To those with both a DS and PSP... - Page 3

Null · 03-30-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.

Okay, I understand a bit more of what you're saying. I knew that graphics make the development costs higher and all that sort of stuff, but i thought you were just saying "well the games look nicer so they should cost better" or something stupid like that.

As far as the Value Pack, I realize that it is called a value pack because it offers some value. I just stated that for me, and a lot of other people, a true "value pack" would come with just the system, so that the extra 70 dollars could be put towards a game rather than headphones and Spiderman 2.

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Originally Posted by Null

never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.

Yeah, I realize that and I'm sorry if it confused anyone... I was basing it from my standpoint of not needing these things.

Perfect Stu · 03-30-2005, 08:20 PM

I've now gotten the chance to sample each system, and it just seems as though the DS is a generation behind PSP. The audio and video is just so much better, it's like comparing N64 to Dreamcast or PS2 when it first came out.

Actually, I think first gen PSP titles are looking better than first gen PS2 titles...

GameMaster · 03-30-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

I've now gotten the chance to sample each system, and it just seems as though the DS is a generation behind PSP. The audio and video is just so much better, it's like comparing N64 to Dreamcast or PS2 when it first came out.

Actually, I think first gen PSP titles are looking better than first gen PS2 titles...

Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

Teuthida · 03-30-2005, 08:55 PM

When asked about the next Game Boy at the Game Developer's conference, Reggie's head exploded. Either they're not planning on making one any time soon or the higher-ups aren't telling him anything. I think because of the good initial sales of DS they're blinded by what PSP offers. Though PSP isn't selling nearly as well as DS did...but the time of year must be taken into account too. What I've noticed though is that Nintendo does not handle competition well. They're fine when they're not chanllenged. When they are though, some chemical process sets off in the brain of the great mightly 'tendo to do something...something not so good...something evi...something...um, somethingish.

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danchastu

When asked about the next Game Boy at the Game Developer's conference, Reggie's head exploded. Either they're not planning on making one any time soon or the higher-ups aren't telling him anything. I think because of the good initial sales of DS they're blinded by what PSP offers. Though PSP isn't selling nearly as well as DS did...but the time of year must be taken into account too. What I've noticed though is that Nintendo does not handle competition well. They're fine when they're not chanllenged. When they are though, some chemical process sets off in the brain of the great mightly 'tendo to do something...something not so good...something evi...something...um, somethingish.

This is so true it hurts.

Perfect Stu · 03-30-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

a small side project?

that's PR for admitting it is inferior compared to its competition

the PSP or GBASP can "entice" Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed, couldnt they?

Null · 03-30-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

i have no idea where the rumors of a gameboy got started. i think it started just cuz nintendo said its not a sequal to the gameboy. and suddendly spewed off into this huge thing about there being a new gameboy just around the corner.

i dont believe that for 1 second and i question anyone who actually does. It would be total suicide for nintendo to release the DS, get everyone to buy one just to turn around in the same year and say, And heres the new gameboy! people would say screw that and get a PSP.

i guarentee you will NOT see another nintendo handheld untill at LEAST 2007

GameMaster · 03-30-2005, 11:17 PM

As an eager PSP buyer, I have a question:

Can the PSP read standard video formats like mpeg and avi?

Perfect Stu · 03-31-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

As an eager PSP buyer, I have a question:

Can the PSP read standard video formats like mpeg and avi?

I love the wording...

Null · 03-31-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

As an eager PSP buyer, I have a question:

Can the PSP read standard video formats like mpeg and avi?

heh.

right now for video files it reads mpeg 4's but theres tons of converters out and it doesnt take much time to convert a avi into a mp4. or any other format.

MuGen · 03-31-2005, 11:29 AM

Null if you can direct me to a converter that would be swell..... I've downloaded like 5 converters and they all sukk.

As for PSP sales... to be honest, I think it's going rather well considering it's not near any holidays where kids and teens can get the PSP free from their parents. I saw the Launch party at the Metreon and everyone there seemed to have their own jobs, and the crowd was obviously older. I think it's smart on Sony's part to target the older audience because then they can release a system without thinking about Holidays.

I know PS3 will be around holidays though... it has to.

Null · 03-31-2005, 11:54 AM

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000980024404/

thats all the info i used, it tells you where to download stuff and how to covert different types of things like DVDs and such. everything i've done so far was in that page.

i hear this is a good guide too http://psp.connect.com/tutorial.html

And this( http://www.pspvideo9.com/ ) is the recent converting program i've heard a lot about, im going to try it but havnt yet so i dunno if its any good. it looks nice tho. i'll prolly try it this weekend.

MuGen · 03-31-2005, 12:03 PM

Thanks, the 3GP Converter works wonders.

+rep

KillerGremlin · 03-31-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

Indeed. I'll tell you this: When Nintendo released the GBA2, I'll be in line getting my PSP. I'm tired of this support Nintendo's lame "inovations." If Nintendo goes through with the GBA2, I predict they will lose the majority of their third party support behind the DS. And if that happens, the DS will literally be useless, especially because much of Nintendo's First Party software is repetitive. MARIO 256 NOW WITH TWO WATERPACKS AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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However, Grand Theft Auto on the go.....yummy.