Suicide

[DeathsHand]

What I wanna know is what is so important about these little teenage relationships that usually never add up to anything that would make it so one of the people would want to kill themselves when one of them ends...

And I dunno about suicide...

I don't have the best life in the world... I'm way behind in school and I have annoying relatives that ruin various family get-togethers by mentioning school every time (and that's all it takes for me to get depressed about it... we start talking about school I'm depresed)...

I have... 1 friend... and we usually only do things on weekends... and not every weekend or nutin...

So I pretty much sit up in my room by myself all day doing the same damn thing everyday and it's been going on for like 4 years now... although it was kind of fun for the first... half a year...

Sooooo basically almost all day I sit around wishing school would f*** off, wishing I had more friends, and wishing I had more to do...

My mom is usually in a bad mood or sleeping...

and my brother's just here to be annoying and leech off the family... (24 living at home with no job... immature... comes home smelling like crap all the time)... And calling me a loser and stuff like that... Yeah, look who's talking...

And I see the world differently than most people... At least I think I do... I just don't really talk about it much...

Anyways enough about me...

Basically y'know people say ooohhhh it's selfish ohhh this and that...

Or you could say... if you're so damn miserable that you'd wanna kill yourself... wouldn't it, in a way, be selfish of the OTHER people for wanting you to live through it? You want to kill yourself because you're miserable... and the other person doesn't want you to kill yourself because you make them happy or they like being around you or whatever else that makes them care about you... When it's your call... your life... if I was that damn miserable, I wouldn't care about what other people would feel when I was gone... I'm the one stuck in this world of misery, you'll eventually get over it... or at least mostly...

"there are people who love you... "

And therefore they wouldn't want you being so miserable...

And I know you can get "help"... but I even tried getting "Help" for my problems before because my parents forced me to, and it didn't work... So now I look at it as "Those people taking my parents money"... Which I don't like cuz I hear my parents talk about having to budget stuff and this and that... And now I don't feel like getting help anyways (and my problems aren't even as drastic as people who can't really think straight)... Drugs or Therapy... It's just shaping you into something you're not... are you not good enough for the world the way you are that you need to take drugs to fit in and all that?... Sad... I thought it was a GOOD thing to be yourself... oh but when yourself happens to be sad and miserable, that's all of a sudden not good... you need help... here, talk to this person, he will make you all better... anyways, that's a whole other issue... If I were in a situation like that, and I saw it like that, people saying I need "help" and stuff would just make me worse... That means, if I ever get really REALLY depressed... don't ever tell me I need "help"

But I'm talking about people with problems much deeper than having their petty lil' relationship end...

But this is one of those issues where a majority of the people say one thing... but I turn it around on them...

People: Don't be so selfish, think of the people who will miss you...

Me: How about you think of the person who's so depressed it's gotten to a point where he no longer wants to live?

People: There are people out there who love you...

Me: Yeah well that person you love is sitting there suffering... Try harder to help him because he obviously can't help themselves...

and I know I said "Help" is changing them to be something they're not blah blah well help from actual friends and family and people who are in your daily lives and have been in your daily lives is different from some stranger therapist guy...

But meh I dunno... I'd never kill myself so I don't know 100% how they feel... and I've never known anyone who tried to kill themself so I don't know how the people feel when they're effected by that...

Aaaaanyways...

*wonders who is even going to take the time to read this*... *realizes probably nobody will*... *shrugs* *hits "Submit Reply"*



Edit: Stu, you'll have to excuse Chris... He's the idiot here...

And it seems the replies to this message have like doubled since I started typing this up... I guess I should have typed and thought faster...

[nWoCHRISnWo]

If I said I was joking, THEN I would be kidding.

[Jin]

Suicide is a long term solution for a short term problem. Life can be difficult periodically and for some the pain is continuous. I can understand why someone would just want to get it all over with, but suicide isn't the answer. Suicide affects the people closest to you more than you'd think. I mean, if my sister commited suicide it would hurt me so much that I would never be able to recover. Imagine how you would feel when you just found out someone close to you decided to run away from their problems by taking taking their life. That's may be why I've never gone through with it, because I know it would devestate my family. Even if you argue and have problems sometimes with your family, they do care about you whether you are aware of it or not.

