Colbert is Rude

[manasecret]

What I don't understand is what you three want from Prof. S.

Do you want him to agree with everything you (or someone else) says, to give everyone a virtual handjob all the time?

I can't believe that's what you really want. So if not that, then what? Do you want him to be nicer when he tells you you're wrong? If that's the case, then face it -- you would be upset no matter how he told you you were wrong. Typhoid in particular is told he's wrong practically every day by Prof. S, do you want him to be nicer, is that it? (Now I wonder if it's you, Typhoid that's actually wrong all the time, or if it's just that big meanie Prof. S just always picking on you with logic and reason?)

But seriously, each of you need to ask yourself -- what is it I want from arguing with Prof. S? If you want nothing, then you're wasting your time.

Oh, yeah, and let's everyone eat a dick. Because I know how funny that is.

[Swan]

I find it slightly amusing that the three discussing or arguing or whatever with him all happen to know each other in real life. No real correlation to anything just amuses me.

I almost feel as if I should join in just for the hell of it but I don't really have anything usefull to add. I also don't really care. This banter always amuses me.


So this post turned out to be of little use....Neat!

[manasecret]

You don't think they talk about Prof. S together when they hang out together, do you?

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by manasecret

You don't think they talk about Prof. S together when they hang out together, do you?

what else would they talk about while staring at their Professor S posters?

[BreakABone]

So what about that Colbert?

Anyone see the giant check last night.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

So what about that Colbert?

Anyone see the giant check last night.

Yeah! That ruled. Colbert is awesome. So is John Stewart.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Yeah! That ruled. Colbert is awesome. So is John Stewart.

What a dick move on Colbert's part.

Oh, Dylan when we hang out tomorrow, want to invite Dyne, Foxxy, and Swan over so we can all talk about Gametavern?!

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by Swan

I find it slightly amusing that the three discussing or arguing or whatever with him all happen to know each other in real life. No real correlation to anything just amuses me.

I almost feel as if I should join in just for the hell of it but I don't really have anything usefull to add. I also don't really care. This banter always amuses me.


So this post turned out to be of little use....Neat!

yo jonads! Rambo after the regular sunday brunch?

and yeah. FREE SPEECH ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!

[The Germanator]

What a wacky thread this is. You guys are crazy. I'm in Sunbury, Ohio. How about that?

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

What a wacky thread this is. You guys are crazy. I'm in Sunbury, Ohio. How about that?

How is everything working out for you in Sunbury, my friend?

[The Germanator]

I don't know...There are is a Waffle House and amazingly a Tim Horton's. I don't know if I've ever seen one this far south.

[Professor S]

The funniest part fo this thread is that we were actually having a decent discusion about the honesty of the politics on both Daily and Colbert, and I didn't think I was being rude at all, just pointing out differences of opinion.

Then I was told to "eat a dick". Even if meant as a joke, it was intended at my expense.

And somehow I'm the bad guy?

The bottom line is that I treat differentiating opinions with the same respect that is given by those that have them. Ever wonder why Xantar and I never agree on anything yet we get along wonderfully? Its because we respect each other's opinions because they are supported by evidence and executed with logic and reason. The whole idea of "I don't have to support my arguments" is completely foreign and idiotic to me, so I treat it as such.

Dyflon, Typhoid, etc... If you want to have a serious discussion about politics, then treat your views with seriousness, and not apathy. Educate yourself as to why you feel this way, instead of just saying "Hey, its my opinion! You can't tell me my opinion is wrong!" But if you are educated on your opinion...

PLEASE SHARE IT! I want to know why you feel the way that you do, not that you just do! I want our discussions to enlighten both of us, and if you know something that I don't, I pray for you to share it with me! But I won't just take your word for it when my own information about the same subjects leads me to believe differently.

When people make arguments and do not explain why they feel that way with anything besides "Its my opinion", its easy to assume them to be fools ruled by emotion and not reason, and my snide comments meant as challenges to get more out of you (I can see now its worked wonderfully). I'd just like to see the information and validation match the passion of your opinions. I don;t have to agree with you or change your mind to respect your opinion. I just need to see where your coming from.

People say I think its a game, but it seems to me that out of the people here that do talk politics, I'm one of the few that take it seriously enough to justify my arguments, and that frustrates me to no end.

And Tim Horton's is AWESOME. When I lived in St. Kitts I got coffee there every morning. Their sandwiches SUCK, though. The coffee makes up for it.

Anyway, I hope that explains my thought process through our political discussion.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Dyflon, Typhoid, etc... If you want to have a serious discussion about politics, then treat your views with seriousness, and not apathy. Educate yourself as to why you feel this way, instead of just saying "Hey, its my opinion! You can't tell me my opinion is wrong!" But if you are educated on your opinion...

I don't mean this in typical me/you argument fashion, but show me where I did that?



