Won't know who President is Nov. 2 - Page 2

Typhoid · 10-22-2004, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

Not to mention that he is an opportunistic flip-flopper.

And Bush is an illiterate monkey. Whats your point?

So since he is running for President he has to be inhuman then? He isnt allowed to change his mind? I dont know one person who hasnt changed their mind before.

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Kerry's voting record is against a lot of the things he is promising or saying in this election

But some of the major things were more than 10 years ago. Times change, people change, Ideals change, and votes change.

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What are you going to believe? A man's promises or his past actions?

You want to talk of past actions to determine who is better for your country?

You want to talk about being hung up on the past, rather than looking into the future?

Do you want a man who cannot remember a lick of a speech. Do you want a bumbling idiot? Do you want someone who constantly messes up his points and speeches?

"The French dont have a word for 'Entrepreneur'."

"This will be a non-volunteer army, Amer-.................excuse me....this will be an all volunteer army."

"In Texas they say 'Fool me once....................sh.....uh...shame on me...fool me...' You see, the thing is, you just cant fool me."

"Rarely is the question asked, Is our children learning."

"THEY MISUNDERESTIMATED ME."

"THEY WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING SOCIAL SECURITY LIKE IT'S SOME KIND OF FEDERAL PROGRAM."

" I do not believe we've put a guilty... I mean innocent person to death in the state pf texas."

BUSH: "FIRST OF ALL, CINCO DE MAYO IS NOT THE INDEPENDENCE DAY. THAT'S DIECISEIS DE SEPTIEMBRE, AND ..."
MATTHEWS: "WHAT'S THAT IN ENGLISH?" BUSH: "FIFTEENTH OF SEPTEMBER." (DIECISEIS DE SEPTIEMBRE = SEPT. 16)

"THE FACT THAT HE RELIES ON FACTS...SAYS THINGS THAT ARE NOT FACTUAL...ARE GOING TO UNDERMINE HIS CAMPAIGN."

"I THINK WE AGREE, THE PAST IS OVER."

"IT'S CLEARLY A BUDGET. IT'S GOT A LOT OF NUMBERS IN IT."

GOV. BUSH: " I TALKED TO MY LITTLE BROTHER, JEB...I HAVEN'T TOLD THIS TO MANY PEOPLE. BUT HE'S THE GOVERNOR OF...I SHOULDN'T CALL HIM MY LITTLE BROTHER...MY BROTHER, JEB, THE GREAT GOVERNOR OF TEXAS."
JIM LEHRER: "FLORIDA."
GOV. BUSH: "FLORIDA. THE STATE OF THE FLORIDA."

"IT'S EVOLUTIONARY, GOING FROM GOVERNOR TO PRESIDENT, AND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP, TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF ON THE BALLOT, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO DO SO NEXT FALL, I HOPE."

"I UNDERSTAND SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH. I WAS ONE."

"THE SENATOR HAS GOT TO UNDERSTAND IF HE'S GOING TO HAVE...HE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. HE CAN'T TAKE THE HIGH HORSE AND THEN CLAIM THE LOW ROAD."

"WE OUGHT TO MAKE THE PIE HIGHER."

"I THINK WE NEED NOT ONLY TO ELIMINATE THE TOLLBOOTH TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, I THINK WE SHOULD KNOCK DOWN THE TOLLBOOTH."

"THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB IS NOT TO BE GOVERNOR, OR FIRST LADY IN MY CASE."

"WILL THE HIGHWAYS ON THE INTERNET BECOME MORE FEW?"

"I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS FOR YOU TO PUT FOOD ON YOUR FAMILY."

"ANYWAY, I'M SO THANKFUL, AND SO GRACIOUS - I'M GRACIOUS THAT MY BROTHER JEB IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEMISPHERE AS WELL."

"FOR EVERY FATAL SHOOTING, THERE WERE ROUGHLY THREE NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS. AND, FOLKS, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IN AMERICA. IT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."

Professor S · 10-22-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Sure, he voted against them, but he didnt vote against them for this war did he?

Yes, he did. $87 Billion in funding FOR THIS WAR he voted against, and now he's blaming Bush for them not being equipped. Its called hypocrisy, and if Kerry is President you better get used to it.

And Typhoid, are you really comparing verbal miscues to a planned voting record and intentional policies that point to Kerry being against everything he says he now stands for? What planet are you from?

Typhoid · 10-22-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

What planet are you from?

The fine planet of Australia.

