Let's talk about LOST *Spoilers*

Dylflon · 09-23-2005, 02:58 PM

Anybody watch the show?

I must say I was a little Disappointed by the season premier.

But let's come together to discuss the mystery of the island and those stranded on it.

Spoilers ahoy!

Swan · 09-23-2005, 03:01 PM

I liked the first episode, it wasn't all, BAM, best episode but it was still pretty good. I'm really interested in seeing why he did it all.

Dylflon · 09-23-2005, 03:04 PM

Who are those people on the boat?

Is Sawyer and the raft crew okay?

What's up with the black smoke stuff?

I was expecting the monster to be like...a robot dinosaur.

But instead we're treated to:

Fox 6 · 09-23-2005, 03:07 PM

Im pretty sure Sawyer is ok. when it showed scenes from next week they should sawyer pulling the other guy out of the water.

Dylflon · 09-23-2005, 03:08 PM

I didn't watch the scenes from next week part.

Is anyone else sad that Boone died?

Dylflon · 09-23-2005, 04:07 PM

Hey, so there's a couple things to be noted about the new episode.

In the tunnel there was graffiti with the number 108 circled. 108 is the sum of the cursed number.

Jack was told not to push the execute button on the computer. Apparently somebody took what Walt whispered and played it backwards and what is heard is "Where's the button... the button's bad"

The guy who dies in the ER flashback has the same last name as Shannon. Could this have been Shannon's husband? Boone did mention that she'd been married. Or it could have been her father who left money to Boone and not Shannon.

The bottle on the thing that Desmond injects himself with at the beginning of the episode reads:

cr-4-8 15 16-23 42
FOR INJECTION
_____ MULTIPLE DOSE

But what is he injecting himself with?

The patient in the flashback that is announced dead dies at 8:15. 8 and 15 are two of the numbers in the sequence of cursed numbers.

Think about what Desmond said in the flashback.

"I'm training for a race around the world"
"I almost became a doctor"

These thing may mean something.

BUT! The most interesting thing he said was "See you in another life".

Desmond sleeps on a bunk and it looks like he was cleaning up someone elses mess. Is someone else down there with him?

Some random thoughts:

The comic book Walt read in the first season had a picture of a polar bear and we saw a polar bear. But, it also had a picture of an island with a force field around it. Could this have some relevance?

There seems to be some affixation on child abduction here. Walt has special powers. What do they need the children for?

Fox 6 · 09-23-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by deejzguy

I'm really interested in seeing why he did it all.

Who is he? you kind of left us lost on that one.

Swan · 09-23-2005, 03:18 PM

The guy who had a gun to Locke's head. He does have a brief history with Jack.

Null · 09-23-2005, 03:54 PM

you are all talking about the season 2 premier right? (cuz i dont know what countries its played at, i thought europe only started season 1 not too long ago)

anywho, as for the season 2 premiere, great episode. answer a question, make a bunch more.

and for the preview of next weeks episode, they didnt show any new footage, that was all this episode or before. there was no new clips in that.

things noticed in the season 2 premiere, (some may be spoilers, i find them more of hidden clues tho)

the 'numbers' are written on the bottle the guy injects at the start. Also, the numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) are written on that painting on the wall in the hatch, with 108 in the sun (sum of all the numbers)

the woman (that jack saves, his future wife), the other guy she killed in that car accident, is shannons father. also that he died on *cough*8:15*cough*am (numbers).

and what Walt mumbles to shannon in the woods when she see's him.... played backwards says "dont press the button, the button is bad"

Dylflon · 09-29-2005, 02:06 AM

Episode 202:

The shark totally had a tattoo on it. As far as I can tell it was the same symbol that's on all the stuff in the bunker.

And holy crap, guys.

Others.

Others.

Vampyr · 09-29-2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

Episode 202:

The shark totally had a tattoo on it. As far as I can tell it was the same symbol that's on all the stuff in the bunker.

And holy crap, guys.

Others.

