Dream Drive

[The Germanator]

I'm not really interested in a dream car or anything, but I guess I'll say the car I drive now. I drive a 1990 red Chevy Lumina with like 67,000 miles on it, it runs fine and well, and has a CD player, so I'm good.

[jeepnut]

Originally posted by gekko


Problem is when you give the Jeep 16" on ground clearance, it becomes too top heavy and tips easily. Sorry, but if I'm rock climbing, I wouldn't want my car to tip. Also, the driveline is still low, and will easily hit. Unless you found some way to move it up, but the one you pictured doesn't. Sure you can raise up the car 8", but really, your clearance is only to a little less than the center of the wheels. Let's not forget the body of the Hummer can take much more abuse than the body of a Jeep.

Heritage may be the same, but things have changed. The Hummer remains a vehicle meant for off-road driving, and taking a lot of abuse. The Jeep is a vehicle for the road, and it's meant to be lightweight, not durable. Hell, watch the 5mph crash tests some times, the Jeep hits a pole at 5mph and you got hundreds worth of damage, the Hummer gets hit full speed by an oncoming sports car, and it's license plate gets bent. Sure it may cost more, but your Jeep isn't going to be more capable than the Hummer, ever.

Hate to tell you this, but a Hummer has 11 inches of ground clearance, not 16. And you can't lift it. A Jeep Wrangler is 8 inches, stock. You can lift that, swap axles, shave things for more clearence, make the wheelwells bigger to clear bigger tires, swap drivetrain components, whatever you need. There is no place a Hummer can go that a Jeep is some form can't also go for a lot less.

Sure it is more durable in a crash test. It's a military vehicle. A freaking tank on wheels for goodness sake. That doesn't mean that it can go everywhere a Jeep can. All that durability adds up to weight. In the world of rock crawling, weight and size matter. The Hummer is too heavy and too big. And that 6.5L diesel leaves the Hummer pitifully underpowered. The suspension is designed for a 3,750 pound payload. That means it doesn't flex well at all unless loaded. It's cramped inside, nothing is in good reach of any passenger, and the fit and finish is decent. Fairly worth my 100 grand.

Believe my gekko, I used to think the same thing about the Hummer. And I still believe it is an amazing vehicle and can do some cool stuff. It's great for what the Army uses it for, but in civilian form, it's just a status symbol.

[Xlinx]

All you pre-pubescent newbs who picked a Celica, mr2, or some other ****ty jap car can kiss my ass...

It's obvious no one here is smart enough to appreciate the thrill of a fine rotary engine. If you're going to go Japanese, Mazda is the only way to go. Rx7, Rx8, it doesn't matter as long as you have rotary goodness. Imagine virtually no red line and a power to liter ratio that outdoes all but the most highly tuned formula one cars... I’ve seen 3 rotor rx7 engines with just after market turbo kits, intercooler, and exhaust put out an insane 900+hp with no other mods. Not only is the power on the Mazdas amazing, but the handling is about as tight as you can get without going to the 100k+ range. Rx7 stock from the factory pulls a 1 on the skid pad. Until recently Ferrari’s struggled to do that.

For those of you who picked a nice muscle car, I applaud you. And I can also appreciate a nice off road vehicle. But for God's sake, quit fantasizing about those ****ty little 4 cylinder pieces of ****e.

[Revival]

Me? A newbie?

Been around a hell of a lot longer than you have... I was here since GT opened.

*points to post count*

Yeah...

[gekko]

Originally posted by Xlinx
All you pre-pubescent newbs who picked a Celica, mr2, or some other ****ty jap car can kiss my ass...

It's obvious no one here is smart enough to appreciate the thrill of a fine rotary engine. If you're going to go Japanese, Mazda is the only way to go. Rx7, Rx8, it doesn't matter as long as you have rotary goodness. Imagine virtually no red line and a power to liter ratio that outdoes all but the most highly tuned formula one cars... I’ve seen 3 rotor rx7 engines with just after market turbo kits, intercooler, and exhaust put out an insane 900+hp with no other mods. Not only is the power on the Mazdas amazing, but the handling is about as tight as you can get without going to the 100k+ range. Rx7 stock from the factory pulls a 1 on the skid pad. Until recently Ferrari’s struggled to do that.

For those of you who picked a nice muscle car, I applaud you. And I can also appreciate a nice off road vehicle. But for God's sake, quit fantasizing about those ****ty little 4 cylinder pieces of ****e.

