Sarin, Mustard Gas Found in Iraq

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

It blows my mind that we're looking to Iran before Syria, too. But then again, Iran is considered a much greater power than Syria, so maybe the philosophy is that by going after Iran it will get other countries in line by taking out the two biggest powers in the Middel East. But considering the fanatical nature of the resistance, I have my doubts.

If we're going to be taking out the biggest powers in the mid east (and actually attempting to put a dent in "terrorism") we should be going after the Saudis.

[Seth]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

If we're going to be taking out the biggest powers in the mid east (and actually attempting to put a dent in "terrorism") we should be going after the Saudis.

lol

agreed.

Not much of a chance though.

[Typhoid]

Our gas is cheaper compared to in The US, because we get ours from Albetra, so it travels less than to there. But last week here gas was about 99 cents. They had to replace all the Petro-Can signs to accomodate the new number that might have to be added...


And i dont think Bush would really attack any Other country withut necessary provocation. Granted he did cheat a little with Iraq ( i think)....might have been Afghanastan(sp?), but he said he would give Saddam and his sons 3 days to get out of said country, but only gave them two....a little unfair. And dont reem me for saying its unfair, because it kind of was.

Its like your teacher say : "have this Term paper in by 2 weeks" but then about 4 days later says " Hand in your term paper...and no late assignments"....

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Our gas is cheaper compared to in The US, because we get ours from Albetra, so it travels less than to there. But last week here gas was about 99 cents. They had to replace all the Petro-Can signs to accomodate the new number that might have to be added...


And i dont think Bush would really attack any Other country withut necessary provocation. Granted he did cheat a little with Iraq ( i think)....might have been Afghanastan(sp?), but he said he would give Saddam and his sons 3 days to get out of said country, but only gave them two....a little unfair. And dont reem me for saying its unfair, because it kind of was.

Its like your teacher say : "have this Term paper in by 2 weeks" but then about 4 days later says " Hand in your term paper...and no late assignments"....

Nooo... he gave him a blockbuster Video 3 days. The day you rent on counts as a full day

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Nooo... he gave him a blockbuster Video 3 days. The day you rent on counts as a full day

HAHA...nice analogy.....i hate that, because i always think its a Roger's 3 days... + reps

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

If we're going to be taking out the biggest powers in the mid east (and actually attempting to put a dent in "terrorism") we should be going after the Saudis.

Stonecutter, there is a difference between a country having terrorists and a country supporting them. Saudi Arabia is probably the most strict Middle Eastern when it comes to terrorism to the point that the royal family have prices on their heads. They've also had terrorist attacks perpetrated on them by Al Queida.

Yes, Osama Bin Laden comes from a family from Saudi Arabia... but his family has been completely disassociated from him since 1988 and has even lent assistance in helping the effort to catch him.

Yes, many terrorists from 9/11 are/were from Saudi Arabia, but they were not sponsored, trained or assisted by the Saudi Arabian government. You can't hold an entire nation responsible for the actions of a few. In fact Saudi Arabia is one of the few nations in the Middle East that has attempted to close their borders to prevent fanatics from crossing over into Iraq, unlike Iran and Syria.

Meanwhile it has been proven that Iraq (under Saddam) and Iran have actively sponsored terrorism and now that it's pretty evident that Syria has been a dumping ground for Saddam for years. Knowing this, Saudi Arabia is the least of my worries when it comes to governments sponsoring terrorism.

I'm not saying that the Saudi Arabian government is a bed of roses because they're suspect in many areas, but when it comes to nations/governments that support terrorism they are WAY down my list. And speaking of this list...

5) Pakistan - They look the other way much too often
4) Jordan - Same as Pakistan but worse
3) Iran - Active terror supporters and the government cow-tows to fanatical Muslims
2) North Korea - They have let the world that they don't care what anyone thinks and they have access to Nuclear materials and a severe monetary issues. Do the math.
1) Syria - Its not been made pretty clear that a good portion of the 10,000 pounds (or was it tons? I forget) of chemical and biological weapons found by the UN in Iraq in 1998 are located in Syria. They need to be found and destroyed NOW.

[The Duggler]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Only $1??? And isn't canadian money worth less than american money??? You guys get gas freaking DIRT cheap compared to here. Right now gas prices stay over $2 here... we feel like it's getting REAL cheap again when it drops to somthing like $1.60.

But I think California is also the worst in the Unites states, so eh, maybe it's just us.

Do you know what a Liter is? The Metric System?

Ahh, americans....

A liter equals 0.26 US gallons. So 99.9c/liter = 3.84$CAN/US gallon. So it's pretty expensive.

Want me to convert the currency too?

[GameMaster]

What happens to someone that is exposed to these biological chemicals?

[Bond]

Sarin

Sarin inhibits the function of an enzyme (cholinesterase) that is necessary for the proper function of a neurotransmitter (acetylcholine). Neurotransmitters act to relay important messages (nervous impulses) in the nervous system and control the glands and muscles of the body. Cholinesterase in effect "turns off" acetylcholine. When a person is exposed to sarin, cholinesterase is no longer able to turn off acetylcholine, the effect of which is that nervous impulses keep being transmitted. When this happens, the glands and muscles of the body are constantly being stimulated. The victim of sarin will lose control over his bodily functions. Ultimately, the victim will fall into a coma and suffocate.

Mustard Gas

Long-term effects include laryngeal, pharyngeal and lung cancers, corneal burns causing blindness, severe skin burns predisposing to skin cancer, neurological and psychiatric disorders, infertility and birth defects.

Why they must be found before they fall into the hands of terrorists.