Also, funny story about Tim Horton's:

The Canadian troops stationed in Iraq/Afghanastan (I forget which one) were complaining that the coffee wasn't being shipped in fast enough. So what was the solution? They built a goddamn Tim Horton's in the middle of the goddamn desert. The ironic part, is that the Tim Horton's employees wear dark brown, compared to the Canadian militaries camo green, and thusly are more camoflaged than our own friggin' military.

All that did was remind me of a comedian's joke:

"I have this theory, that you can build a Tim Horton's anywhere, and a small town will spring up around it. Old people from the east will park their RV's there. Small shops will open up to cater to them. A motel or two will spring up. And suddenly you have Barrie."

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Professor S

The funniest part fo this thread is that we were actually having a decent discusion about the honesty of the politics on both Daily and Colbert, and I didn't think I was being rude at all, just pointing out differences of opinion.

Then I was told to "eat a dick". Even if meant as a joke, it was intended at my expense.

And somehow I'm the bad guy?

The bottom line is that I treat differentiating opinions with the same respect that is given by those that have them. Ever wonder why Xantar and I never agree on anything yet we get along wonderfully? Its because we respect each other's opinions because they are supported by evidence and executed with logic and reason. The whole idea of "I don't have to support my arguments" is completely foreign and idiotic to me, so I treat it as such.

Dyflon, Typhoid, etc... If you want to have a serious discussion about politics, then treat your views with seriousness, and not apathy. Educate yourself as to why you feel this way, instead of just saying "Hey, its my opinion! You can't tell me my opinion is wrong!" But if you are educated on your opinion...

PLEASE SHARE IT! I want to know why you feel the way that you do, not that you just do! I want our discussions to enlighten both of us, and if you know something that I don't, I pray for you to share it with me! But I won't just take your word for it when my own information about the same subjects leads me to believe differently.

When people make arguments and do not explain why they feel that way with anything besides "Its my opinion", its easy to assume them to be fools ruled by emotion and not reason, and my snide comments meant as challenges to get more out of you (I can see now its worked wonderfully). I'd just like to see the information and validation match the passion of your opinions. I don;t have to agree with you or change your mind to respect your opinion. I just need to see where your coming from.

People say I think its a game, but it seems to me that out of the people here that do talk politics, I'm one of the few that take it seriously enough to justify my arguments, and that frustrates me to no end.

And Tim Horton's is AWESOME. When I lived in St. Kitts I got coffee there every morning. Their sandwiches SUCK, though. The coffee makes up for it.

Anyway, I hope that explains my thought process through our political discussion.

I've understood what you do for a long time. I'm pretty sure most everyone else here understands that, they just don't write posts saying they do. What gets me is that Typhoid and Dylflon and Fox 6 and the like don't get it.

I prefer talking to people who are willing to and in fact do tell me I'm wrong (it happens a lot), and back it up with logic, reason, and facts. To me, that's a sign that that person intellectually respects me enough not to just gloss over what he/she really thinks.

I do the opposite all the time. If I think some guy blathering on about some opinion of his is completely stupid, I usually just agree with whatever they have to say so I can be lazy and not have to waste my time explaining why they're wrong. I've made a prejudice decision and assumed that this person is just an all-around idiot and doesn't deserve my time. I have no respect for him intellectually. Which is a dick thing to do. I prefer people who, quite simply, aren't dicks, who will take the time to tell me how I'm wrong. They may seem like big meanies, but really the bigger dick is the one who just pays you lip service.

[Typhoid]

Manasecret, we (at least I do, I can't speak for them) do get "it".
Assuming a little too much?

I'll speak personally, because I can't for them.

I want nothing from him. Considering me and him were having a civilized conversation. To be lumped into this escalation between Dylan and Strangler makes it seem like you didn't even read the thread and just felt now would be a good time to jump in and see what comes of it.

You may not understand why all of us argue on the boards. It's because we're all strongly opinionated. Just because we go post our opinions in different ways, doesn't mean we believe any "less strongly" than who we happen to be talking to.

I prefer talking to people who are willing to and in fact do tell me I'm wrong (it happens a lot), and back it up with logic, reason, and facts. To me, that's a sign that that person intellectually respects me enough not to just gloss over what he/she really thinks.

The thing about logic and reason, is that they're clearly subjective. The classic fallback to explain that is God vs Science. Each side won't really ever understand the other side's without being patronizing. As for facts, we're most of the time jabbering back and forth about personal opinions on politics. Like why someone believes what they do, why someone acts some way they do. And there's no "fact" for that.

What bugs me so much about the posters in this forum, is that while they (not directed at anyone in particular) take everything with a grain of salt, they think whoever their arguing with is taking the words to heart.

I may argue back with Strangler a lot, but that doesn't mean I'm letting the words get to me. It just means I'm debating back. Just as he is.