Others.

The others looked like Zombies.

Neo · 09-29-2005, 12:32 PM

I think Chen mistook more crash survivors for "others." It implies as much on the ABC website.

The logo which keeps appearing on the equipment in the hatch, Desmond's jumpsuit, and the tail of the shark says "Dharma" in the middle. Dharma is the Hindu principle or law that orders the universe. Also concerns individual conduct in conformity with this principle, and the essential function or nature of a thing. Another possible relevant meaning is from Buddhism, where it is one of the basic minute elements from which all things are made. The symbol itself is a variation on the I-Ching, the Chinese book of changes. The number 23 (one of Hurly's numbers) is of particular significance to the I-Ching. The co-creator of the show said we should think of the number 23 in the context of Robert Anton Wilson's philosophy. He was a philosopher who believed that 23 held cosmic significance. He pointed out that there were several coincidences surrounding that number. For example, Shakespeare was born on April 23rd and died on April 23rd, a man and a woman both provide 23 chromosomes, it takes 23 seconds for blood to circulate through the body, and so on. Kate repeated "23?" when Hurly said the number, then Hurly asked "does 23 mean something to you?" And she replied something about "$23,000." The numbers appear on the hatch as well as on the serum bottle Desmond shot up with. The sum of the numbers is 108, which is written on the painting of the sun within the hatch. When Locke entered the numbers into the computer the timer reset itself to 108 minutes. What happens if the timer expires? Oh, and Chinese astrology holds that there are 108 sacred stars.

Notice the candybar that Kate ate was called Apollo? The first Apollo mission to the moon landed on 23.63 degrees East, the 2nd landed on 23.42 degrees West.

Notice the stuffed animal Michael gave to Walt was a polar bear?

One intrepid watcher noticed that if you freeze-frame the black cloud from last season you can clearly see a face. Also the thing that dragged off Locke was a column of black smoke. Could the black cloud be a life form of some kind? Possibly partly mechanical in nature? There was a definite mechanical sound when it tried to drag Locke into the hole.

My own speculation is that Hurly's numbers have a cosmic significance and that the island may act as a focal point or nexus for those numbers. Anyone connected to the island will experience weird coincidences. The producers both said the island may not be an island at all. Perhaps it is a life form itself? The island drew the survivors to it ("the island brought us here") because it needs them for something.

The equipment in the hatch is very old. The computer, data recorders, and exercise bike are from the 70's. Whatever this project is it's been going on for a long time.

Vampyr · 09-29-2005, 04:50 PM

I caught the Apollo thing, and this is what I got out of it:

Apollo was the Greek god of the sun. He drove a chariot around the world, and the wheels of this chariot is the actuall sun that we are seeing. Also, Apollo was the name of those space missions.

Remember when Desmound said he was preparing for a "race around the world"? What if he was racing around the world in a air craft of some kind? I know this leaves a lot of un answered questions, but it's an ok theory. He himself could have written "quarantine" on the inside of the door when he realized what happened to people who went above ground. We are pretty confident more people were there with him, because of the extra bunk beds.

Some support I've thought of for my theory:

1. There was a painting of a sun on one of the walls inside the hatch.

2. In one story of Greek mythology Apollo lets his son (I forget his name) drive his chariot. He could not control it, and veered off course.

Swan · 09-29-2005, 05:36 PM

One of my theories is that Desmond and Rousseau (I know I spelt that wrong) arrived together. Desmond was one of the others that she spoke of, that killed them all. It is happening again with this plane. The different groups of survivors have an ongoing war.

Teuthida · 09-29-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo

One intrepid watcher noticed that if you freeze-frame the black cloud from last season you can clearly see a face. Also the thing that dragged off Locke was a column of black smoke. Could the black cloud be a life form of some kind? Possibly partly mechanical in nature? There was a definite mechanical sound when it tried to drag Locke into the hole.

I took screenshots from that ep.

The cloud went into Jack's ear. I almost forgot all about that.