Blackmane · 10-22-2004, 01:39 PM

So Typhoid, your saying that if a person can speak clearly and effectively, even if what he is saying contradicts things that he has wither said before or has done (voting record), then that is better than someone who has firm beliefs but has speech impediments?

So, I guess you want a good public speaker, because that is all that is important, right? Tell us what we want to hear, right? I guess it is good that Kerry brought in a former trial lawyer as his running mate, just to give him some more points in speech.

But, its ok, because really it doesn't matter what Kerry says or does, because so many of the liberal minds on this forum are too filled with contempt at Bush that they will vote for Kerry no matter what.

Typhoid · 10-22-2004, 01:44 PM

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But, its ok, because really it doesn't matter what Kerry says or does, because so many of the liberal minds on this forum are too filled with contempt at Bush that they will vote for Kerry no matter what.

And you think you Republicans are so much higher than Liberals/Democrats? You think your on a different pedestal just because we like Kerry? You think your better people because we dont like George Bush and you do?

Again, i will chage words to make a complete, and true, sentance. Its magic i say.

Let Kerry=Bush
Let Liberal=Republican
Let Bush=Kerry

and voila.

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

But, its ok, because really it doesn't matter what Bush says or does, because so many of the Republican minds on this forum are too filled with contempt at Kerry that they will vote for Bush no matter what.

Professor S · 10-22-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Let Kerry=Bush
Let Liberal=Republican
Let Bush=Kerry

and voila.

"But, its ok, because really it doesn't matter what Bush says or does, because so many of the Republican minds on this forum are too filled with contempt at Kerry that they will vote for Bush no matter what."

Except for the fact that its completely inaccurate. Most republicans don't HATE Kerry. They think he'll be a completely different President than he claims now and they don't trust him as far as they can throw him, but hate is too strong of a word. Frustrated is more accurate.

Meanwhile I'm not surprised some liberal nut hasn't tried to assassinate Bush.

And yes, I know that you could use your little simplistic formula on my post, but it still wouldn't make it any more accurate even if it makes you feel smarter.

BreakABone · 10-22-2004, 03:06 PM

Now, I have yet to quite gasp the meaning of what the hell a liberal or conservative is? I mean I've pretty much seen it's use, but why do they seem to have such negative connations these days?

As for Kerry's voting record, I'm sure it should be taken into account when you look at the two, but Bush has no voting record so I don't think it's entirely fair. On the other hand, Bush has been President for four years and he is promising things now that he could of done in the four years he was President prior. I don't know why anyone would be shocked at hollow promises made by candidates. I mean it sounds good in a speech, but a lot of what either is saying isn't really possible with how they are saying it. Both sides eat it up anyhow.

I think they both have their shares of problems, like it's been mentioned in this thread, they are human. And what is so wrong with having a human in the White House?

Some folks are against a President who can't make up his mind. Others are against a President who will make up his mind, and no matter how bone-headed a decision he makes will spear right through it.

Some want a President who can articulate himself and doesn't make a parody of their languages. Others don't care as long as he gets his points across.. eventually.

Blackmane · 10-24-2004, 03:48 AM

I don't hate Kerry, and that should be clear from my posts. I think I give sound reasons why I support Bush in his desisions and why I think Kerry would make a bad president. I don't go around and say things about Kerry that many of you do with Bush (ie. suggesting things like Bush=Hitler=Satan; Bush is an idiot). Those are hateful things.

And I don't believe I am higher than anyone else with different views, I just believe I am different and, hopefully, informed in things they might not be.

Now, I know I can't speak for all Republicans, but seriously. There is so much negativity towards Bush, it isn't even funny. It's this emotional explosion that is pointed his way, and it is horriblie.

Typhoid · 10-24-2004, 03:53 AM

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(ie. suggesting things like Bush=Hitler=Satan; Bush is an idiot).

Who said he was on the same level as Satan or Hitler? Who openly claimed him to be an idiot. I dont think anyone did.

Blackmane · 10-24-2004, 03:58 AM

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Who said he was on the same level as Satan or Hitler? Who openly claimed him to be an idiot. I dont think anyone did.

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(ie. suggesting things like Bush=Hitler=Satan; Bush is an idiot).

I never said directly, but if someone is dumb enough not to pick up on it, then they don't deserve to own a computer. J/k, but come on.

Pictures of Bush as Hitler, endless comments and satires on his speech impediments, so many messed up phrases and "Bushisms", the list goes on.