lets go again with the matrix - Page 2

GameMaster · 04-10-2004, 02:31 AM

In the love scene in Reloaded, were Keanu and Carrie really doing it for real?

Crash · 04-10-2004, 03:03 AM

no, unfortunately for the guys, there is also a plug THERE .... if you get my drift.

GameMaster · 04-10-2004, 03:04 AM

How were they able to climax then?

Crash · 04-10-2004, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

On the contrary, there is very subtle metaphor and hints to different ideas presented by the movie hidden throughout the films. It is chalk full of allusions and stuff...

yeah, like the part where seraph goes to the club, and the dudes are all "I dont believe it, it's Wingless". and later merovingian calls seraph "my little judas" so it's saying Seraph was once called wingless and worked for merovingian, but when will we know (as paul harvey would say) the rest of the story?

GameMaster · 04-12-2004, 10:20 PM

Ok, I have another question...

If you take note in Reloaded, when Agent Smith confronts Neo in the park area where he was consulting with the Oracle, you'll notice that his sunglasses are little different from the ones he wore in the original Matrix, they're more angular edged. But this is the 'unplugged' Smith. What I'm having trouble determining is if all the Agent Smith copies also wear the new sunglasses or are they wearing the classic style. I'm freeze framing but it's hard to get a clear picture of any Smith copies.

Well, I just took a look at Revolutions and it appears his glasses are the same as they are in Reloaded so I guess they're just the 'Unplugged' style. I wonder if they'll sell them on the site soon or just stay with the classic style?

TheGame · 04-13-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

yeah, like the part where seraph goes to the club, and the dudes are all "I dont believe it, it's Wingless". and later merovingian calls seraph "my little judas" so it's saying Seraph was once called wingless and worked for merovingian, but when will we know (as paul harvey would say) the rest of the story?

lol... I read some Matrix website and they said Seraph is the name of a Golden Angel (or somthing like that). That would explain why he was Gold when Neo fist saw him, and why they called him wingless (angel without wings).

Gamemaster

Everybody changed there glasses from the first matrix except Morpheus. They had more money this time around

My take on the Trilogy

I think that the Matrix reloaded and revolutions was very good to the hardcore fan, but very bad for the casual fans of the first movie. Telling the story in multiple mediums was like playing with fire, and they got burned. There are very few Matrix fans who went through the trouble of beating the game and watching the animatrix who weren't on the edge of there seat when watching revolutions.

The complaints that Matrix gets from casual fans are obsurd... saying things like they didn't spend enough time in the matrix. Why would they keep fighting a war in a video game when the real problems are in the real world?

I think the downfall of the movie to the hardcore fan was one of two things:
1) It simply didn't end how they imagined it would or wanted it to.
2) The previews gave away the end of the movie

IMO, revolutions is the best movie of the three on first watch, and the flat out most entertaining from start to finish. I love the final Neo vs Smith battle, people called it too much like DBZ, but I think it's one of the best one on one movie fights ever shown... better than I ever would have expected (one on one at least... probably could have been better 5 million on one

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jeepnut · 04-13-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

(angel without wings).

Artist: Zao
Song: Angel Without Wings

Hold her in your fight hand
And guide her safely home
Brush away all the thorns
And all the stones

You're my angel without wings
You're my angel without wings
You're my angel
My angel, my angel

Hold her in your fight hand
And guide her safely home
Brush away all the thorns
And all the stones

When I was crying you never left my side
When I was dying you never left my side
You're always, always there for me

You're my angel without wings
You're my angel without wings
You were always there for me
You were always without wings
You're my angel without wings
You're my angel without wings
You're my angel
My angel, my angel

Look at that. I pulled a Germanator.

Professor S · 04-13-2004, 03:24 PM

Revolutions and Reloaded are NOT GOOD MOVIES. The symbolism is heavy handed, the acting is atrocious (people started laughing during the horrifically prolonged death scene) and the series is the perfect example of why some direct NEED a studio system to keep themselves from masturbating on screen.

With that said, the huge battle sequence was pretty amazing and with the exception of Agent Smith is the only reason to watch that film.

TheGame · 04-13-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Revolutions and Reloaded are NOT GOOD MOVIES. The symbolism is heavy handed, the acting is atrocious (people started laughing during the horrifically prolonged death scene) and the series is the perfect example of why some direct NEED a studio system to keep themselves from masturbating on screen.

What theater did you go to? The whole place got silent when that happend, and I didn't see any humor in it. (I assume you are talking about Trinity's death)

I think her death in reloaded was much worse.

I think you should look at the second disk of the dvd version of revolutions... you seem to be in to film, you should watch it.

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With that said, the huge battle sequence was pretty amazing and with the exception of Agent Smith is the only reason to watch that film.

Which battle sequence? I think the final battle between Neo and Smith was the best one on one fight of the trilogy, and the war on Zion was the most entertaining 40 minute block of the series.

(A matrix fan sparking a conversation with a person who hates the film... should be interesting)

Dark Samurai · 04-13-2004, 07:37 PM

Man i hated the final fight scene, I know that people said that it was good, but for me it was dissapointing. "Like DBZ my ass", thats what I said to my friend in Puerto Rico, when I finally saw the movie. The Zion Siege scene rocked.

jeepnut · 04-13-2004, 07:53 PM

I haven't seen the third one yet. It is the fact that I thought that the second one was atrocious that has kept me from seeing the third one.

Typhoid · 04-13-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut

I haven't seen the third one yet. It is the fact that I thought that the second one was atrocious that has kept me from seeing the third one.

I agree, i havnt seen the third one either and the main reason was the second.....They got seemingly worse and more......well.....more worse. They didnt really follow the same guideline as the origional. And i would like to say, that thanks to the horribleness of the last two(apparently) im not going to classify the origional Matrix as even being in the series as the......"Other two"......they can do their own thing...i dont really care, as long as they leave the first one alone from now on..

Professor S · 04-14-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

What theater did you go to? The whole place got silent when that happend, and I didn't see any humor in it. (I assume you are talking about Trinity's death)

I think her death in reloaded was much worse.

I went to a Regal in King of Prussia. Someone actually yelled "just die already!" It was painful to watch, but not in the sense that I actually cared about the characters.

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I think you should look at the second disk of the dvd version of revolutions... you seem to be in to film, you should watch it.

I will. Revolutions was a lot better than Reloaded and I'll probably buy it for just the 40 minute battle sequence.

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Which battle sequence? I think the final battle between Neo and Smith was the best one on one fight of the trilogy, and the war on Zion was the most entertaining 40 minute block of the series.

The Zion battle sequence. It was truly amazing. The Smith/Neo fight was way too Dragon Ball Z, as someone said, for me. I much preferred the big fight in the first movie and even the Neo vs Army of Smith from the second over the third.

TheGame · 04-14-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

I will. Revolutions was a lot better than Reloaded and I'll probably buy it for just the 40 minute battle sequence.

Cool, be sure to post about it when you see it... even I was shocked at how much time and energy they put into making every detail. I'm pretty sure the time and $$$ it took to make revolutions at least doubles the other two, even with less in-matrix sequences.