I saw the matrix-spoilers

[Morpheus1]

Originally Posted by Crash

lets take a look at themes in the movies... running through all three movies are choice, but mostly in the first one, the second movie is about purpose, and the third movie is about ________? also i did the fact that i dont understand the name of the movie until i watch the movie, who said this, revolutions not as in a revolt (like revolutionary war) but in revolving cycle...

Matrix= Cause and effect
Matrix Reloaded= Conflict of cause and effect vs choice
Matrix Revolutions= Choice

The first movie could have been interpreted as choice before we saw the second two movies, but Reloaded reveals that they never had a choice and they were just following the Machine's and Program's orders.

[Crash]

what was obvious to me was that neo didn't love trinity nearly as much as trinity loved neo... whats up with that? killing trinity was the stupidest this that could have happened in the movie. well not as stupid as killing neo with no explanation. but how clear is it that he actually dies? not real clear.

[Morpheus1]

Originally Posted by Crash

what was obvious to me was that neo didn't love trinity nearly as much as trinity loved neo... whats up with that? killing trinity was the stupidest this that could have happened in the movie. well not as stupid as killing neo with no explanation. but how clear is it that he actually dies? not real clear.

The Oracle says that they may see Neo again, one day. The Year is around 2699 in the movie (if the cycle of Zion lasted 100 years each). The technology could be there. They should not revive him because he doesn't have much to live for any more. Trinity and Neo's love is completly even. Remember the decision he made at the end of Reloaded? He picked saving Trinity over saving the human race. In other words, he picked to kill everybody inside and outside of the matrix just to save his girl who is going to die either way within the next 24 hours. You talk about being blinded by love, sheesh.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

i can honestly say i am a real fan of this series, or rather i was, until i saw this movie.... i disagree with the people who say that the second is the worst, i think that this one surpasses it's flaws by far. NOT ONLY did it leave a million questions unanswered, but it also poses new ones, and just about kills any possible REAL imaginative story line. After all this surreal bulls**t, where he wakes up and its not real, where he doesn't know whats going on, where nothing happens as he expects(the architect), after all that, they let the FINALE go as unimaginative as possible. i mean honestly, who here who saw it can say that they weren't waiting, or even HOPING for an end that makes you go "HOLY S**T!!!!". i know i was...and then it ends with everyone being happy and a temporary peace, and i did go "HOLY S**T", but for the completely wrong reason!!!! Not only that but for example why was light coming out of neo's eyes and mouth in the real world when he killed smith??? they built me up SO much in the second with the introduction of the exile programs and different sides of characters, and then they smash you right down when all they do in the third is give you exactly what your expecting on a silver platter. people DON'T WANT THAT!!! people want a movie that will make them go WOW when they leave the theatre, something that they can talk about on the way home in the car. All this movie did was keep you complaining on the ways it didn't make sense. Like i said, i WAS a fan of the matrix series, but i have seriously reconsidered it now that i've seen the crap they've made it into.

[Morpheus1]

I wish that both movies were released as one 5hr Movie. They had given us too much time to hype up and build up what the second half of the movie was going to be. Maybe there could have been an intermission after reloaded, or they could have released both movies at the same time and let people decide when they want to see the second half in their own time. Either way, they had given us enough time, and a revealing enough trailer to spoil Revolutions.

We have to look at it for what it is, simply a good movie. If you would have seen it all from beginning to end without enough time to predict what was going to happen next, Revolutions would be the best part of the movie. Predictable or not, it had me on the edge of my seat more than Reloaded and the first Matrix combined. Revolutions is the king of unforgettable parts too. Can't get mad at the movie for not being what you wanted it to be, in the end it is just a good movie.

[Gamer]

Can someone explain to me why the hell all the smiths exploded? other than that i though the movie was good, except for it started a bit slow.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

when he took over neo's body, which was connected to the machines, the machines rewrote/deleted his program, and all the humans were unplugged, but the machines survived (a.k.a. the oracle, seraph, and the girl)

[The Duggler]

You people just don't get it. (except The Game and Random)

I loved it. I loved reloaded. And I loved The Matrix

The whole is perfect like random said. I couldn't give a **** what you people think.

Go watch Charlie's Angels or something.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Nitram

You people just don't get it. (except The Game and Random)

I loved it. I loved reloaded. And I loved The Matrix

The whole is perfect like random said. I couldn't give a **** what you people think.

Go watch Charlie's Angels or something.

yet oddly the ppl who like it are the ones that liked movies like charlies angles and underworld and **** like that. Matrix 3 has been getting some of the worst reviews across the board out of the entire year. the ppl who liked it are the ones siting how great the action is and blah blah. from a technical stand point. i havnt seen dialogue this bad since Star wars Ep 2.

The one person here who i can honestly say knows what he is talking about is Strangler. i dont know about the other movies he likes, but from hearing him talk about this one my 'first impression' is that he has a great taste in movies.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally Posted by Null

yet oddly the ppl who like it are the ones that liked movies like charlies angles and underworld and **** like that.

What the hell are you talking about?

I respect The Matrix, as it's religious embodiment was overshadowed by the intillectual conflicts that so many fanboys had troubled with. In the end, it was a very complex manipulation of religious tales.

Neo died for a reason, Crash. If Neo is comparable to "The One" of Christian belief, then he died rightly so.

The Matrix was a beautiful (err, well.. not at parts, heh) collaberation of science and religion. Yes, Science Fiction meets Religious (Fiction?). It was already known in the first two films how much the series had to do with religious tales. The whole cast of characters had names of religious importance... and Zion, of course, as well. When the series started, however, everyone was too interested in the new ideas; everyone was interested in the mind-numbing idea of having our minds in the captivity of an illusionary world. The Alice in Wonderland allusions made viewers feel like the real world was some magical, foreign land... and that is all.

