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Re: My Daughter's A Tramp, Isn't It Cute?
Old 06-21-2006, 03:41 PM   #31
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Bond, you're missing my point completely. I don't know if thats just a reading comprehension issue (I doubt it, you're a smart guy) or you're just trying to find an arguement when there isnt one there.

Using my example again...suppose the bear knew that biting off someone's hand is a terrible thing to do. Let's say the bear gets shot afterwards, assuming the punishment fit the crime. That doesnt change the fact that the person still is left with only one hand, and the only sure way for the whole situation to be avoided would be to not slap on a bunch of honey.

I cant stand people who commit crimes let alone rapists/sexual predators, but this has nothing to do with that.


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You're not addressing Stu's point. Yes, you can blame human instinct, but blame is different than an excuse. People do stupid, cruel and inhuman things all the time, and many times its either in the nature to do so or their actions are a result of their present condition.

None of this means the perpetrator shouldn't be punished; they should be punished to the fullest extent. It also doesn't make the girl any less raped. Whether its right or wrong to expect young women to dress more conservatively doesn't matter. Its irrelevant. What does matter is the reality of the situation, not the utopian ideal.


Exactly.
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Re: My Daughter's A Tramp, Isn't It Cute?
Old 06-21-2006, 10:48 PM   #32
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id like to point out that there are guys out there who wont accept sex from any most women, and ARE NOT HOMOSEXUAL myself included.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:25 AM   #33
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Same here MrCoffee. I'm still a proud virgin.
And I know most people will think I'm trying to talk myself out of the fact that I didn't have sex yet, but then consider this: I had a girlfriend for a year and we chose not to have sex. Religious principles aren't easily broken.
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Re: My Daughter's A Tramp, Isn't It Cute?
Old 06-24-2006, 02:06 AM   #34
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There was sex before religion.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:03 PM   #35
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I saw a little girl at the movie theater with a shirt that read, "I (heart symbol) rockstars."

She was with her mom so it couldn't have been something she was secretly wearing outside the house.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:14 PM   #36
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What's wrong with loving rockstars. When I was 6 i was rocking out to the stones and beatles. I would have worn that shirt.
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Old 06-25-2006, 02:28 AM   #37
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actually there is two ways you can look at the situation...
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Old 06-25-2006, 12:04 PM   #38
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There was sex before religion.

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Old 06-25-2006, 04:20 PM   #39
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This topic inspired me to go on one of my rare research expeditions, and I found out something rather interesting.

The latest studies show that rates of rape may actually be higher in rural areas than in urban areas. At the extreme, rape per capita in Alaska is more than twice the national average. And it can get even worse when you consider that rape counseling and reporting services are much less available in rural areas than it is in urban areas.

So next time you see a girl in a tight short skirt and tank top with high heels in the inner city, consider this: statistically she may actually be safer than the girl described in the first post of this thread.
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:49 PM   #40
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Sorry, I know this post is extremely late, but I haven't been able to find enough time to post a full reply until now.

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Reproduction serves one and only one purpose. To avoid extinction.


The fact is, guys are naturally really really attracted to lots and lots of girls. If we want to get on the subject of moral bounds we can talk marriage. If you're putting yourself out there...i dunno. it's hard to argue.
Well, yes, we could debate that. I wasn't sure if this discussion should really head in a moral direction (where there will be some major disagreement) or stay at a point where most everyone can agree with the original editorial.

True, that guys are naturally really attracted to lots of girls, but that doesn't mean guys should have sex with lots of girls.

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It's natural to want to have sex I mean this has always been there.........so it's not that back in the days people didn't want to screw around and have sex with numerous persons but it was their values that kept them from doing so. The values determined who, where and how. No values and "poof" natural desires run around uncontrolled.
Exactly. And only your instinct or your values can be correct. I would argue our instinct has gone astray and those damn values are correct.

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Bond, you're missing my point completely. I don't know if thats just a reading comprehension issue (I doubt it, you're a smart guy) or you're just trying to find an arguement when there isnt one there.

Using my example again...suppose the bear knew that biting off someone's hand is a terrible thing to do. Let's say the bear gets shot afterwards, assuming the punishment fit the crime. That doesnt change the fact that the person still is left with only one hand, and the only sure way for the whole situation to be avoided would be to not slap on a bunch of honey.

I cant stand people who commit crimes let alone rapists/sexual predators, but this has nothing to do with that.
I see your point. Actually, I saw your point before, but I wasn't sure in which way I should reply to it so I decided to use a sarcastic one-line reply that probably wasn't the best choice. While I understand your point, I still do respectfully disagree with what you are saying.

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There was sex before religion.
Your point? There was a God before sex.
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