. At least so far these protesters have only expressed themselves verbally. I mainly chalk it up to poorly thought out expressions of discontent, but anti-semites and the like and not reflective of the majority of these people, IMO
3) Working from home several days a week, I've seen many of the town halls broadcast live and like Bond stated, the media is playing up the most irate people because its more entertaining. There are a lot of very good questions that are not being answered honestly in the process, and that is only adding to the catcalls and outrage.
4) Speaking of dismising dissent and drowning out opposing views, the democrats aren't doing themelves a favor by accusing THEIR dissenters of not having their own opinions and dismissing them as "astroturf" and only speaking because their Republican masters told them to. If I were them, I'd feel ignored, disenfranchied and angry too. The problem is that anger is not productive.
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I couldn't find the actual news clip, but here's one from a left wing radio show.
Don't mind the comentary too much.. even though I agree with what he is saying.
(There's also another story where a guy brought a AK-47 to a town hall meeting.)
This is in part why I don't agree with all of this imagry that's being shown on TV and people trying to act like Obama's some evil dictator or something even when he hasn't done much of anything yet that the majority american people don't agree with.
I think eventually someone is going to do something very stupid, and it's going to cause more freedoms to be taken away in the long run.
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I don't know prof, when you consider the sign the guy was holding along with having his gun, it seemed like an obvious threat or attempt at intimidation.
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Oops, somehow I didn't catch the sign (in hindsight I'm not sure how, I might have only been listening to the video and not watching it), only the gun. You're right, he's a nutter, even if he means it just to put a point across. I hope the FBI is looking into him, quite honestly.
I retract point one.
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Evidently the original artist of that Obama poster goes to UIC. Apparently the picture was stolen and "socialism" was added to it. There was an psuedo-interview with the artist, and I think (I skimmed...will get back later) the intentions where not racist or to suggest Obama is socialist.
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