What if, perhaps, it was not the Matrix and the real world being compared by the Alice and Wonderland allusions, but rather Science and Religion, or even our universe and the afterlife? It's possible.


Keanu Reeves had said in an interview that the brothers intended on making three movies when they made the first. They must've known what they were doing when they created the first movie... especially since you can see the Architect's TV screens right before Neo is interrogated by Smith.


The sequals were more than worthy, and more than worth my time. Charlies Angels, on the other hand, is "absolut" trash. And Underworld, I have not seen... haven't even heard much about it O_o. But, of what I've heard, a lot of people have become obsessed with Vampires and Werewolves. I accept their nonsense and dreaming, but the movie doesn't sound respectable.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

What the hell are you talking about?

I respect The Matrix, as it's religious embodiment was overshadowed by the intillectual conflicts that so many fanboys had troubled with. In the end, it was a very complex manipulation of religious tales.

Complex? More like muddled and obvious. It was like someone was beating me in the head with a wiffleball bat. I could see them doing it, but can't really feel it and I am left wondering why they are doing it at all.

In the end the Wachowski's had an excellent plot, but did not have the chops to put it together in an artful fashion, much like Underworld. Instead of taking some of the time from the overly long action sequences to build up their characters are allow the story to further the plot, they preferred to rely on effects and action to sell tickets and then proceed to "tell" you the story in long, convoluted monologues that attempted to exchange vocabulary for inspiration. The first rule in any creative field is that you should "show" your audience your inspiration, and not "tell" them. You can tell me that Neo and Trinity are in love, but you can't make me believe it by just telling me and you sure as hell can't make me care by having them kiss a lot.

In the end the Matrix 2 and 3 illustrated why some writer/directors NEED the support system that studios can provide. There was no one to keep them in check. The Wachowski brothers became lost in their own universe and with no one to bring them back, they only served to babble to their own egos.

If you like the this movie, thats fine. There are plenty of bad movies that a lot of people like. You may like this movie, but do not mistake it for good cinema and surely not art.

You want an incredibly well put together trilogy of epic films? Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson is a friggin' genius. He mixes CG, forced perspective and splices together endless miniatures for one purpose... to SUPPORT THE STORY, not replace it. He understands that for us the audeince to care about the characters in the film, we must first get to know them. We must feel loss when they fall. This is why I like his extended versions of his first film much more than the theater edition. He spends more time developing the characters.

Someone asked what movies I like: well here are my favorites no particular order:

The Seven Samurai (Kurosawa was the greatest action director ever)
Ran (pronounced Raan)
Akira
Miller's Crossing
The Lord of the Rings Series
Braveheart
Raising Arizona
The Field
Yojimbo
Unforgiven
The Quiet Man
Hard Boiled
2001: A Space Odyssey
Nosfersatu (both the original and the Werner Herzog remake)
The Prophecy
They Live (best B movie EVER)
The Shining
Seconds
American Psycho
The Manchurian Candidate

I guess I could go on, but 20 is enough.

[Yoda9864]

I thought this movie was awesome. I loved the whole trilogy in general.

It had everything I could want in a movie:

-Action
-A touch of romance
-A compelling plot (though not exactly clear)

The thing I loved the move about this movie was the fact that it made me think. What is going to happen next? Why did that just happen? How are these two things connected? I love movies that actually make you think. I can tell you that in two years, I will still remember these movies and think: how/why did that happen?

Personally, I'm not a real big fan about movies that are just so overloaded with action that you sit just sit there after the movie and say, "Well that was cool, what are we gonna do for the rest of the night?" Well, don't get me wrong, I guess I do like those kind of movies, because they are cool, but with a movie like The Matrix you leave the theatre with just a little more wonder/amazement/curiosity/religion or whatever you get out of the movie.

A lot of my friends that saw it said that they didn't really like it. I suspect that they are saying that just because it didn't end how they wanted it to, or that it didn't end answering all your questions. WELL TOO BAD!!! Get used to it! I don't wanna hear you bitch and moan about how your questions were unanswered, or how the love scenes were ghey, or how it didn't end the way you wanted to.


*OFF TOPIC*
What really bothers me is how people can say that The Lord of the Rings movies suck ass. THey are some of the best movies I have every seen. I beleive that FotR and TTT have been voted onto the IMD top ten movies of all time list.
I know a lot of people that say that they suck becuase they didn't include such-and-such scene from the book, or such-and-such character wasn't in the movie. God damnit people, the books were great and they had a lot of details. No movie, especially these, could get all of the detail out of the book into the movie. JUST LOOK past the minor omitences and just admit they are very good movies, because they are just that, great movies.


Hod Hamnit, now I'm all pissed off. I gotta get to sleep.

[Neo]

I just got back from the theater. I'm really tired so I'll chime in with my opinion later.

[The Duggler]

It's funny how people try to analyse movies like they were big shot hollywood critics, eh, strangler?

Anyways, if you would actually watch the movie, and let yourself into it, instead of looking at everything else around and behind it, you would enjoy much more.

Yes the acting is kind of dull, but I think it's fits the context perfectly. Neo and trin, knew they were going to die, so don't expect them to be all romantic and stuff.

I don't know why the 1st episode was so good. It was all the same actors after all.

[Crash]

the first lord of the rings is in my top 5 movies, but the second one is a really big dissappointment for me. of course nothing like the book, the first movie was almost identicle to the book. they added stupid things, and they removed important things