Rotary engine? ROFL. Why even bother buying a car that requires that much maintenance? There's a good reason why no one uses rotary engines anymore. Virtually no redline Also, it is impossible for a RX-7 engine, with just a turbo kit, intercooler, and exhaust, to put out 900+ HP. You're not fooling anyone.

The RX-7 is a great car, but it is costly, and requires a ton of maintenance, so it's not a good daily driver. It's also funny how those 4-cylinder cars pump out over 400HP, and still make great daily drivers and get good gas mileage. Try that with your muscle cars.

You might want to take the time to learn to drive, and learn more about cars before you try to convince us the RX-7 is God's gift to the world. And the RX-8? Eww...

I ride the subway.

[Xlinx]

First of all.... I've been in a Rx7 that runs 7.5 in the quarter, and that was by no means a professional drag car (although they were running slicks). 900 hp is entirely possible... add the third rotor and some quality aftermarket parts (notice I did say the 3rd rotor). I'm sure there are professional drag versions of the rx7 that have more than that...

The Rx8 is stock 2 rotor 250 hp no turbo. While the car itself isnt as impressive as the Rx7, the engine is a marvel of mechanical engineering. A stock Rx7 turbo came with 300 but with an inexpensive chip the hp could be boosted to 400+. That’s a grand total of about 35 dollars in mods to have an Rx7 outperform a 4 cylinder pos with thousands of dollars of mods. Also with a good aftermarket intercooler (admittedly a necessity), the rotary engine is completely reliable. The only part that lowered the reliability was the heat generated by the turbos. The rotary itself is probably the most reliable engine on earth since it, idealistically, has 4 moving parts.

Also I wasn’t talking about newbie-ness being a factor of making stupid posts (in which you have infinitely more experience then me), but more a knowledge of general automotive mechanical operations (in which doubt any of you hold an edge over me).

Good day.

[gekko]

3 Rotor RX-7? Sorry, must've missed that. I was thinking 2, which is a different of what, 350HP? 600 to 900 is possible with the right boost from the turbo. Still, you're comparing an $80,000 vehicle with cars that are around $20,000. It's not really in the same league as any 4-cylinder engine. I could make 2 10-second Civics for that price. Got any dyno charts proving your ECU claim? Adjusting the fuel curve with stock parts for 100HP gain? I won't believe it unless you can prove it.

As for reliability, I've heard the Wankel rotary engines break down more often, and require much more maintenance, which to car freaks isn't bad, but isn't practical for a lot of people.

[GameKinG]

I hate celicas! Everybody has one around here and they arent even that good.

[sdtPikachu]

Dream drive:

A car
Good friends
Good music
Good weather
Good surroundings
All the time in the world

[Shadow_Link]

For the love of God, why would ANYONE in their right mind go for a Celica or MR-2? I would understand anyone picking a Supra TT. And don't get me started on the RX7 :eek:

Here's what you people should be looking at!

The BMW M3:

The thing is capable of 341 bhp, it's electronically limited to 155 mph, 0-62 mph in 5.2 secs. And it's a 3.2 litre Pretty impressive as it doesn't need a turbo or super charger.

BMW M5:


Now this beast is one of my favourities. On the outside, it may look like one medium to big sized saloon, ala 5 series. Look closer, and you will notice the 4 exhaust pipes and the M badge. Drive it, and you will be amazed! Besides the fact it has 400 bhp, it too is electronically limited to 155 mph.

Note the fact that these are german cars, and will NEVER break down .

There are more cars I will post about, just a bit later.

[gekko]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Now this beast is one of my favourities. On the outside, it may look like one medium to big sized saloon, ala 5 series. Look closer, and you will notice the 4 exhaust pipes and the M badge. Drive it, and you will be amazed! Besides the fact it has 400 bhp, it too is electronically limited to 155 mph.

It's a great luxury car, but far from my dream car.

But you do realize it's only dual exaust, don't you?

[Shadow_Link]

Gekko, both the cars have 4 exhausts Just look closer. Anyways, I would know, I have driven them .

You're right, it is a GREAT LUXURY CAR, and and even better sports car at that, it absolutey rockets! It's the fastest saloon on the road .

But wait, I have other 'dream cars' . Just later...

[jeepnut]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
It's the fastest saloon on the road .

Saloon? You drinking and driving in these things?

[gekko]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Gekko, both the cars have 4 exhausts Just look closer. Anyways, I would know, I have driven them .

Umm... it has dual exhaust. Having a dual-tipped exhaust doesn't count as dual exhaust. It has 2 exhaust pipes. going to 2 mufflers, both with dual-tips. It's still only dual exuast, which is nothing to brag about.