[GameMaster]

Has an animal ever been convicted of committing suicide?

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
If I said I was joking, THEN I would be kidding.

you realize you just entered an intelligent conversation...in other words, you don't belong here....go post about meaningless things like wrestling...

and to get back on topic, I was literally inches away from killing myself once...I was about to slit my own throat because the emotional pain I was going through was TOO MUCH. my parents saved my life that day...my dad took the knife away from me, and took me to the hospital...

since then, I've met some people on the internet who I absolutely love as friends (terese, deathshand) and I am feeling better and better every day. I hope that one day the pain goes away completely...

and about the whole "selfish" thing...that's bull****...if I knew someone who was in unbarable emotional pain, and ended their life, I would obviously be sad, but I'd probably realize that they're in a better place...and that the pain is no longer hurting them...

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
Has an animal ever been convicted of committing suicide?

hmm well there is some proof that other animals commit suicide, but the fact is with no legal system they can't...

Come to think of it.. no one is ever convicted for commiting suicide.. you can't charge a dead person

[GameMaster]

Why not?

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by BreakABone

Come to think of it.. no one is ever convicted for commiting suicide.. you can't charge a dead person

What about attempted suicide, where they try a method that's not quite as direct as shooting themselves in the head or something... and they survive?

I dunno if there's any kinds of stupid laws and they punish people for trying to kill themselves or anything...

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by DeathsHand


What about attempted suicide, where they try a method that's not quite as direct as shooting themselves in the head or something... and they survive?

I dunno if there's any kinds of stupid laws and they punish people for trying to kill themselves or anything...

Hmm attempted suicide is different than what I'm talking about.. I'm talking about really commiting the crime... But yeah people are convicted for attempted suicide.. I don't know what tha does for/against the person since they have no will to live to begin with

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by BreakABone

But yeah people are convicted for attempted suicide..

That's so sad it's not even funny...

Does the government have to get involved with everything nowadays...

[Andromida_]

G just tell everyone Shooter!!!!!!
OK EVERYONE! SHOOTER BROKE UP WITH ME!!!!
G now the world knows, how bout I call the news company and have them broadcast it!
Would that make you happy?!?

AND ON ONE LAST NOTE!!!
I've only said ONE time, ONLY ONCE that I was going to get hit by a car only because Shooter had me SO upset. and NOW he continues to do it just to get that reaction.
G if the world didn't know it, I would think he would actually want that to happen.

OMG Shooter you are such hypocrite. When I broke up with you were acting the same exact way, and I DIDN'T SAY A WORD to the forums!!!
But now that it's out SHOOTER LIES PEOPLE!!!

[Mechadragon]

I think I we better just stay out of this.........

As long as you can change a single aspect of you life then suicide should not be an option. Run away from home and start a new life if you have to but don't destroy any possible means of living.

Locked in a prison cell with no chance of ever getting out. That may be a cause to think of suicide. You may then meet someone while in prison who you can talk to and thus have some variety.

Continuly doing the same thing and getting depressed is no reason to kill yourself. Try something new. Try to meet new people. Travel.

Not many people are so trapped that they can't do a single thing that will release them from their depression, at least for an instant. If there's anything in the world that can cause you to smile then ending your life is no possible option.

*Expressing my opinions on the issue of suicide itself.

[GameMaster]

What happened to being Shooter's Princess?

[Ginkasa]

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
People who commit suicide are usually idiots.

Actually, a lot of the people who commit suicide are failry intelligent beings. Their lives just suck so much at one given moment thet they become temporarily (most times) mentally ill and can't think straight. Depression. I'm not talking about the one day depression that comes after just a bad day or anything, I'm talking about serious not doing anything at all except thinking about your life sucks and you wish the apin would all stop depression.

Both my parents have gone through it. My dad seriously threatened to kill himself. He's not an idiot. He was just having problems then.

You have to understand that when people kill themselves, or even just think of suicide, they're not like they normally are. You might not be able to grasp it until you see it for yourself but until you have someone close to you kill themselves or come close to it, I bet you won't think they're idiots.