Virtua Fighter 4.1 Planned For Xbox - Page 2

Professor S · 03-01-2002, 09:42 PM

origianally posted by Joeiss
"Perfect Stu shoots down another rumour and restores faith in the gold old PS2. Good job Stu! "

Gee, I don't see one mention of congratulation to Sega. You might be able to fool yourself, but you can't fool me.

Joeiss · 03-01-2002, 09:51 PM

Okay. You know what? Do you want a full explanation for that post? Fine. Here it is :

" Perfect Stu shoots down another rumour and restores faith in the gold old PS2. Good job Stu! "

This was originally posted by me, Joeiss. I said "Perfect Stu shoots down another rumour". This means that Perfect Stu ended the talks of a rumoured game that if it were true, a company would be lying to another (For you Stangler, since you will probably view this is a different way, it means that if this RUMOUR was true, Sega would not be following a contract in which Sega agreed that VF 4 would be exclusive to PS2).

Follow so far?

"...and restores faith in the gold old PS2." This was also posted by me, Joeiss. This means that if the rumour was true, then people would think that XBox is just a more powerful machine than PS2, with the same games as PS2. I say this because if the rumour were true, then what would stop other companies from making new editions of games on XBox? If this happened, then potential buyers of PS2 and PS2 products might buy an XBox. I would rather see a persin buy a PS2 because it is my favourite system. I do not think that XBox is bad, but I enjoy PS2 better.

Follow so far?

"... Good job Stu!" Perfect Stu is the man when it comes to PS2. I am congratulating him on pointing out that this is only a rumour, and that there is no truth behind it.

Happy now, Strangler?

Professor S · 03-01-2002, 10:03 PM

originally posted by Joeiss
"I say this because if the rumour were true, then what would stop other companies from making new editions of games on XBox? If this happened, then potential buyers of PS2 and PS2 products might buy an XBox. I would rather see a persin buy a PS2 because it is my favourite system. I do not think that XBox is bad, but I enjoy PS2 better."

This is the flaw in your thinking. You want developers to NOT make games for the XBox. This is out of the fear that if that happens people will actually get a XBox because if it has the same games, they will be superior because they are on a superior system.

I don't care if every game that comes out is available on every console. It wouldn't affect my thinking at all when it comes to the XBox. I won't love MS more because they forced another company to make their games XBox exclusives. Halo can go on every next gen console for all I care. As long as I have it, its all good.

Perfect Stu · 03-01-2002, 10:18 PM

why do you keep starting arguements Strangler? just let it be, for crying out loud!

Professor S · 03-01-2002, 10:24 PM

I don't start fights, I point out things that are irrational, don't make sense or are blatantly biased in thinking. After I do that, others start the fights.

Also, I find it humorous that so many non-Xbox fans spend so much of their time in this forum finding delight in every little ounce of negative XBox news. So I play with them for my amusement.

And what was the deal with the whole "ignoring" thing? I forget.

Joeiss · 03-02-2002, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
This is the flaw in your thinking. You want developers to NOT make games for the XBox. This is out of the fear that if that happens people will actually get a XBox because if it has the same games, they will be superior because they are on a superior system.

Ummm... No. I am not against developers making games for XBox. I am against companies going against their agreements with companies, in this case it was just a rumour... So I do not even know why we are still argueing.

And Strangler, I happen to like XBox very much. I do not know if you were here when I posted a thread about XBox being amazing (it was back when the site was a .com).

Professor S · 03-02-2002, 10:05 AM

well, thats why I never called you a fanboy. I have conversed with you enough to know that you aren't one. But that post did look a little biased/fanboyish so I pointed it out.

The truth is that A LOT of non-XBox fans spend a good amount of their time in this forum. Why? I can't imagine. Honestly the only reason why this forum is as big as it is because of PS2 and Gameboy fans coming in to talk trash, argue and post yellow journalism (example: All the members who play reporter but ONLY post XBox news when it is either bad news or a negative review.) So when that happens, I don't let it slide. I call them out on it. I have developed a very low tolerance for Bullsh*t.

So, I apologize if I was a little defensive and lit into you more than you deserved, but honestly I have become that way for a reason.

So, let us bury the hatchet and share a toast:

To the joys of gaming

Slainte!

Joeiss · 03-02-2002, 10:16 AM

Thanks for the beer. But I have been taught to drink to alcohol until noon. So I'll take a raincheck on that.

Professor S · 03-02-2002, 10:20 AM

Well, you're definitely not a college student then.

mmmm...

Nothing like Kegs and Eggs for breakfast.

Xantar · 03-02-2002, 01:51 PM

Erm, well, I'm late to the hot topic again, but I'm going to throw in my 200 Vietnamese currency anyway.

I'm not an XBox or Microsoft fan by any stretch (heck, I use a Mac. I want to avoid using Microsoft products as much as possible, but Mac OS is also better

). However, I'm siding with The Strangler.

We need people like him around here (this also applies to oOPuPPeTOo, Bond, BigJustinW and whoever else I'm missing). People here do show a selective bias in the news they post. The thing is it's very hard to tell that it's going on. As a GameCube fan, I certainly didn't see it happening. It wasn't until The Strangler pointed it out that I realized he's right. Some of us do actually come in here just to read about XBox's failures. Did you notice how much traffic picked up around the Japanese launch?

You may think we're not that biased, but try visiting a place like XBoxAddict's GameCube vs. XBox debate forum. That particular forum is actually probably the most intelligent and least biased of XBA's forums, but the yellow journalism is still there. You won't find a topic about the Triforce arcade board or even a Shigeru Miyamoto interview in there. What you will see is topics about delayed games and Ken Lobb leaving Nintendo of America. I would bet that the XBox fans there don't realize that they're doing, but it's happening nonetheless.

So to all you people who are getting so worked up over The Strangler and people like him, take a long hard look at yourself first. GameTavern prides itself on being one of the most unbiased videogame forums on the internet, and the hard truth is that if we want to keep that up, we're going to need people whose opinions fundamentally differ. Far be it for me to second guess The Strangler, but I honestly don't think he has anything to apologize for.

Professor S · 03-02-2002, 02:52 PM

Thank you Xantar, well said.

azazela31 · 03-02-2002, 03:46 PM

I agree with nearly every word Strangler said.

As for Perfect Stu his attempts to make the PS2 look better than X-Box can be explained in a single word.

INSECURITY

Joeiss · 03-02-2002, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by azazela31
I agree with nearly every word Strangler said.

As for Perfect Stu his attempts to make the PS2 look better than X-Box can be explained in a single word.

INSECURITY

Why do you have beef with Perfect Stu? Is it because you are insecure about yourself?

azazela31 · 03-03-2002, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeiss

Why do you have beef with Perfect Stu? Is it because you are insecure about yourself?

Well I don't want to get in a fight with you but if you haven't noticed me and Stu really don't like each other.

I don't like the way he talks, I don't like his opinions, I don't like his debates, and mostly he's debates against Strangler in this post are full of ****.

Perfect Stu · 03-03-2002, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by azazela31
and mostly he's debates against Strangler in this post are full of ****.

*bangs head against table*

WHAT IN GOD'S NAME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

read my first post in this topic....I said I would tell you guys if the game was any good this month....with a "

"

then, in the second post, I found a response from Sega of America, so I posted it here. Sure, it may have been negative, but it's the TRUTH, so I posted it here. and I said "just something to think about"...not "TAKE THAT XBOX BOYS!!!!"

And finally, I said that the Strangler shouldn't start arguements...because he did....IMO....

WHERE ARE MY "DEBATE" posts? And how in the world are they full of ****?

Please reply, because you're really confusing me...