GCN Successor takes place

[Dyne]

Lol, yeah, they'll be ahead, but not far for the XBox. It was the same this gen, I guess. Well, it gave them a lead somewhat.

[GameKinG]

I think people viewed the dreamcast as more of a late, late entry to the last generation. All the people I ever talked to would compare it with N64 and PSX...

[gekko]

But all those people are fools. Think that explains enough.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by GameKinG
I think people viewed the dreamcast as more of a late, late entry to the last generation. All the people I ever talked to would compare it with N64 and PSX...

Ok then, the Sega Saturn..... Or did people view that as a late, late entry to the SNES period?

[TheGame]

They should release better hardware at the same time if possible...

I mean, release early and they make the same mistake as Sega... release late and te make the same mistake they made the last two generations. Release at the same time, and they create a whole new mistake

Either way there is a reason to complain... all I want to say is, release any time, and if you have outright better games and hardware than your competitors you will do good. I would like them to try Sega's angle though. I know way too many people who would have purchased a DC before Ps2 was released is one more developer made games for it.... EA.

If they get out the gate first and have the best version of this yearly best-seller (Madden) people won't wait for Sony. If they come out of the gate with the same line-up as GCN, just with the time advantage, I think they would give Sony a much bigger run. GCN had a good launch, but games like Madden and THPS don't have the same effect when they aren't exclusive for a year

-EDIT-

Just as a late thought for ya'lls, when ou release late (like Xbox/GCN) you have to worry about exclusive games to carry you, release early and every game you have 1st-3rd party is exclusive. Get a high selling third party game out the gates (Like Ps2 with Tekken and Madden and Ridge Racer) and the crowd will follow.

[stonecold316]

this is great news! I hope Nintendo kicks Sony's @ss in the new generation!

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by stonecold316
this is great news! I hope Nintendo kicks Sony's @ss in the new generation!

good for you, sport!

[D-realJos]

I too am disappointed at the likely short life-cycle. We're not the only ones, believe me. Knowing Nintendo, they would have loved to stick it out much longer and milk GameCube for all it's worth.

However, if the competition is so dead-set on engaging in next-generation activities(some already courting developers with their vision of hardware capability, and features), what the hell is Nintendo to do?

Act like the competition is going to wait on them? Give them a huge headstart? Give thrid-party more incentive to "abadon" them? Start software development late? Let the competition mold the minds of the potential "GCN2" buyers and gain overwhelming consumer confidence? Basically, making all the same moves that got them in the situation they are in now?

Come on! It's all unfortunate(short cycle), but you gotta do what ya gotta do.

PS: I hope the industry doesn't keep this up(pushing for next level of hardware, and not giving the current gen enough time to hit their true potential). Everyone is so anxious to take hardware to the next level -- that's not saying it's a bad thing -- but meanwhile, content isn't advancing near as fast.

The greater the push for new hardware is, the less time content has to evolve. On the bright side, the sooner the industry hits that ultimate level of hardware capability, the sooner they'll have NO CHOICE but to focus on content in order to capture a gamer's attention. A point where developers will be able to say, "Ok, we've got all the capabilitily we need, let's just kick back and make the best games we can." But, until that time comes, you'll have to put up with these short generation cycles, puntuated mainly by huge graphical leaps and small content jumps.

[TheGame]

Stonecold 3:16, fix your sig... the rules are in a sticky thread in the general forum.

[Perfect Stu]

I don't see how console lifespans are that much shorter these days.

2-generation leaps:

Then: NES (1985) - N64 (1996) 11 years
Now: PSone (1995) - PS3 (all signs point to 2006) 11 years

[Gamer]

I think that Nintendo is being pushed into releasing the next gen console quickly, as to not lost sales to sony, i mean, look at what happened this time around, sony released a year earlier, and nintendo get a 8th of the sales...same with microsoft, therefore, this time they want to right their wrongs and release b4 the competition thus granting them a head start on sales, and a head start on everything.

[D-realJos]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
I don't see how console lifespans are that much shorter these days.

2-generation leaps:

Then: NES (1985) - N64 (1996) 11 years
Now: PSone (1995) - PS3 (all signs point to 2006) 11 years

You gotta take a lot more into account.

As technology gets more and more sophisticated, the developement cycle of software(the engines that run them and the will to push the envelope) is extended. Some of today's major/ambitous projects are in development for well over 3 years. That says a lot! :eek:

So, what you're seeing is that -- even if your looking from the perspective that the console lifespans are somewhat stable -- development cycles are getting longer and longer, YET, the console lifespan isn't getting any longer(I personally believe they're getting shorter).

[Cyrax9]

I persoanlly tink SOny has gotten cokcy with the PSX and they're going to release in last palce this time which is the same msitake nintendo amde oon the N64,m god for the big N because I want the release to go like this:

1. Xbox 2
2. GCN II
3. PS3

Ok why XBox2 beofre GCN2?

Because as we';ve seenw ith SOny, the first of the enxt-gen laways ahs bugs, let m$ work out the bugs for NIntendo, let the Big N make their release adn ahve sony make the same mistake NIntendo did, I just don't want NIntendo to become the enxt Sega, relasing tooe arly and eventullay droping the COnolse biz.

[DeathsHand]

I don't think Sony WANTS or plans to release PS3 after Xbox2 and NGC2... It might turn out that way, but I doubt it would just be from cockiness...

But who knows... Microsoft hasn't said when they are planning to release Xbox2, have they? And Sony hasn't exactly said a date for them have they? And as someone else said, Nintendo's console could always be delayed...

Yep...

[Jason1]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Nintendo's console could always be delayed...

Yep...

Could be delayed? Isnt that almost a scientific fact?